# simple poll: Is ivan astikov full of sh\*t? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553 "2010-06-09T16:49:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/61 "2010-06-09T23:41:32Z")
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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/62 "2010-06-09T23:54:54Z")
Ivan’s not fit to lift the jockstrap of the legendary trolls we’ve hosted here like Wildest Bill and VCO3. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/63 "2010-06-10T00:11:39Z")
> [@Cyningablod](#): > > So after 'bout 3 hours, the count stands as follows (excluding my own vote, and **ivan** ’s, and abstentions like those of **Autolycus** , above): > > 18 votes for “full of shit”, or some permutation thereof (criticisms) > 8 defenses of one sort or another > 4 votes for “troll” \* > > So, 22 negative assessments, 8 reasonably favorable votes. > > \*Note that votes of both “A.” and “E. troll” were not counted twice; I recorded them only as A votes. > > Seems that so far, 73% of us think you’re just full of it, **ivan**. Remember, [you’re the one who asked!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12555215&postcount=379) I don’t think you’re scoring this one right… The impression Ivan has of the other thread is that he’s outdebating us by so much that a silent majority thinks he’s making fool out of everyone mocking him in that thread. So his view of what’s happening there is essentially answer D. But no one has even come close to answering D, or even the more mild C or B - there’s pretty much universal agreement that it’s A or E(troll). So yeah I’m looking at 100% unfavorable results to him as far as I can see. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/64 "2010-06-10T00:30:08Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > Ivan’s not fit to lift the jockstrap of the legendary trolls we’ve hosted here like Wildest Bill and VCO3. Maybe I’m naive but unlike the above mentioned posters up until now I thought \*\*ivan \*\* was a little slow on the uptake now and again but I’ve never thought of him as a troll. ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/65 "2010-06-10T00:43:11Z")
Who? ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/66 "2010-06-10T00:50:33Z")
That ivan is full of shit is, like ivan, a no brainer. The more interesting question is whether it is alien shit or human shit. ---
**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/67 "2010-06-10T01:26:46Z")
> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#): > > If I agree with you again, the end times will surely come. > > Regards, > A3D Its the end times, alright. I agree with Shodan on this. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn’t Ivan pretty much defend the his right to break into homes and steal things in a thread a year or so ago about gun ownership? I could be wrong, and if I am, sorry. If I’m not, he’s a frakking idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/68 "2010-06-10T01:42:02Z")
I abstain. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/69 "2010-06-10T03:06:01Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > If you take someone to the mat for something, why wouldn’t they be mad at you? Is that not the point? If you wanted them to actually take it as constructive criticism, wouldn’t you actually phrase it as such? > > And, yes, I realize the implications of that statement. Eh, bullshit under this particular scenario. Ivan was inviting it, and trying to condemn it with the other hand. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/70 "2010-06-10T03:16:27Z")
> [@MTCicero](#): > > The motherfucker’s so full of shit, he sweats the Hershey squirts. > > To wit, I emphatically choose option A. EPIC!!! and, I vote for A. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/71 "2010-06-10T03:19:46Z")
> [@Jolly\_Roger](#): > > Its the end times, alright. I agree with Shodan on this. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn’t Ivan pretty much defend the his right to break into homes and steal things in a thread a year or so ago about gun ownership? I could be wrong, and if I am, sorry. If I’m not, he’s a frakking idiot. I think it was, and some of us were EVIL, because we defended our right to blow him away if it were our house. hypothetically speaking only, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/72 "2010-06-10T04:50:43Z")
Certainly A, probably a bit of E, I’ve given up caring which, honestly. ---
**Author:** ![flyboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4da419/32.png) [@flyboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flyboy)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/73 "2010-06-10T05:03:39Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > A) Yes, ivan does for bullshit what Stonehenge did, for rocks. > E) Both stupid and a troll. Thirded. Or is it fourthed? Or fifthed? Whatever. Ditto. He’s also a blatant jerk, and I sincerely hope one of these days he leaves of his own free will, or gets kicked out. The latter, of course, would be much better. ---
**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/74 "2010-06-10T06:14:04Z")
That thread had me going up until post #159 were **A Monkey With a Gun** called him out. Dumbass then in post #161 fessed up. Full of shit?- yes ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/75 "2010-06-10T06:16:35Z")
I personally prefer **Vinyl Turnip** to \*\*Ivan \*\*in their brands of specialist humor, but I too will abstain from the vote as I don’t really dislike the guy, and I’ve nothing against him but then again, I don’t really tend to hang out too much in the Pit… Is \*\*Ivan \*\*no longer doing his Pit-Cop routine anymore though? That one got some mileage. ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/76 "2010-06-10T06:36:11Z")
Until his recent pitting thread, I didn’t think of him as particularly full of shit - certainly no more than a number of other posters who shall remain nameless. > [@ToeJam](#): > > Is \*\*Ivan \*\*no longer doing his Pit-Cop routine anymore though? That one got some mileage. You’re thinking of **ivn1188** , who in addition to being the self-appointed Pit Cop responds to any criticism with infantile name-calling and proclamations of his superiority. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/77 "2010-06-10T07:12:46Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > E. He is a troll. > > Regards, > Shodan Yes. > [@Autolycus](#): > > All I know is I miss **VC03**. Me too. I never thought VCO3 was a troll. I wish he was back here. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/78 "2010-06-10T10:11:55Z")
Ok, a running tally of the responses. I counted the double responses (both A and E) under both categories. By my count, there were 14 responses of A and 14 responses of E. Nothing under E (other) was positive. The closest thing to a positive was “E. A very intelligent and egotistical troll. An attention whore who knows how to stay in his spotlight by trolling just enough to not cross the line.” - but is someone calling him a troll (rather than, as Ivan claims, intellectually superior to all of us and constantly scoring points with the unnamed neutrals) a compliment? Other responses for E included troll fecal feculent foul grimy gross etc Both stupid and a troll. and a troll He’s also a blatant jerk, and I sincerely hope one of these days he leaves of his own free will, or gets kicked out. The latter, of course, would be much better. Often these reasons were given essentially a +1 from other posters. Clearly Ivan was under the impression that at least some people thought of him as B, C, or D, right? And so far no one has gotten close to that. So I think **Cyanablod’s** original assessment is way too generous, unless you count the people calling him a troll as being defenders, and even then the numbers are off a bit. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/79 "2010-06-10T10:20:24Z")
Can I have a summary from someone a little less biased? Regardless of your accuracy, it seems you have fallen a little short of the 50 “anti-ivan” supporters I challenged **MJCicero** to drum up. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553/80 "2010-06-10T10:29:19Z")
E. Most of the time I consider his posts benign whether I agree with them or not. In those threads in which he becomes a shit-geyser I’m usually able to tune him out, which is not always the case with other board members. So - sometimes he’s okay, and when he’s not okay it doesn’t bother me much. Fulsome praise indeed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-poll-is-ivan-astikov-full-of-sh-t/542553.md?page=5)