# Simple question, Hairy Porn or Shaved Porn ? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 18, 2011, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033 "2011-10-18T13:40:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/61 "2011-10-18T23:54:40Z")
Ideally I prefer a woman hairless from her nose to her toes in real life and porn, but I am not going to complain if it is otherwise. It looks no more prepubescent than if I shave my face. People who argue that it does remind me of the anti-gay in the closet preachers. IMO, hairy=masculine and no hair=feminine. **Diosa** ,I’ve fought the vulva vs. vagina war before in the name of fighting ignorance, but I’ve all but given up now. Now, I encourage using the word pussy because it can apply to all the girly bits down there. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/62 "2011-10-18T23:55:38Z")
Shaved. There seems to be a trend in porn moving away from shaved. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/63 "2011-10-19T00:09:56Z")
> [@Invisible\_Chimp](#): > > It looks no more prepubescent than if I shave my face. Hey now. Women shaving because it feels better (for both parties) is one thing, but I’ll be damned if I’m associated with face-shavers. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/64 "2011-10-19T00:11:12Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Her vagina, on the other hand, looks like that of a prepubescent girl. It would, in fact, meet the very definition of looking “prepubescent”. Having big boobs or whatever doesn’t change that. Then step back from her vagina and take a look at the rest of the woman. ---
**Author:** ![Ura-Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Ura-Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ura-Maru)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/65 "2011-10-19T00:51:55Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Her vagina, on the other hand, looks like that of a prepubescent girl. It would, in fact, meet the very definition of looking “prepubescent”. Having big boobs or whatever doesn’t change that. After having gone though the effort of putting my weapons on the table and explaining how we shouldn’t fight do you have to say something like that? It’s like the old Far Side cartoon of a chicken tied to a balloon floating through a samurai bar. Do you REALIZE how difficult it is to resist responding with something like ‘Well, I’m not the expert on the vaginas of prepubecent girls you’re claiming to be, but . . .’ Wouldn’t that be douchey? Yes it would. As would the other potential responses I floated before. I’m trying to avoid that. So, another approach. I am willing to accept that you don’t like looking at shaved bits because you associate them with children. That’s fine. The thing is, you are making statements that are accusing (checking post) Cryptic C62, Procrustus, Lobohan, DiosaBellissima, All of DiosaBellissima’s partners, Trom, polar bear, Little Nemo, MrDibble, River Hippie, AClockworkMelon, Carmady, silenus, Invisible Chimp and Yookeroo of either being pedophiles or trying to enable them. Also bup and myself, who answered ‘both.’ Also, everyone who has ever ‘made use’ of a single piece of mainstream commercial porn produced since 1991. Which includes, within a standard 7.5% margin of error, every single person in the United States. (Exaggeration for comic effect. But not much) Ignoring for the moment the fact this is considerably more insulting than my snark of opportunity, because I was being a wiseass while you actually mean it. Are you willing to consider that at least SOME of those people (again, those people in this case are a very large percentage of the country and the world) are not actively going for/seeking out the Lolitia look? And if you’re willing to accept that, are you willing to consider that MAYBE it’s not an appropriate thing to (very strongly) imply? And thus, perhaps that ‘I don’t like it’ is a better way to phrase it than ‘I don’t like it because I’m not a pedophile?’ I also don’t know if you’re correct. Hair aside, my (male) bits changed considerably between 12 and 16, I’d be surprised if there was no change whatsoever in the female equivalent. – I will actually agree about the vagina/vulva thing. It always seemed to me that, while technically correct, it was akin to insisting on ‘buttocks’ instead of ‘ass.’ Nor do I agree with the commonly associated claim that it ‘sounds sexier.’ I mean, it would if it was said in a french accent, but so would anything else. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/66 "2011-10-19T01:06:07Z")
> [@Ura-Maru](#): > > The thing is, you are making statements that are accusing (checking post) Cryptic C62, Procrustus, Lobohan, DiosaBellissima, All of DiosaBellissima’s partners, Trom, polar bear, Little Nemo, MrDibble, River Hippie, AClockworkMelon, Carmady, silenus, Invisible Chimp and Yookeroo of either being pedophiles or trying to enable them. I never once said anyone was, wanted to be or was trying to enable pedophiles. But that seems to be the nuclear option in this thread to try and bend people to your (their) opinion. It’s simple: You’re removing the hair that grew there during puberty to return the area to its prepubescent state. If this simple fact makes people start swinging the “OMG you claimed I was a PEDOPHILE!!” club, whatever. That’s your hang-up. Hell, to go on something said before, I shave to return my face to its prepubescent state. You know, as in back before I needed to shave. Granted other facial changes keep me from looking like a nine year old but I wouldn’t start throwing a hissy fit over someone stating the basic fact of it. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/67 "2011-10-19T01:10:53Z")
> [@Ura-Maru](#): > > Hair aside, my (male) bits changed considerably between 12 and 16, I’d be surprised if there was no change whatsoever in the female equivalent. In addition to the hair, parts of the vulva/pussy/whatever change during puberty in shape, size, and color. Sometimes a little bit, sometimes dramatically. Same thing with pregnancy and any other hormonal upheaval. So, I’m willing to bet that even bald as a cue ball, my crotch does not look the same way it did when I was 11. But yes, I do intentionally remove the hair that started growing there at puberty, much like I do the rest of my body hair. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/68 "2011-10-19T01:11:11Z")
> [@spooje](#): > > I thought this thread **was** a Harry Potter poll at first. Seriously. Indeed, I read the title as “Harry Potter or Shaved Porn?”, and I wondered why those were my only two choices. ---
**Author:** ![Ura-Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Ura-Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ura-Maru)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/69 "2011-10-19T01:51:23Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > I never once said anyone was, wanted to be or was trying to enable pedophiles. But that seems to be the nuclear option in this thread to try and bend people to your (their) opinion. > > It’s simple: You’re removing the hair that grew there during puberty to return the area to its prepubescent state. If this simple fact makes people start swinging the “OMG you claimed I was a PEDOPHILE!!” club, whatever. That’s your hang-up. > > Hell, to go on something said before, I shave to return my face to its prepubescent state. You know, as in back before I needed to shave. Granted other facial changes keep me from looking like a nine year old but I wouldn’t start throwing a hissy fit over someone stating the basic fact of it. So, you’re saying you **weren’t** trying to imply anything? You just randomly brought up the prepubescent thing, and it has no more significance than shaving your face? Just because you believe it to be factually correct, and for some reason vital to point out? If that is the case, the I suppose the first part of my response was unnecessary. This is just a suggestion, but if you’re not trying to imply something, and multiple people repeatedly assume that you are, (which the quoted post indicates has happened) you might want to reconsider the specific language you’re using. – On an unrelated note, I personally dislike the term ‘hissy fit.’ Not as bad as ‘butthurt’, but that doesn’t make it right. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/70 "2011-10-19T02:37:20Z")
> [@Ura-Maru](#): > > You just randomly brought up the prepubescent thing Well, no. Hence me quoting something and then responding to it. In a thread about shaved bits. I’ve no clue where you got “randomly” from. > [@](#): > > On an unrelated note, I personally dislike the term ‘hissy fit.’ I personally dislike people throwing hissy fits over stuff I never said and accusing me of calling them “pedophiles” in a lame attempt to shame me into not pointing out the obvious: you’re removing your pubic hair, the most obvious genital trait of puberty. But I guess we all have our crosses to bear. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/71 "2011-10-19T03:03:19Z")
I’m pretty convinced that the paucity of bush is a huge factor in the success of my little porno corner of the web. (specializing in vintage porn, for those unfamiliar. No, I can’t give the name of course!) A lot of my members have mentioned it. ---
**Author:** ![Ura-Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Ura-Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ura-Maru)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/72 "2011-10-19T03:22:53Z")
Shrug. I don’t believe I threw a hissy fit, though I can’t be certain as I’m not exactly sure what that entails. Nor do I think that there is an unreasonable gap between insisting ‘\ vagina looks like that of a prepubecent girl’ and the implication that people who enjoy looking at \'s vagina might enjoy looking at prepubecent girls, even if that wasn’t your intent. – So the peace tribadism is out, then? Ah, well. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/73 "2011-10-19T03:25:34Z")
We’re not allowed to say “vagina”. Brings out the Anatomy Police. ---
**Author:** ![Ura-Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Ura-Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ura-Maru)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/74 "2011-10-19T03:32:57Z")
YOU may not be allowed to say vagina. _ **I** _ have V-Word privileges. – The paperwork is notarized and everything. ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/75 "2011-10-19T04:31:00Z")
\*I want it long, straight, curly, fuzzy Snaggy, shaggy, ratty, matty Oily, greasy, fleecy Shining, gleaming, streaming Flaxen, waxen Knotted, polka-dotted Twisted, beaded, braided Powdered, flowered, and confettied Bangled, tangled, spangled, and spaghettied! \*If you have to ask, \*… :smack: \* ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/76 "2011-10-19T17:29:32Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > I can’t argue aesthetics with you (except to say I disagree), but it feels worse? Wha? Waxing leaves the skin smooth like silk and when it grows back, the hair is finer (so softer) and more sparse-- not prickly at all. Hell, I get laser, so it’s permanently perfectly smooth and soft there. I know that, for me, it’s annoying when my crotch gets chafed because some dude doesn’t trim his business back enough and it scratches/ irritates my skin. > > But less hygienic is always the one that gets me. How would removing all the hair that traps sweat, fluids, and god-knows-what be less hygienic? If anything, removing the hair makes it far easier to keep the area clean. Less hygienic: did you ever wonder why you have eyebrows and eyelashes? Or have you lasered them off too? On women, pubic hair helps keep dirt, lint, and various other things out of the vagina. It’s not just decorative, it’s _useful_. Maybe your hair used to trap “god-knows what”, but in my experience - quite a lot of it - while pubic hair is effective at keeping dust, lint etc out of the vag, it’s not “dirty” in the way you seem to think it is. This seems to me to be no different to the circumcised guys who imagine that an uncut penis is “dirtier” and “more prone to infection” than a cut one. No, not at all. Perhaps your lasered crotch is free from scratchiness and shaving rash, but the shaved/trimmed ones I’ve experienced are _not_. Cut hair takes months to return to a normal non-prickly state, and, frankly, if I wanted a face full of stubble, I’d kiss a guy. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/77 "2011-10-19T17:46:58Z")
I can assure you there is no _lint_ in my vagina. Goodness, the things that have to be spelled out around here. > [@Jophiel](#): > > …It’s simple: You’re removing the hair that grew there during puberty to return the area to its prepubescent state… However, your sentence implies that those who do trim and/or shave and/or wax (some of us go for the variety pack :D) do so \*\*\*\*\* in order to \*\*\*\*\* “return the area to its prepubescent state.” You are implying an intention that most, if not all, do not have. Mr. Horseshoe and I both trim and/or shave. (Plus, me. The waxing.) We do it for each other but we also BOTH do it _for ourselves._ If nothing else, until recently, my corner of the globe was having 100+ days for months on end. In those conditions, my genitalia do not need an additional sweater. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/78 "2011-10-19T17:49:17Z")
> [@purplehorseshoe](#): > > my genitalia do not need an additional sweater. That’s gonna be the name of my rock band. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/79 "2011-10-19T17:55:30Z")
Brazilian girls go for the totally off look. Which is reqired (when wearing a brazilian bikini). I’m fine ith that. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/80 "2011-10-19T17:56:50Z")
> [@Shakester](#): > > On women, pubic hair helps keep dirt, lint, and various other things out of the vagina. It’s not just decorative, it’s _useful_. IDK, my gf shaves, yet I never find dirt, lint, etc in her vagina. And I check often! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033.md?page=5)