# simple poll: Is ivan astikov full of sh\*t? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553 "2010-06-09T16:49:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![3trew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/13edae/32.png) [@3trew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3trew)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/41 "2010-06-09T19:38:54Z")
> [@Lanzy](#): > > What is the opposite of Atheist? Someone that believes in everything. I like to use “credophile”. A and E. ---
**Author:** ![Cort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/77aa72/32.png) [@Cort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cort)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/42 "2010-06-09T19:43:17Z")
I like Ivan. He cracks me up. He may be a bit mental sometimes, but who cares? He makes the boards more fun. ---
**Author:** ![Cyningablod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc29f/32.png) [@Cyningablod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyningablod)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/43 "2010-06-09T19:56:20Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > I voted for E. > > His main problem is he doesn’t take the internet as seriously as some people. Yeah, your aloof, devil-may-care maturity is what makes you lash out aggressively and childishly at others who are simply attempting to engage you in meaningful dialog. You really are a paragon of disinterested sophistication. Sheesh. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/44 "2010-06-09T19:56:37Z")
All I know is I miss **VC03**. ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/45 "2010-06-09T20:03:23Z")
No cashews or pecans, just plain nuts. ---
**Author:** ![Cyningablod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc29f/32.png) [@Cyningablod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyningablod)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/46 "2010-06-09T20:13:21Z")
So after 'bout 3 hours, the count stands as follows (excluding my own vote, and **ivan** ’s, and abstentions like those of **Autolycus** , above): 18 votes for “full of shit”, or some permutation thereof (criticisms) 8 defenses of one sort or another 4 votes for “troll” \* So, 22 negative assessments, 8 reasonably favorable votes. \*Note that votes of both “A.” and “E. troll” were not counted twice; I recorded them only as A votes. Seems that so far, 73% of us think you’re just full of it, **ivan**. Remember, [you’re the one who asked!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12555215&postcount=379) ---
**Author:** ![Cyningablod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc29f/32.png) [@Cyningablod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyningablod)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/47 "2010-06-09T20:17:23Z")
**Cautionary disclaimer:** We all know that popularity of an idea, does not its truth establish. None of this proves anything at all about **ivan astikov** , of course. But he suggested a poll on the matter, so I obliged. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/48 "2010-06-09T20:20:54Z")
8 “favourables” out of 30! I’m quite happy with that score if you’re sure that’s a representative sample? ---
**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/49 "2010-06-09T20:27:56Z")
Hey, **astikov** , remember: You said you’d fuck off if 50 of us went on record as believing you are full of fucking shit. Don’t forget that. ---
**Author:** ![Cyningablod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc29f/32.png) [@Cyningablod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyningablod)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/50 "2010-06-09T20:29:06Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > 8 “favourables” out of 30! I’m quite happy with that score if you’re sure that’s a representative sample? You’re happy with a 27% favorable review? :eek: Now I don’t know which is the more appalling: your grasp of percentages or your argumentative abilities. Re: a “representative sample”: Why don’t you post a poll on a true believer board, and when they hail you as Visionary, come back and trumpet those results here? That would be more balanced, I’m sure. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/51 "2010-06-09T20:30:23Z")
@ \*\*MTCicero \*\* Are you getting a bit excited now? Why don’t you get a banner ad and see if you can drum up support? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Happy\_Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Poster)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/52 "2010-06-09T20:44:47Z")
The irony is that most posters in this thread are proving mr astikov correct 😃 ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/53 "2010-06-09T20:49:16Z")
Full of shit? Oh yes, of course, thats quite apparent. Lords yes. A. and E. (where, coincidentally, Ivan spends a lot of saturday nights) ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/54 "2010-06-09T20:55:12Z")
> [@Cyningablod](#): > > You’re happy with a 27% favorable review? :eek: > > Now I don’t know which is the more appalling: your grasp of percentages or your argumentative abilities. > > Re: a “representative sample”: Why don’t you post a poll on a true believer board, and when they hail you as Visionary, come back and trumpet those results here? That would be more balanced, I’m sure. Compared to [these guys](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/congressional_job_approval-903.html), he should be estatic. Ain’t saying much though. Let me add another “A” to the E-peener, just to get him a little closer to those other guys. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/55 "2010-06-09T20:57:28Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > Full of shit? Oh yes, of course, thats quite apparent. Lords yes. > > A. and E. (where, coincidentally, Ivan spends a lot of saturday nights) Take that back! I’ve been once in the last 5 years, and that was on a Thursday afternoon. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/56 "2010-06-09T20:59:44Z")
> [@MTCicero](#): > > Hey, **astikov** , remember: You said you’d fuck off if 50 of us went on record as believing you are full of fucking shit. Don’t forget that. For the record despite the opinions I posted of him, I’m not advocating trying to get rid of Ivan. Indeed I wish he would engage more in his beliefs. It could make an interesting discourse if he were a little more mature. ---
**Author:** ![Cyningablod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc29f/32.png) [@Cyningablod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyningablod)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/57 "2010-06-09T21:04:00Z")
> [@PlainJain](#): > > For the record despite the opinions I posted of him, I’m not advocating trying to get rid of Ivan. Indeed I wish he would engage more in his beliefs. It could make an interesting discourse if he were a little more mature. Indeed. In reading through his pitting of **xt** (the thread referenced in my OP here), I was actually looking forward to a fascinating debate. But he wouldn’t let even _that_ happen. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/58 "2010-06-09T21:29:35Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > I just can’t understand opening a thread about something that interests you or about something you believe in and then shut out all conversation with such a heavy qualifier as having to read some book in order to take part in the discussion…particularly when the discussion is about UFO’s. Why even bother? And then on top of it act all butt-hurt and get hostile when posters take you to the mat for it. If you take someone to the mat for something, why wouldn’t they be mad at you? Is that not the point? If you wanted them to actually take it as constructive criticism, wouldn’t you actually phrase it as such? And, yes, I realize the implications of that statement. ---
**Author:** ![Busy\_Scissors](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@Busy\_Scissors](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Busy_Scissors)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/59 "2010-06-09T22:53:31Z")
eh, not really feeling it for Ivan as troll de jour. Stupid, insane? Not even close - although he does come across as uneducated. Guess things are slow and he’s filling a gap. Even his trolling seems rudimentary by the standards of past legends. Saying that, when you can get a nine page fail thread going on the basis of a one liner, plus attendant satellite thread - then I guess you know the ropes of trolling. ---
**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/60 "2010-06-09T23:05:52Z")
> [@PlainJain](#): > > For the record despite the opinions I posted of him, I’m not advocating trying to get rid of Ivan. Indeed I wish he would engage more in his beliefs. It could make an interesting discourse **if he were a little more mature**. Agreed. But the rub seems to be what I’ve bolded above. At any rate, you are quite right about the entertainment factor. So, **astikov** : You can stay. It’ll be fun to have a dancing monkey around to sort of check in on once in a while for a laugh. Carry on, good chap. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553.md?page=4)