# Sim City? No thanks, give me Cities: Skyline! New City building Sim from Paradox!
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sim-city-no-thanks-give-me-cities-skyline-new-city-building-sim-from-paradox/714129
**Category:** The Game Room
**Created:** [March 3, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sim-city-no-thanks-give-me-cities-skyline-new-city-building-sim-from-paradox/714129 "2015-03-03T20:14:11Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2015, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sim-city-no-thanks-give-me-cities-skyline-new-city-building-sim-from-paradox/714129/21 "2015-03-05T16:43:51Z")
> [@Turble](#):
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> I watched a few different streamers for a couple hours yesterday – no major bugs or problems and they all really liked the game. It seems they didn’t just give the game to paid reviewers who always give good reviews – they gave it to popular streamers who would share their actual experience with the game live for all to see.
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> Interesting side note: Maxis, the developer of SimCity has shut down.
EA sucks butt.
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2015, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sim-city-no-thanks-give-me-cities-skyline-new-city-building-sim-from-paradox/714129/22 "2015-03-05T16:49:27Z")
> [@Turble](#):
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> Interesting side note: Maxis, the developer of SimCity has shut down.
Not completely:
> [@Maxis is no more](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maxis-is-no-more/714238/5):
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> EA has shut down one of the Maxis studios. It’s the main one, and the one behind SimCity, but there are still other Maxis studios. The Sims will continue to be developed under the Maxis brand. Besides, Maxis has been under the wing of EA for almost two decades.
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### Author:  [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2015, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sim-city-no-thanks-give-me-cities-skyline-new-city-building-sim-from-paradox/714129/23 "2015-03-05T19:14:39Z")
The hype for this game is incredible. It’s currently the top seller on Steam, even after every Youtuber worth their salt has warned everyone against pre-ordering. Maxis/EA really, really dropped the ball with SimCity.
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### Author:  [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2015, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sim-city-no-thanks-give-me-cities-skyline-new-city-building-sim-from-paradox/714129/24 "2015-03-05T20:32:33Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#):
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> It’s currently the top seller on Steam, even after every Youtuber worth their salt has warned everyone against pre-ordering.
I haven’t really been keeping up, so could you expand on this? Is it just general “pre-ordering is a bad idea” talk, or are there already perceived flaws in the game?
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### Author:  [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2015, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sim-city-no-thanks-give-me-cities-skyline-new-city-building-sim-from-paradox/714129/25 "2015-03-05T20:52:09Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> I haven’t really been keeping up, so could you expand on this? Is it just general “pre-ordering is a bad idea” talk, or are there already perceived flaws in the game?
It’s more a general admonition not to pre-order anything, ever. The biggest complaint I’ve seen is about “Chirpy” the bird icon that pops up when the game wants to notify you about certain events. If you want, you can already watch pre-release gameplay for yourself both on Youtube and [Twitch.tv](http://Twitch.tv)
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### Author:  [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2015, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sim-city-no-thanks-give-me-cities-skyline-new-city-building-sim-from-paradox/714129/26 "2015-03-05T21:15:49Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#):
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> It’s more a general admonition not to pre-order anything, ever. The biggest complaint I’ve seen is about “Chirpy” the bird icon that pops up when the game wants to notify you about certain events. If you want, you can already watch pre-release gameplay for yourself both on Youtube and [Twitch.tv](http://Twitch.tv)
Yeah, chirpy is the main complaint right now - which pretty much means this game is awesome-sauce if that’s the worst thing. And the devs have been listening because they actually updated the mod tools today to include API calls that allow you to move him or completely remove him.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see him moved to the lower right corner for the release version.
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### Author:  [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2015, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sim-city-no-thanks-give-me-cities-skyline-new-city-building-sim-from-paradox/714129/27 "2015-03-05T21:23:20Z")
I’ll be watching early reviews on this pretty closely, and if they’re good will likely purchase within the first week. The lack of a pre-order discount on Steam means that waiting is no big deal.
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### Author:  [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2015, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sim-city-no-thanks-give-me-cities-skyline-new-city-building-sim-from-paradox/714129/28 "2015-03-05T21:39:15Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> I’ll be watching early reviews on this pretty closely, and if they’re good will likely purchase within the first week. The lack of a pre-order discount on Steam means that waiting is no big deal.
GMG has the game in their VIP section for $20.
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### Author:  [@Turble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turble)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2015, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sim-city-no-thanks-give-me-cities-skyline-new-city-building-sim-from-paradox/714129/29 "2015-03-05T22:15:51Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> I haven’t really been keeping up, so could you expand on this? Is it just general “pre-ordering is a bad idea” talk, or are there already perceived flaws in the game?
Quill specifically stated that he was talking about “pre-ordering is a bad idea” in general and not about this particular game or company.
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### Author:  [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2015, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sim-city-no-thanks-give-me-cities-skyline-new-city-building-sim-from-paradox/714129/30 "2015-03-05T22:54:46Z")
> [@Kinthalis](#):
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> GMG has the game in their VIP section for $20.
Or $18 from Nuuvem. (actually, GMG shows as $22 in the VIP section and Nuuvem is $18.70)
I don’t see the “deluxe edition” being worth another ten bucks for the landmark-style extra buildings though. I don’t really want the Eiffel Tower in my town anyway.
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### Author:  [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2015, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sim-city-no-thanks-give-me-cities-skyline-new-city-building-sim-from-paradox/714129/31 "2015-03-05T23:04:06Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> Interesting. The last cities I played (XL 2011) felt kind of… sterile to me. Seems like they’re trying to fix that, which I approve of. I’ll give this one a closer look.
I like how this game looks very similar visually to SimCity 4. I agree with you that CitiesXL felt very sterile.
[Good timing as it would seem that EA is shutting down Maxis, the creators of SimCity.](http://news.softpedia.com/news/Maxis-Shut-Down-by-Electronic-Arts-SimCity-and-The-Sims-Moving-to-New-Studios-474893.shtml)
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### Author:  [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2015, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sim-city-no-thanks-give-me-cities-skyline-new-city-building-sim-from-paradox/714129/32 "2015-03-05T23:26:37Z")
> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Or $18 from Nuuvem. (actually, GMG shows as $22 in the VIP section and Nuuvem is $18.70)
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> I don’t see the “deluxe edition” being worth another ten bucks for the landmark-style extra buildings though. I don’t really want the Eiffel Tower in my town anyway.
Anti Frenchite!
I splurged for the Deluxe. Wanted to support the devs/publisher and I do want me some statue of liberties!
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2015, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sim-city-no-thanks-give-me-cities-skyline-new-city-building-sim-from-paradox/714129/33 "2015-03-05T23:35:09Z")
> [@msmith537](#):
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> [Good timing as it would seem that EA is shutting down Maxis, the creators of SimCity.](http://news.softpedia.com/news/Maxis-Shut-Down-by-Electronic-Arts-SimCity-and-The-Sims-Moving-to-New-Studios-474893.shtml)
See post #22. 🙂
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### Author:  [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2015, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sim-city-no-thanks-give-me-cities-skyline-new-city-building-sim-from-paradox/714129/34 "2015-03-05T23:38:41Z")
I’ve not played any simulation games in years, but I watched the video review and found it interesting. Considering my lack of recent experience, would I be over my head with this? Does it come with documentation explains all the little icons I saw in the video? What’s that thing at the top of the screen that looked like a fat light blue bird?
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### Author:  [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2015, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sim-city-no-thanks-give-me-cities-skyline-new-city-building-sim-from-paradox/714129/35 "2015-03-05T23:43:18Z")
> [@GaryM](#):
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> I’ve not played any simulation games in years, but I watched the video review and found it interesting. Considering my lack of recent experience, would I be over my head with this? Does it come with documentation explains all the little icons I saw in the video? What’s that thing at the top of the screen that looked like a fat light blue bird?
It’s got deep root sinto classic Sim City in terms of gameplay. I’m pretty sure you’ll have fun figuring out the ins and outs.
Here’s a link to the manual:
> **[CitiesSkylines-UserManual-v0.9.9\_new\_sys\_reqs.doc](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eQA-Cm3UGnVyEVBlobvCVwORYPfImRwVewYldfsMymA/edit)**
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> User ManualCities: Skylines Index Index Welcome to Cities: Skylines Quick Start Guide System Requirements Mouse Controls Default Key Commands General Controls Game Speed Main Menu Game Mods Starting a New Game User Interface 1) Areas ...
But the gameplay videos are more fun to watch.
The birdy in the middle is Chirpy. He tweets messages about what’s happening in the city. Some people don’t like him/the location of the message son the screen. IT looks likes you’ll be able to change where the tweets are displayed though.
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### Author:  [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)
#### Post date: [March 7, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sim-city-no-thanks-give-me-cities-skyline-new-city-building-sim-from-paradox/714129/36 "2015-03-07T18:09:25Z")
I’m trying to figure out if I have a machine capable of playing this game. The game specs tell me I need at least a 3.0GHz processor. My iMac tells me that the processor is an Intel Core i5 at 2.7 GHz. The internet tells me that that processor has a “turbo boost” speed of 3.2GHz. Does that mean it will work?
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### Author:  [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)
#### Post date: [March 7, 2015, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sim-city-no-thanks-give-me-cities-skyline-new-city-building-sim-from-paradox/714129/37 "2015-03-07T19:02:08Z")
> [@fachverwirrt](#):
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> I’m trying to figure out if I have a machine capable of playing this game. The game specs tell me I need at least a 3.0GHz processor. My iMac tells me that the processor is an Intel Core i5 at 2.7 GHz. The internet tells me that that processor has a “turbo boost” speed of 3.2GHz. Does that mean it will work?
Your i5 will be fine. They Are referencing a much older processor.
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### Author:  [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)
#### Post date: [March 9, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sim-city-no-thanks-give-me-cities-skyline-new-city-building-sim-from-paradox/714129/38 "2015-03-09T15:21:20Z")
Just one more day!!!
Man, I’ve been watching Quill18 vids on this game, and it’s just got my hype meter up into the red. From Dams that end up flooding sections of cities, to watching an individual make his commute walking, taking trains, taking busses, it’s just so cool, the level of simulation they’ve got going here. Certainly there’s much more meat in this city builder in terms of managing traffic than in any previous Sim City game I can recall.
Also, even before the game hits, there is already a mod to open up the map from the 9 squares (36 km sq.) to 32! (128 km sq) compare that to Sim City (2013’s) 4 km sq cities.
The game is also breaking records for Paradox, who say this is their most pre-ordered game to date. It’s been a Steam to seller for days now.
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### Author:  [@Anon01245](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anon01245)
#### Post date: [March 9, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sim-city-no-thanks-give-me-cities-skyline-new-city-building-sim-from-paradox/714129/39 "2015-03-09T20:04:51Z")
I am interested in this game. I hope it does not suck
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### Author:  [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)
#### Post date: [March 9, 2015, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sim-city-no-thanks-give-me-cities-skyline-new-city-building-sim-from-paradox/714129/40 "2015-03-09T21:21:04Z")
I’m stoked for this game. If it sucks I’m going to be crushed.
And, of course, Can I Run It says my computer can’t do the recommended settings.
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