# Simple question, Hairy Porn or Shaved Porn ? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 18, 2011, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033 "2011-10-18T13:40:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/161 "2011-10-25T15:51:47Z")
> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#): > > **devilsknew** : > > What are you going on about? > > Am I the only one being whooshed here or is **devilsknew** being serious? I’m willing to wager that they’re being serious. **devilsknew** regularly pops into CS threads with ridiculousness like that. Frequently, the ridiculousness is in response to something I said, chastising me for being young and not understanding the realities of the world. One key example of this was the thread about[Daisy Dukes/Hot Pants](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=575801&highlight=daisy+dukes) (sorry, not wading through that whole thing again to figure out where the shenanigans start, but they’re definitely there). ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/162 "2011-10-25T16:24:17Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Does that mean you have to fuck ironically? Well, pussy \*is \*pretty mainstream. It’s not like you can say you liked pussy before it became popular, or go “yeaah, I fuck pussy, you’ve probably never heard of it”. Which only leaves enjoying it ironically. ---
**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/163 "2011-10-25T16:52:22Z")
> [@Thudlow Boink](#): > > No, my question is: Those of you who claim that shaving makes women look like little girls: Why are you so familiar with what little girls’ genitals look like? > [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > Well in the case of female posters, I bet there’s a good reason why they would know what little girls’ genitals look like. And in the case of anyone with a daughter, or a little sister, or who has done babysitting, or played “doctor” as a kid… Which covers just about everyone I think. ---
**Author:** ![Trom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@Trom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trom)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/164 "2011-10-25T17:12:52Z")
> [@divemaster](#): > > And in the case of anyone with a daughter, or a little sister, or who has done babysitting, or played “doctor” as a kid… > > Which covers just about everyone I think. Not me. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/165 "2011-10-25T17:20:23Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > I’m willing to wager that they’re being serious. **devilsknew** regularly pops into CS threads with ridiculousness like that. Frequently, the ridiculousness is in response to something I said, chastising me for being young and not understanding the realities of the world. One key example of this was the thread about[Daisy Dukes/Hot Pants](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=575801&highlight=daisy+dukes) (sorry, not wading through that whole thing again to figure out where the shenanigans start, but they’re definitely there). Wow. Thanks (he said sarcastically) for introducing me to that gem.😃 ---
**Author:** ![polar\_bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@polar\_bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/polar_bear)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/166 "2011-10-25T17:22:33Z")
> [@Hypnagogic\_Jerk](#): > > Well, you’re not American. (And neither am I.) Americans, especially younger ones, seem to be more about removing all hair. Even American men seem to be starting to shave, or at least trim, their pubic region now. But other cultures have different practices. As a counterpoint to **AClockworkMelon** , none of the women I’ve slept with (admittedly, there aren’t many of them) have been shaved. > > As for me, I prefer hairy porn, although shaved can sometimes be interesting as well. I even like unshaven armpits, which I can find but is still pretty “niche” in porn. > > Oh, and I’m also uncircumcised. That’s another practice much more prevalent in the US than in some other Western countries, and (it seems to me) something American women often expect should have been done on a man. Oh well, I guess I won’t date Americans. 😉 It is not just American, I am European and regularly get the chance to..ehh inspect the pubic area of a pretty large number of young European women and 95% is totally shaved (sometimes some stuble if it’s later in the day), the rest is trimmed. An actual bush is a rarity. A large number of men also shaves and most girls seem to appreciate that. What might be interesting to note is that the girls’ decision on pubic hair is mainly driven by the invisible hand; which indicates that a majority of European men prefer shaved genitals. As I said before in this thread, I am definitely one of them. Both for myself and for the girls. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/167 "2011-10-25T17:33:04Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Wow. Thanks (he said sarcastically) for introducing me to that gem.😃 There’s nothing like a good trainwreck to fill a boring morning at the office ;). ---
**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/168 "2011-10-25T17:40:39Z")
> [@divemaster](#): > > And in the case of anyone with a daughter, **or a little sister, or who has done babysitting** , or played “doctor” as a kid… > > Which covers just about everyone I think. (bolding mine) :dubious: None of those cover me, or a lot of other guys. The bottom line is that smooth skin feels good. If a woman doesn’t even trim, that sends the message that they don’t care about or really enjoy sex. Liking sex and wanting to maximize sensation is sexy, which makes trimming/shaving/waxing/lasering sexy. ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/169 "2011-10-25T18:54:17Z")
> [@](#): > > The bottom line is that smooth skin feels good. Stubbly, razor-bumpy skin, on the other hand… ---
**Author:** ![dhkendall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9adbd/32.png) [@dhkendall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dhkendall)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2011, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/170 "2011-11-02T01:39:14Z")
> [@Trom](#): > > Exactly. I’m a 27 year old guy. Thinking about it, the “shaved-look-reminds-me-of-a-child” attitude doesn’t even make sense. My teen years were in the 90’s and 00’s, and the hairy bush look was already gone from the pictures of naked ladies that I surely never looked at on AOL late at night. My first exposure to naked pictures of sexually mature women consisted of women with shaved/trimmed pubic hair. […] The shaved/trimmed look _is_ what I associate with adult women. > [@polar\_bear](#): > > Same here I can’t remember hair ever being ‘normal’ in images of nude women. I don’t really care whether it is totally bald or neatly trimmed, as long as there is no bush. This also goes for us guys, by the way. > [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > Bingo. I’ve never had a girlfriend who wasn’t completely shaved. I prefer the girls in my porn the same. This seems to settle it. If the OP (or any other Doper) does turn this into a poll (which I heartily second), I’d like to see it broken down by age (ie “I’m 18-30 and I prefer shaved”, etc.) Those of us like me (born 1972) that grew up with hair on their Playboy women prefer hair and don’t get why “the young kids of today” like shaved. (I’ve only been with one woman sexually - my wife, also in her 40s, also ntural - but I’d be willing to wager that most women my age are natural and most men my age prefer natural). Those born later grew up with bare porn, and probably prefer their women that way as a result. Sigmund Freud would absolutely love this thread. (This leaves me with the question of why all of a sudden one day, women started shaving it all, though, messing with what guys grew up with. Maybe it’s part of the generational rebellion?) As to what I prefer in porn, guys - it’s porn! Yeah, I do prefer porn like I prefer my women, I guess, but I ain’t turning it off if she’s bare, and I’d be willing to be anything tnat not a guy on this board will turn off their porn simply because the woman is not their preferred hairy level. > [@Carmady](#): > > (bolding mine) > > :dubious: > > None of those cover me, or a lot of other guys. > > The bottom line is that smooth skin feels good. If a woman doesn’t even trim, that sends the message that they don’t care about or really enjoy sex. Liking sex and wanting to maximize sensation is sexy, which makes trimming/shaving/waxing/lasering sexy. Generalize much, Carmady? (At the very least, you could say “if a woman doesn’t trim, that **may** send the message …”) ---
**Author:** ![Toxylon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f05b48/32.png) [@Toxylon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxylon)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/171 "2011-11-06T12:45:08Z")
Per the OP, I prefer variety in my porn, and feel that there are visually awesome shaved _and_ hairy pussies out there, as well as less-esthetic examples of both. However, IRL, I’ve come to prefer shaved pussies over hairy ones. A shaved pussy simply _feels_ better to me and to her (hugely important), and is much more pleasant to stimulate orally. While a landing strip seems like a great compromise and works really well in porn, I’ve found it is somewhat distracting up-close in real life, by making what’s left of the hair that much more prominent, compared to a fully shaven pussy. Like some others above, I tend to associate a total lack of pube grooming with a general lack of interest in sexual activities. Certainly dubious, but based on personal experience. Around here, most women in their 30’s do at least trim their pubes if not regularly wax it all off. I, a guy in my mid-thirties, heavily trim but don’t shave. It’s certainly not a youngster-only thing. Shaving or plucking pubic hair predates modern Western culture by several millennia, at least, anyway, although likely not nearly as widespread as now anywhere before (we have the tech to do it easily). Also pointed out by others, the debate over whether shaved pussies make women look prepubescent or not: it really depends. Some women have pussies that look nothing like a young girls’ when shaved while others really would be hard to tell (small, pale inner labia hidden by full, smooth, pale outer labia). I’m surprised anyone who has been with more than a couple of women is not familiar with this variability, and takes a one-sided stance one way or the other. As per the baiting questions above concerning how one would know what a prepubescent female looks like: depending on culture (sauna culture to be specific), most everyone in Finland, for instance, knows exactly what prepubescent girls and boys (and 70-year old grandmas for that matter) look like naked. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/172 "2011-11-06T20:09:15Z")
> [@Toxylon](#): > > Like some others above, I tend to associate a total lack of pube grooming with a general lack of interest in sexual activities. Certainly dubious, but based on personal experience. I’m 45, and prefer shaved or neatly trimmed. I’ve been effectively celibate for almost 16 years, but when I was still getting busy the completely shaved pussy was still quite a novelty. The only one I ever encountered was on a girl I dated for a year and a half. She usually just trimmed, but sometimes took it all off. She was also a few years younger than me. Relevant to the above quote, I had sexual encounters with women closer to my own age as well as a couple who were older, and most of them did little to no trimming. And I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the majority of them also wouldn’t let me go down on them (nor they on me). Their whole idea of sex seemed to be “spread their legs so I could put my dick in them”. No interest in foreplay beyond some kissing and boob fondling. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/173 "2011-11-06T22:50:06Z")
> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#): > > Indeed, I read the title as “Harry Potter or Shaved Porn?”, and I wondered why those were my only two choices. Thanks, **Tom Tildrum**! I just couldn’t think of a title for my new Harry Potter fanfic… ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/174 "2011-11-06T23:10:53Z")
Killing double post. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/176 "2014-11-05T04:05:30Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > I think the women who have made it a lifelong practice to wax are going to regret it someday when they can’t grow it anymore (which happens with waxing). Vulvas, like everything else, get less cute with age, hair isn’t such a bad thing. Hair is nice because it helps disguise things. Like how weird a vagina (and I do mean the vagina and its folds, not the vulva) can look in one of the ubiquitous close-ups found in porn. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/177 "2014-11-05T06:21:41Z")
There is nothing more glorious than a full, golden bush on a beautiful natural blonde. On this, I shall brook no debate! ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033/178 "2014-11-05T17:31:43Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > Hair is nice because it helps disguise things. Like how weird a vagina (and I do mean the vagina and its folds, not the vulva) can look in one of the ubiquitous close-ups found in porn. Especially zombie vaginas. (This thread is 3 years old.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-hairy-porn-or-shaved-porn/600033.md?page=8)