# Silly poll on newspaper names and credibility.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silly-poll-on-newspaper-names-and-credibility/214627>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 22, 2003, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silly-poll-on-newspaper-names-and-credibility/214627 "2003-11-22T05:23:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silly-poll-on-newspaper-names-and-credibility/214627/1 "2003-11-22T05:23:51Z")

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**Times  
Post  
News  
Tribune  
Journal**

Put your locality in front of one of these words and get a local daily newspaper. In your town, which word describes the rag, the workman and the elite?

To me _Times_ is “the pape of record”, _News_ is the paper for the unwashed masses and _Post_ means crap. What about where you are?

P.S. My locality is New York.

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**Author:** ![racinchikki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@racinchikki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racinchikki)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silly-poll-on-newspaper-names-and-credibility/214627/2 "2003-11-22T05:45:24Z")

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Ours is the News-Journal. It’s the only one… I’ve never lived in a city big enough to have two papers.

The N-J used to be the Morning News and - I think the Daily Journal. Might have been Evening Journal. I forget. But that was long before my time.

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**Author:** ![Gunslinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gunslinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gunslinger)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silly-poll-on-newspaper-names-and-credibility/214627/3 "2003-11-22T07:54:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by racinchikki \*  
> \*\*The N-J used to be the Morning News and - I think the Daily Journal. Might have been Evening Journal. I forget. But that was long before my time. \*\*

Daily News and Morning Journal, I think (I work there, and can’t keep it straight!). Definitely Daily and Morning, anyway. They went to one edition per day in the early '90s, IIRC.

A nearby town has the Jimplecute (it’s an acronym: Join In Manufacturing and a bunch of other crap I can’t remember), which doesn’t exactly carry the same impact as “Times”…

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**Author:** ![racinchikki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@racinchikki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racinchikki)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silly-poll-on-newspaper-names-and-credibility/214627/4 "2003-11-22T08:03:26Z")

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The early '90s is still well before my time of knowing this town even existed.

It’s Join Industry, Manufacturing, Planting, Labor, Energy Capital (in) Unity Together Everlasting.

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**Author:** ![sirtonyh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@sirtonyh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sirtonyh)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silly-poll-on-newspaper-names-and-credibility/214627/5 "2003-11-22T14:40:53Z")

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Well, I’m in the UK for the time being and …

Times - Very good. Has news.  
Post/News/Tribune - Don’t exists  
Journal - Wall St. Also very good. Has relevant news.

If visiting the UK, avoid anything involving the following words  
Sun  
Mirror  
Star  
Sport

All of these are comics.

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**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silly-poll-on-newspaper-names-and-credibility/214627/6 "2003-11-22T15:07:40Z")

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Hmm, we have none of those. We’ve got  
**Advertiser**  
**Star-Bulletin**

Neither has an especially confidence inspiring name and neither is anything to jump for joy over when it comes to content. In fact despite the fact that they’re competing newspapers up until recently they shared a printing press. Shame really. Both newspapers began back in the Kingdom days and should have quite the legacy.

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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silly-poll-on-newspaper-names-and-credibility/214627/7 "2003-11-22T15:23:42Z")

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I’m in the DC area. The **Post** is top dog in this town. Actually, I work for the **Journal** and we’re pretty good for classified ads and suburban school sports scores.

Unfortunately, there’s no correlation between the respectability of a paper and the staidness of its name. After all, one of the most respected news sources in the country is the **Christian Science Monitor** , which implies (but doesn’t deliver) great wackiness.

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**Author:** ![misstee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@misstee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/misstee)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silly-poll-on-newspaper-names-and-credibility/214627/8 "2003-11-22T15:27:16Z")

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We have a Herald.  
I love living in a small community. The paper here report when kids’ bikes are taken and when they are returned.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silly-poll-on-newspaper-names-and-credibility/214627/9 "2003-11-22T15:42:42Z")

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I thought you were going to ask about names for newspapers that you can’t take seriously – my nomination would be the Sacramento **Bee** , which, for all I know, is a fine paper.

Here in Philly we have the **Inquirer** (morning, elite) and the **Daily News** (afternoon, tabloid size, working class). They are both owned by the same company (Gannet).

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silly-poll-on-newspaper-names-and-credibility/214627/10 "2003-11-22T15:44:18Z")

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Hmm, **Krockodil** , I notice you don’t mention the Washington **Times** …

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**Author:** ![Bambi\_Hassenpfeffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Bambi\_Hassenpfeffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bambi_Hassenpfeffer)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silly-poll-on-newspaper-names-and-credibility/214627/11 "2003-11-22T17:53:35Z")

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St Petersburg Times – regionally well-respected, all-around excellent newspaper. Largest circulation in the state. Slightly left-leaning. Anywhere you live in the area, they have regional editions.

And across the Bay:

Tampa Tribune – I’m not really fond of this one. Less well-regarded and a smaller circulation. More right-tilted than left. But, if you live in Tampa, you probably read this one.

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silly-poll-on-newspaper-names-and-credibility/214627/12 "2003-11-22T18:03:40Z")

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Yeah, it kinda depends where you are. The New York Post? Rag. Washington Post? Respectable.

Here in Chicago, both papers are well-regarded (just depends on what side of town you live), but I think we can all agree that the Sun-Times is not as well-regarded as the Trib. You can usually tell when you go into a city which paper is which - the broadsheet paper is the important one and the tabloid one is the rag. Almost never fails. Same goes for the morning vs. afternoon thing. Morning is usually the more reputable.

As for names, when looking at publications in various markets, I generally avoid two words: Advertiser and Pennysaver. With some exceptions, the majority of these publications are free ones that get tossed on your lawn and rot out in the rain. I don’t recommend those to retail clients.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silly-poll-on-newspaper-names-and-credibility/214627/13 "2003-11-22T18:24:16Z")

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The Sun-Times tends to skew a little more liberal/populist, and is more likely to have local big news items on the front page, especially as the big headline. The Tribune is more conservative generally, and tends to focus more on national news as the big headline on the front page.

There’s at least one other major Chicago newspaper that’s daily or close - the Defender, I think? Tends to focus on issues affecting the African-American community here, IIRC.

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silly-poll-on-newspaper-names-and-credibility/214627/14 "2003-11-22T21:32:26Z")

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Yeah, there is also the Defender.

We could also include La Raza, the major latino publication in the market. I don’t know much about the content, as I’ve only worked in advertising and circulation, so I can’t comment on the editorial.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Babbington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Mr.Babbington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Babbington)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silly-poll-on-newspaper-names-and-credibility/214627/15 "2003-11-22T22:06:01Z")

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We have the Minneapolis Star-Tribune and the St. Paul Pioneer Press. They are both pretty much rags, but the Star-Tribune leans left, and the Pioneer Press leans right. I read the Star-Tribune for news, and the Pioneer Press for the arts reviews. For my money, Chris Hewitt of the Pioneer Press is one of the best movie reviewers I have ever read. Also, the Pioneer Press is only a quarter, where the Star-Tribune is fifty cents. If I had to pick the more respectable paper, I’d have to say it was the Star-Tribune.

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**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2003, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silly-poll-on-newspaper-names-and-credibility/214627/16 "2003-11-23T01:14:02Z")

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Hey, **twickster** , I read the **Bee**. One of the finer papers in this country. Editorially to the left, and the only game in town since the (editorially to the right) **Union** went out of business in 1994.

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**Author:** ![Caesar\_s\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/73ab20/32.png) [@Caesar\_s\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caesar_s_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2003, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silly-poll-on-newspaper-names-and-credibility/214627/17 "2003-11-23T01:47:37Z")

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Independent is the more reliable one.

News is the less reputable and more slanted (in all different directions according to the reporter).

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**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2003, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silly-poll-on-newspaper-names-and-credibility/214627/18 "2003-11-23T04:03:24Z")

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In Albuquerque, we have the **Journal** in the morning and the **Tribune** in the afternoon. True to form, the morning paper tends to be more serious and less sensational, but the afternoon one has better comics.

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**Author:** ![hermann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b487fb/32.png) [@hermann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hermann)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2003, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silly-poll-on-newspaper-names-and-credibility/214627/19 "2003-11-23T04:40:17Z")

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I used to read the Seed when I lived in Chicago. Great paper, long ago.

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2003, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silly-poll-on-newspaper-names-and-credibility/214627/20 "2003-11-23T06:21:52Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by InternetLegend \*  
> \*\*In Albuquerque, we have the **Journal** in the morning and the **Tribune** in the afternoon. True to form, the morning paper tends to be more serious and less sensational, but the afternoon one has better comics. \*\*

It stuff like this where the people who own the papers know what they’re doing - they’re owned by the same people. If you want to advertise in one, you have to do both. In fact, it took me forever to realize there are two editions - I thought it was one paper called the Albuquerque Journal/Tribune.

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