# Simon and Simon episode with ninjas... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 24, 2009, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simon-and-simon-episode-with-ninjas/500814 "2009-06-24T08:14:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simon-and-simon-episode-with-ninjas/500814/1 "2009-06-24T08:14:23Z")
My mom mentioned to me today that she wanted to find an episode of **Simon and Simon** that she remembered starting out with some ghostly ninjas attacking somebody. I poked around on the web a bit, but I couldn’t find any reference to an episode with ninjas. Does anybody know what episode this could be? ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simon-and-simon-episode-with-ninjas/500814/2 "2009-06-24T13:44:27Z")
Maybe she was thinking of \*\*The Master \*\*with Lee Van Cleef and Timothy Van Patten, the dutch ninjas. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simon-and-simon-episode-with-ninjas/500814/3 "2009-06-24T14:15:32Z")
She says no, she’s never seen that show. I also found an episode of **Magnum P.I.** involving ninjas, but she knew that episode and said it isn’t what she was thinking of. She’s sure it was an episode of **Simon and Simon** that started out with some ninjas that were moving like ghosts and were almost invisible. I’ve never seen more than one or two episodes of the show, so I don’t know what it could be. I guess I could watch the first three seasons on Hulu and see if any of those fit… but that would be a big pain. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simon-and-simon-episode-with-ninjas/500814/4 "2009-06-24T14:44:23Z")
Could she be confusing it with _Crazy Like A Fox_, _Riptide_, or _Hardcastle And McCormick_, which were all interchangeably similar to _Magnum PI_ and _Simon and Simon_? ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simon-and-simon-episode-with-ninjas/500814/5 "2009-06-24T15:03:26Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > Could she be confusing it with _Crazy Like A Fox_, _Riptide_, or _Hardcastle And McCormick_, which were all interchangeably similar to _Magnum PI_ and _Simon and Simon_? What an absurd statement. _Riptide_ had a robot. Other than that, I think they all just recycled the scripts from _Hawaii Five-O_. “Book 'em, Danno.” Stranger ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simon-and-simon-episode-with-ninjas/500814/6 "2009-06-24T15:46:04Z")
Heh heh … she says she’s never seen any of those shows except **Hardcastle and McCormick** , and it wasn’t that. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simon-and-simon-episode-with-ninjas/500814/7 "2009-06-24T16:12:17Z")
I liked Simon and Simon but your mother has a better memory than I, all I can remember is the Sand Dabs/Cooler of Death episode. I still have no idea what a Sand Dab is and I was a zoology major, must be some rare San Diego species. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simon-and-simon-episode-with-ninjas/500814/8 "2009-06-24T16:27:10Z")
A Sand Dab is a kind of fish. I ate one once and it was terrible. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simon-and-simon-episode-with-ninjas/500814/9 "2009-06-24T16:27:52Z")
There’s definitely a _Magnum P.I._ with ninjas and a samurai [The Arrow that is Not Aimed](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0639729/). The samurai (played by Mako) and Thomas had to protect an ancient bowl or something. At the end, Mako slaughters 4 or so ninjas in a matter of seconds, then calmly gets on a plane with the bowl and somehow avoids facing the authorities. I do seem to remember a Simon & Simon where they find a throwing star as part of a case - IIRC correctly Rick tries throwing it at his dartboard for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simon-and-simon-episode-with-ninjas/500814/10 "2009-06-24T16:52:06Z")
> [@chorpler](#): > > My mom mentioned to me today that she wanted to find an episode of **Simon and Simon** that she remembered starting out with some ghostly ninjas attacking somebody. I poked around on the web a bit, but I couldn’t find any reference to an episode with ninjas. Does anybody know what episode this could be? Try the third season episode “Harm’s Way”. The Simons are hired for a missing person case; IIRC, the person missing uses ninja tricks to keep from being found. ---
**Author:** ![thwartme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@thwartme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thwartme)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simon-and-simon-episode-with-ninjas/500814/11 "2009-06-24T19:03:34Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > Try the third season episode “Harm’s Way”. The Simons are hired for a missing person case; IIRC, the person missing uses ninja tricks to keep from being found. Just looked that episode up on [TV.com](http://TV.com). Unfortunately, there’s not enough details in the summary to mention ninjas, but I did notice something interesting. On the left hand side of the screen, there’s something called “Episode Buzz”, which gives the ‘rank’ of the episode compared to all the other episodes of television shows listed. This particular show is listed as ranking “213,995 out of all 114,921 episodes”. Wow. Almost 100,000 ranks beyond last place. Must be pretty bad. thwartme ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simon-and-simon-episode-with-ninjas/500814/12 "2009-06-24T19:15:48Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > At the end, Mako slaughters 4 or so ninjas in a matter of seconds, then calmly gets on a plane with the bowl and somehow avoids facing the authorities. In the movie “Big Trouble in Little China”, a Chinese gang kidnaps a woman from the gate at the airport, just off the plane. Complete with knives and guns. Even at the time of the movie, I had a problem with that scenario. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simon-and-simon-episode-with-ninjas/500814/13 "2009-06-24T22:03:26Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > There’s definitely a _Magnum P.I._ with ninjas and a samurai [The Arrow that is Not Aimed](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0639729/). The samurai (played by Mako) and Thomas had to protect an ancient bowl or something. At the end, Mako slaughters 4 or so ninjas in a matter of seconds, then calmly gets on a plane with the bowl and somehow avoids facing the authorities. > > I do seem to remember a Simon & Simon where they find a throwing star as part of a case - IIRC correctly Rick tries throwing it at his dartboard for a while. Yeah, I asked my mom about the **Magnum PI** episode first, because that was pretty easily found via Google, but she immediately recognized it (they have all the seasons of **Magnum PI** on DVD and are big fans) and said no, that wasn’t it. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simon-and-simon-episode-with-ninjas/500814/14 "2009-06-24T22:16:01Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > Try the third season episode “Harm’s Way”. The Simons are hired for a missing person case; IIRC, the person missing uses ninja tricks to keep from being found. Thank goodness it’s 3rd season, since the first three seasons are all on Hulu. I’m checking it out right now. I might think she was misremembering some other show, but she’s been right about this kind of thing before – she once described an episode of **Perfect Strangers** that sounded ridiculous, with Balki dressed up like a ninja and hiding up on a shelf, then attacking Larry in their living room. I thought for sure she was confusing it with some other show, but turned out to be an accurate description of a scene in the third season episode “Karate Kids,” where Larry gets beaten up by a bully at a bar and they take karate lessons and fine-tune their skills by attacking each other in the apartment. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simon-and-simon-episode-with-ninjas/500814/15 "2009-06-24T22:40:06Z")
Well, in the middle of “Harm’s Way,” at around 19m45s on Hulu, AJ’s friend/sensei just demonstrated some kind of powder that seems to hypnotize whoever you throw it at for a few seconds, letting you appear to vanish into thin air. AJ said “Ahh! Sensei, this what ninja use?” So at least this episode does mention ninjas … ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simon-and-simon-episode-with-ninjas/500814/16 "2009-06-24T23:13:09Z")
> [@chorpler](#): > > Well, in the middle of “Harm’s Way,” at around 19m45s on Hulu, AJ’s friend/sensei just demonstrated some kind of powder that seems to hypnotize whoever you throw it at for a few seconds, letting you appear to vanish into thin air. AJ said “Ahh! Sensei, this what ninja use?” So at least this episode does mention ninjas … Yeah, and one of the previews for the episode before the credits roll shows a group of ninjas in a hallway. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simon-and-simon-episode-with-ninjas/500814/17 "2009-06-24T23:34:20Z")
Just finished watching it. It doesn’t **seem** like that was the episode she was thinking of, but I’ll have her watch it and make sure. Thanks, **Lute Skywatcher** – even if it’s not the right episode, that’s the closest I’ve come so far! ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simon-and-simon-episode-with-ninjas/500814/18 "2009-06-25T00:08:12Z")
You’re welcome and good luck. I just happened to remember the bit with the hypnotic powder but wasn’t sure which show it was. ---
**Author:** ![Number](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/number/32/242_2.png) [@Number](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Number)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simon-and-simon-episode-with-ninjas/500814/19 "2009-06-25T00:23:31Z")
Netflix Online has seasons 1-8. I don’t fancy watching all of them, but if you get clues on any more individual episodes I could check them out. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simon-and-simon-episode-with-ninjas/500814/20 "2009-06-25T03:51:13Z")
> [@Number](#): > > Netflix Online has seasons 1-8. > > I don’t fancy watching all of them, but if you get clues on any more individual episodes I could check them out. Oh, awesome. They might have a subscription to Netflix already. Does Netflix Online charge you a fee to watch each episode, or is it like their rentals, where you get unlimited rentals for a flat monthly fee? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simon-and-simon-episode-with-ninjas/500814.md?page=2)