# Simpletown Mafia the Third **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [February 10, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpletown-mafia-the-third/745735 "2016-02-10T18:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpletown-mafia-the-third/745735/61 "2016-02-16T01:58:23Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > I was waiting to at least hear from everyone before voting. \*\*Fair Rarity \*\*has posted nothing to this point. I’m lurking and getting a feel for things. This set up is different from the other place I play. There’s one vote per person per round and that’s it. No unvoting and revoting. And I have died EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Unfairly too, I might add. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpletown-mafia-the-third/745735/62 "2016-02-16T02:14:35Z")
> [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > I’m lurking and getting a feel for things. This set up is different from the other place I play. There’s one vote per person per round and that’s it. No unvoting and revoting. > > And I have died EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Unfairly too, I might add. I’ve only played a few times, and it seems just about everyone dies every single time. Although some more fairly than others. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpletown-mafia-the-third/745735/63 "2016-02-16T02:18:28Z")
I thought a plurality couldn’t also be a tie? I’m probably splitting hairs. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpletown-mafia-the-third/745735/64 "2016-02-16T02:37:34Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Hey, three votes on me. Yeah, enough kidding around, this could get serious. No. **unvote** **Vote Prof. Pepperwinkle** > [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > I’m lurking and getting a feel for things. This set up is different from the other place I play. There’s one vote per person per round and that’s it. No unvoting and revoting. > > And I have died EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Unfairly too, I might add. Don’t lurk. **Unvote Prof. Pepperwinkle** **Vote Fair Rarity** ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpletown-mafia-the-third/745735/65 "2016-02-16T08:26:11Z")
**Vote Mahaloth** ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpletown-mafia-the-third/745735/66 "2016-02-16T12:37:01Z")
> [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > **Vote Mahaloth** Boo. Explanation? And an explanation why you had to be asked for one? ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpletown-mafia-the-third/745735/67 "2016-02-16T14:23:12Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > I thought a plurality couldn’t also be a tie? I’m probably splitting hairs. The wording is not precise. I wasn’t able to think of better words to use without belaboring a minor point. Plurality wins. Ties are broken by random chance. No lynch doesn’t count in ties. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpletown-mafia-the-third/745735/68 "2016-02-16T14:34:00Z")
> [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > I’m lurking and getting a feel for things. This set up is different from the other place I play. There’s one vote per person per round and that’s it. No unvoting and revoting. > > And I have died EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Unfairly too, I might add. Vote Fair Rarity There is no “I” in T-O-W-N. Even jokes and bad poetry can be revealing, if not now then later. You have to give us something to work with. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpletown-mafia-the-third/745735/69 "2016-02-16T16:07:43Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > **unvote** I will accept this. However, you are supposed to indicate who is being unvoted as a matter of record. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpletown-mafia-the-third/745735/70 "2016-02-16T16:40:01Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Boo. Explanation? Just following your lead in brevity of justifying votes > [@Mahaloth](#): > > And an explanation why you had to be asked for one? Well I can’t really explain why you asked me for a explanation. I suspect it is because you are Ok with not giving explanation for votes, as you don’t want to leave any evidence out there, being scum, and you are happy to raise the issue when someone else votes with minimal explanation, in an effort to smudge etc . ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpletown-mafia-the-third/745735/71 "2016-02-16T16:40:37Z")
**Vote Kimble**. For lurking. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpletown-mafia-the-third/745735/72 "2016-02-16T16:47:00Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > **Vote Kimble**. > > For lurking. And conveniently making it a 2 - 2 tie with you . ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpletown-mafia-the-third/745735/73 "2016-02-16T16:55:05Z")
But those, I hope, are joke votes. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpletown-mafia-the-third/745735/74 "2016-02-16T17:04:55Z")
Current votes: 3 - **Prof. P.** : TexCat [36], septimus [51], snfaulkner [53] 2 - **Kimble** : Johnny Bravo (44], Prof. P. [71] 2 -\*\* Fair Rarity\*\*: Mahaloth [64, Biotop [68] 1 - **Precambrianmollusc** : Kimble [37] 1 - **Mahaloth** : Precambrianmollusc [65] Not voted yet: Fair Rarity ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpletown-mafia-the-third/745735/75 "2016-02-16T17:08:23Z")
Ok I can’t count . ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpletown-mafia-the-third/745735/76 "2016-02-16T21:40:03Z")
> [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > Just following your lead in brevity of justifying votes > Well I can’t really explain why you asked me for a explanation. I suspect it is because you are Ok with not giving explanation for votes, as you don’t want to leave any evidence out there, being scum, and you are happy to raise the issue when someone else votes with minimal explanation, in an effort to smudge etc . I can’t disagree that Mahaloth’s vote was brief. However he did at least point to the posts that caused him to vote. Your vote was completely naked; not even a cheese pun with it. **Fair Rarity,** If you only get one unchangeable vote, do you use a lot of FOSing? (FingerOfSuspicion)? Or do you say who you are thinking of voting? I’m trying to figure out how that would work. ---
**Author:** ![Kimble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimble/32/19185_2.png) [@Kimble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimble)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpletown-mafia-the-third/745735/77 "2016-02-16T22:37:51Z")
I a-Gruyère’s been an issue with me lurking; I apologize for that. (Personal and work stuff both came up; they’re somewhat better now and will be fine next week.) Also, I hadn’t really seen anything good to comment on – until PCM’s naked vote on Mahaloth and his explanation thereof. It seems overly defensive to me, as TexCat mentioned above. I like my vote where it is for now. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpletown-mafia-the-third/745735/78 "2016-02-17T00:38:51Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > The game will operate on a weekly schedule. Days will start at some semi-arbitrary point during the weekend after Saturday 4:00PM EST. All Night Actions received before 4:00PM EST will be considered valid. Night Actions received after Saturday 4:00PM **may or may not be valid**. > > Days will end sometime after Thursdays 4:00 PM EST by the SDMB clock. All votes posted before 4:00PM EST by SDMB board time are guaranteed to be valid. Votes after 4:00PM EST **may or may not be valid**. To our humble narrator. A quick question regarding your bolded points above. What would determine whether a late vote is valid or not? I ask because it seems End of Day will occur like an hour before I usually come into the office and check in on the game. If 4pm EST is a hard deadline, I can arrange to have my vote locked in by Wed night before I leave the office. But if it is a soft/fuzzy end time, that could give me an extra 16 or so hours to decide and/or read up on everyone else’s final arguments… ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpletown-mafia-the-third/745735/79 "2016-02-17T01:14:10Z")
4:00PM EST should be considered the deadline. No votes placed after this time are guaranteed to be valid. The reason for this setup is to eliminate any attempts to game the end of Day or End of night. In my opinion is it unfair to game an advantage simply because one player can be online at 4:00PM and another can not. Should someone attempt to use the deadline to their advantage, there is a random amount of time after the deadline where others could thwart any gaming. So yes, you could change your vote or delay your vote, but I wouldn’t guarantee it would be valid. I doubt the fuzzy end time will stretch 16 hours long. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpletown-mafia-the-third/745735/80 "2016-02-17T01:21:00Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > 4:00PM EST should be considered the deadline. No votes placed after this time are guaranteed to be valid. > > The reason for this setup is to eliminate any attempts to game the end of Day or End of night. In my opinion is it unfair to game an advantage simply because one player can be online at 4:00PM and another can not. Should someone attempt to use the deadline to their advantage, there is a random amount of time after the deadline where others could thwart any gaming. > > So yes, you could change your vote or delay your vote, but I wouldn’t guarantee it would be valid. I doubt the fuzzy end time will stretch 16 hours long. Got it. Thank you, kind sir! (Though the 16hrs part that I mentioned was the time between when I leave the office wed night until I got back into the office Thurs afternoon. The fuzziness for me would have been about an hour) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpletown-mafia-the-third/745735.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpletown-mafia-the-third/745735.md?page=5)