# Simple hard drive video recorder. No @#!$ subscriptions. Exists?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-hard-drive-video-recorder-no-subscriptions-exists/238890>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [April 8, 2004, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-hard-drive-video-recorder-no-subscriptions-exists/238890 "2004-04-08T03:45:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![LemonThrower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@LemonThrower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LemonThrower)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2004, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-hard-drive-video-recorder-no-subscriptions-exists/238890/41 "2004-04-15T14:14:39Z")

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1. older tivos require a phone line instead of a broadband connection.

2. you can find used tivos on ebay with the lifetime subscription paid for close to the $300 subscription price.

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