# Simpsons 3/30: "Smoke on the Daughter" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 31, 2008, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-3-30-smoke-on-the-daughter/443407 "2008-03-31T17:13:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-3-30-smoke-on-the-daughter/443407/1 "2008-03-31T17:13:57Z")
KABF08 Written by Billy Kimball A rather goofy episode, but _The Simpsons_ has done a number of goofy-yet-entertaining episodes in the past, such as “The Springfield Files” and “Simpson Tide,” but this one manages to be entertaining too, despite its goofiness. The second (and, most likely, final) appearance of Angelica Button at the open was rather entertaining, especially for me, as I accompanied one of my friends to a midnight open for _The Deathly Hallows_- and it was funny to see Lisa…er, to use Internet parlance, “pwn” Comic Book Guy. The quick spoof of _CSI: Miami_ reminded me of all the jokes _The Soup_ has made about the whole “David Caruso puts on his sunglasses, makes a pun, cue theme song” thing. Although Bart _and_ Lisa have both been dancers before, the main story was rather entertaining- and even though they’ve done spoofs of tobacco executives before, it surprised me to realize it’s taken them 19 years for one of the kids to have a cigarette addiction. The ending with the girls attempting to smoke whatever they can find while suffering withdrawls was funny (especially the one dancer who attempts to smoke the cigarette on a “no smoking” sign), and the fact that Lisa knows of all the great writers and such who smoked, but learned about the dangers of cigarettes from kids’ shows (“They kill you! They did a whole episode about it on _The Suite Life of Zack and Cody_…Zack’s life wasn’t so suite then!”) is a good example of how Lisa is a smart girl, but still a child. And we get some typical Homer antics, too. Highlights include Homer attempting to use a crossbow while drowsy and putting a mask on a raccoon. “Auditions are Monday, callbacks are Tuesday, Wednesday you see I’m a heartless bastard, Thursday you realize you love me, damn it. Friday we’re closed.” ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-3-30-smoke-on-the-daughter/443407/2 "2008-03-31T17:43:23Z")
I thought it veered towards too-preachy-to-be-entertaining, but remained entertaining. Although not mentioning at all that Bart was once a young male ballet prodigy seemed a bit out of character. (Although perhaps they’d rather forget that embarassing excuse for a B-plot.) ---
**Author:** ![Iggins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Iggins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggins)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-3-30-smoke-on-the-daughter/443407/3 "2008-03-31T17:46:48Z")
I loved the El Guapo ending! “Preen to the crowd, boy!” ---
**Author:** ![Will\_Repair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a698b9/32.png) [@Will\_Repair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Will_Repair)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-3-30-smoke-on-the-daughter/443407/4 "2008-03-31T17:48:21Z")
My laugh out loud moment was when Homer pulled out the gun and shot the cigarette butt. The inside of his coat only added to the laughter. ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-3-30-smoke-on-the-daughter/443407/5 "2008-03-31T17:48:33Z")
What a steaming pile of shit this was- the reason why they haven’t done a Simpsons kids takes up smoking episode is because its a was a hackneyed sitcom plot when Greg Brady did it 40 years ago- the Simpsons used to above such dreck. Didn’t they once do a whole show mocking lame 70’s sitcom plots, back when the show was funny? And as the Op noted, not only have we had a Lisa dance episode before, but a Bart does ballet episode- I know ideas are hard to come by for this bunch, but holy christ. And doesn’t whoever approved this script written by a reject from the staff of Life Goes On know that Godboy Flanders wouldn’t be on-line to buy an Angelica Button book, unless he was going to buy them all and burn them? I thought they were going to correct it when Flanders pulled out a book, but it turned out to be a Hardy Boys nonsequitur. And oh yeah, the lighter side of Nelson schtick got old with his Andy Williams fascination and the tutorial on how to prepare huckleberries. Next weeks epsiode- Marge finds a tin of Swedish lutefisk with her picture on it, Lisa takes jazz dance class, and Bart sees Homer kissing a strange woman and thinks he’s cheating on Marge, but get this, it turns out it was his cousin- hilarity ensues! ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-3-30-smoke-on-the-daughter/443407/6 "2008-03-31T17:57:07Z")
And oh yeah, I’d like to have a fly on the wall when the brainstorming session for the secondary plot was going on- "I got it, Homer and Bart make batches of beef jerky in the basement, and they get stolen by a family of raccoons that look like the Simpson family’! Brilliant! ---
**Author:** ![MrSquishy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MrSquishy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrSquishy)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-3-30-smoke-on-the-daughter/443407/7 "2008-03-31T18:25:42Z")
[QUOTE=Iggins] I loved the El Guapo ending! “Preen to the crowd, boy!” [/QUOTE] For the most part, I agree with **Wee Bairn** about this episode’s lameness. I’m certainly not an “every Simpsons episode since season #4 is crap” guy either. But I just didn’t laugh at this one much. However, Bart as a luchador totally cracked me up. ---
**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-3-30-smoke-on-the-daughter/443407/8 "2008-03-31T19:16:08Z")
I liked the Lisa raccoon eating an acorn. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-3-30-smoke-on-the-daughter/443407/9 "2008-03-31T19:45:20Z")
The ballet instructor seemed clearly modeled after Roy Schieder in _All That Jazz_. I wonder if they tried to get Roy to do the voice? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-3-30-smoke-on-the-daughter/443407/10 "2008-04-01T00:11:07Z")
My favorite jokes in this one all came early - I think Marge’s stethoscopes were my favorite. I wanted the ballerina’s nic fit to be crazier, but I did like the twist they put on it at the end by having Lisa decry ballet instead of cigarettes. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-3-30-smoke-on-the-daughter/443407/11 "2008-04-01T01:28:25Z")
[QUOTE=Tuckerfan] The ballet instructor seemed clearly modeled after Roy Schieder in _All That Jazz_. I wonder if they tried to get Roy to do the voice? [/QUOTE] Since he’s dead, I’m gonna say no. ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-3-30-smoke-on-the-daughter/443407/12 "2008-04-01T01:48:19Z")
[QUOTE=Frostillicus] Since he’s dead, I’m gonna say no. [/QUOTE] These are the episodes that were completed before the strike, right? So the voices must have been done last summer… ---
**Author:** ![Gozu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gozu/32/6615_2.png) [@Gozu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-3-30-smoke-on-the-daughter/443407/13 "2008-04-01T03:47:34Z")
[QUOTE=Wee Bairn] _something akin to_ Worst.Episode.Ever [/QUOTE] I liked it. Several good jokes in it. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-3-30-smoke-on-the-daughter/443407/14 "2008-04-01T05:34:32Z")
[QUOTE=Frostillicus] Since he’s dead, I’m gonna say no. [/QUOTE] I was once given to understand that it’s not unheard of for celebrity voice tracks to be recorded several months before broadcast. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-3-30-smoke-on-the-daughter/443407/15 "2008-04-01T09:30:07Z")
[QUOTE=Frostillicus] Since he’s dead, I’m gonna say no. [/QUOTE] The production cycle for an episode is about 6 months (or at least it was, they may have gotten the time down faster by now). It’s entirely possible (and probable) that they could have approached him last year to do the voice. ---
**Author:** ![thirdname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@thirdname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdname)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-3-30-smoke-on-the-daughter/443407/16 "2008-04-01T11:21:53Z")
[QUOTE=Tuckerfan] The ballet instructor seemed clearly modeled after Roy Schieder in _All That Jazz_. I wonder if they tried to get Roy to do the voice? [/QUOTE] It sounded like Hank Azaria to me. What was that music the instructor danced to when he left the studio? They danced to that in the credits of Strangers With Candy once. ---
**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-3-30-smoke-on-the-daughter/443407/17 "2008-04-01T12:06:20Z")
[QUOTE=riker1384] What was that music the instructor danced to when he left the studio? They danced to that in the credits of Strangers With Candy once. [/QUOTE] It is either a parody or the actual song of _On Broadway_ (I can’t tell which), which was used in the opening of _All That Jazz_. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-3-30-smoke-on-the-daughter/443407/18 "2008-04-01T15:29:32Z")
Stop saying things, **Wee Bairn**. That’s the TV’s job! I really enjoyed this one, although yeah, my Inner Comic Book Guy did keep objecting that Bart has already done the ballet thing. The couxh gag was wonderful. ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-3-30-smoke-on-the-daughter/443407/19 "2008-04-01T15:39:23Z")
**Originally Posted by Wee Bairn something akin to Worst.Episode.Ever** I’m not offended, **Gozu** , but just curious how you did this quote- I didn’t write that? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-3-30-smoke-on-the-daughter/443407/20 "2008-04-01T15:53:37Z")
[QUOTE=Thudlow Boink] The couxh gag was wonderful. [/QUOTE] I missed the blackboard and couch gags. What were they? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-3-30-smoke-on-the-daughter/443407.md?page=2)