# Simpsons Didn't Do It!

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 21, 2004, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-didnt-do-it/256216 "2004-07-21T18:18:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2004, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-didnt-do-it/256216/61 "2004-07-22T17:31:40Z")

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> [@Evil Captor](#):
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> I kinda think Homer getting raped while wearing a panda suit would qualify.

About as much as Bart selling his soul to Milhous would qualify as a reference to Athiesm.

Which is to say, it is almost, but not quite, entirely unlike it.

The Island of Dr Moreau Treehouse of Horror is closer.

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**Author:** ![xvxdarkknightxvx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/34f0e0/32.png) [@xvxdarkknightxvx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xvxdarkknightxvx)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2004, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-didnt-do-it/256216/62 "2004-07-22T17:42:39Z")

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> [@teemingONE](#):
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> Was there anything else to that Family Guy/Spider-Man gag? I just found it funny cause it was out of nowhere, did I miss a bigger joke?

Nope, that was the singular time it happened. That’s what made it so funny. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2004, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-didnt-do-it/256216/63 "2004-07-22T18:12:58Z")

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> [@Tengu](#):
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> About as much as Bart selling his soul to Milhous would qualify as a reference to Athiesm.
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> Which is to say, it is almost, but not quite, entirely unlike it.
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> The Island of Dr Moreau Treehouse of Horror is closer.

Well, I must concede my knowledge of furries is quite limited, not to mention panda love. However, if the panda suit reference doesn’t count for the furries, the generic horror movie bondage doesn’t count toward the Goreans.

Which is kinda why I said Goreans rather than BDSM. I really don’t think the horror movie scene counts as a reference to general BDSM, either – it’s just a horrorific scene reflecting Marge’s fevered fantasies of what the hussy is doing to her family.

I thought the scene where the magician whips out a strap-on ballgag and puts it on Marge was a lot more … gratuitous.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2004, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-didnt-do-it/256216/64 "2004-07-22T18:33:13Z")

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> [@Evil Captor](#):
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> However, if the panda suit reference doesn’t count for the furries, the generic horror movie bondage doesn’t count toward the Goreans.

I’d just like to point out that I never said it did.

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**Author:** ![yellowcakesolid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/cdc98d/32.png) [@yellowcakesolid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowcakesolid)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2004, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-didnt-do-it/256216/65 "2004-07-22T19:55:36Z")

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Good call on the pool, badomen and volta.

Throwing some other stuff out there for people to shoot down.

1. Cocaine and heroin use specifically Lots of mind altering events take place thanks to licking toads or eating insanity peppers. Pain killers have been issued by the hospital. I don’t know if actual heroin or cocaine use has been depicted, however.

2. The Holocaust and concentration camps

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2004, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-didnt-do-it/256216/66 "2004-07-22T20:08:19Z")

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> [@yellowcakesolid](#):
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> Good call on the pool, badomen and volta.
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> Throwing some other stuff out there for people to shoot down.
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> 1. Cocaine and heroin use specifically Lots of mind altering events take place thanks to licking toads or eating insanity peppers. Pain killers have been issued by the hospital. I don’t know if actual heroin or cocaine use has been depicted, however.

In a recent episode, when Marge was in Rehab for Homers drinking she made a comment about getting high (I’m having trouble remembering it exactly). After she says that is isn’t drunk, smoked, injested or snorted, Otto says something like “Well, you’ll have to inject it between my toes. My mother checks my arms for needle marks.”

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> 1. The Holocaust and concentration camps

Not that I can recall specifically, but the refrences to Hitler are fairly common. Hitler, North Dakota for example.

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**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2004, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-didnt-do-it/256216/67 "2004-07-22T20:20:13Z")

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How old should the Simpsons be? I’m not just talking about adding the years of the season to their starting age. Because each year or season only has (20?) episodes or so. But in each episode, a different number of days are represented.  
Episodes that depicted special scenarios that were not intended to be part of the episode’s continuity - like Halloween Specials - won’t count.

So starting from the first episdoe, or at least the first episode that their ages were mentioned, and adding to that all the days the subsequent episodes depicted, then how old should they all be?

Dont forget leap years.

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**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2004, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-didnt-do-it/256216/68 "2004-07-22T20:24:36Z")

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Well… just crap! That was supposed to be a whole new thread. Damnit. At least it’s in a similar themed thread anyway. I was scared to death because I looked up after noticing what I had done and I saw someone talking about the holocaust!  
For a second my heart dropped!! “What Have I Done!!!” I screamed to myself!!  
Thank goodness I had not posted this to a serious and depressing conversation about concentration camps… whew…

Anyway, this should have been a new thread. But if it just died here swallowed up by this thread, that wouldn’t be much of a crime.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2004, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-didnt-do-it/256216/69 "2004-07-22T21:24:26Z")

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> [@Evil Captor](#):
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> I thought the scene where the magician whips out a strap-on ballgag and puts it on Marge was a lot more … gratuitous.

Similarly, there was the ball-gagging of Chief Wiggum and Snake, in a direct parody of _Pulp Fiction_. There was even the implied threat of rape, when Herman (the store’s one-armed proprietor) said “As soon as Zed gets here, the party can begin”. He was thwarted by a mace-swinging Millhouse.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2004, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-didnt-do-it/256216/70 "2004-07-22T21:46:59Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Cocaine and heroin use specifically Lots of mind altering events take place thanks to licking toads or eating insanity peppers. Pain killers have been issued by the hospital. I don’t know if actual heroin or cocaine use has been depicted, however.

In the recent Marge in rehab episode, Homer is in her room and he holds up what looks loike a bag of cocaine. (He then says “it’s corn syrup” or something, I have a hard timer remembering since it was three days ago :))

And of course, there’s been many pot references, the main one being Homer’s medical marijuana episode, one of my favorites:

"Marge! I just realized that I’m the “ow”…in “now!”

“I never knew how sick I was. I had to hear it from Phish.”

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-didnt-do-it/256216/71 "2004-07-23T07:16:48Z")

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> [@Dooku](#):
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> In the recent Marge in rehab episode, Homer is in her room and he holds up what looks loike a bag of cocaine. (He then says “it’s corn syrup” or something, I have a hard timer remembering since it was three days ago :))

Also, the episode which deals with Springfield residents’ overindulgence in sugar includes this bit of testimony: “Disco Stu got addicted to the white stuff in the seventies.”

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-didnt-do-it/256216/72 "2004-07-23T11:10:08Z")

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I don’t think they’ve directly made fun of the California Governor recall as of yet. Ranier Wolfcastle should go at it with the Mayor or somesuch.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-didnt-do-it/256216/73 "2004-07-23T12:40:40Z")

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> [@yellowcakesolid](#):
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> 1. Cocaine and heroin use specifically Lots of mind altering events take place thanks to licking toads or eating insanity peppers. Pain killers have been issued by the hospital. I don’t know if actual heroin or cocaine use has been depicted, however.

Krusty does reference cocaine use in his Bar Mitzvah episode - I forget what he’s talking about, but he makes the “snorting” gesture, then changes his tack when he realises Bart and Lisa are in the room, IIRC

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-didnt-do-it/256216/74 "2004-07-23T12:56:10Z")

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Have Homer & family fought as mercenaries in a small 3rd world nation yet? 🙂

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-didnt-do-it/256216/75 "2004-07-23T14:18:58Z")

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_If_ they would’ve done it in the height of its popularity, I think a Trading Spaces show would’ve been funny. The bigger question would be, who would they trade with, the Flanders’? (Bringing Maude back to life might be a challenge). The Van Houtens are divorced… maybe it’s a bad idea.  
Heh.

(Have they done any reality shows?)

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-didnt-do-it/256216/76 "2004-07-23T14:49:52Z")

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> [@stpauler](#):
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> _If_ they would’ve done it in the height of its popularity, I think a Trading Spaces show would’ve been funny. The bigger question would be, who would they trade with, the Flanders’? (Bringing Maude back to life might be a challenge). The Van Houtens are divorced… maybe it’s a bad idea.  
> Heh.
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> (Have they done any reality shows?)

Yes, the one where they are living a normal day to day life in the 1800s. I can not remember the who, what, or why but it has been covered.

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-didnt-do-it/256216/77 "2004-07-23T14:56:28Z")

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RE drug use, I’ll note that when they visit the Duff Beer theme park, Bart dares Lisa to drink the water in the boat ride, resulting in her “I am the Lizard Queen!” rant

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-didnt-do-it/256216/78 "2004-07-23T21:54:35Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> RE drug use, I’ll note that when they visit the Duff Beer theme park, Bart dares Lisa to drink the water in the boat ride, resulting in her “I am the Lizard Queen!” rant

There’s also the episode where the Simpsons go to England and Bart and Lisa get whacked out on candy, leading to a _Lust for Life_ montage which is an homage to _Trainspotting_. In the episode where Bart gets a drivers license, he, Marten, Nelson and Milhouse go see _Naked Lunch_.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-didnt-do-it/256216/79 "2004-07-23T22:32:55Z")

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> [@Tuckerfan](#):
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> In the episode where Bart gets a drivers license, he, Marten, Nelson and Milhouse go see _Naked Lunch_.

Leading to Nelson’s famous line, as he looks at the marquee after the movie: “I can think of at least two things wrong with that title.” 😃

> [@badomen](#):
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> One thing they have never done - told which state Springfield is in.

At the very end of _Behind the Laughter_, the narrator describes them as a “northern Kentucky family.” In syndication this is apparently sometimes changed to Missouri. Springfield’s geography is such that it can’t be in any real state, but they have said it’s in those places. (Also, an early episode shows their state’s abbreviation is “NT”.)

Re: Bender: He appears on the show as a delusion brought on by Bart’s exhaustion. So it doesn’t really affect Futurama’s existence in that universe, he’s not really there. And while _we_ recognize Bender, we don’t know that Bart does. For all Bart knows, he’s just imagining some robot standing next to Pikachu and the clown while they’re dancing the Hora.

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**Post date:** [July 24, 2004, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-didnt-do-it/256216/80 "2004-07-24T03:18:31Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> At the very end of _Behind the Laughter_, the narrator describes them as a “northern Kentucky family.” In syndication this is apparently sometimes changed to Missouri. Springfield’s geography is such that it can’t be in any real state, but they have said it’s in those places. (Also, an early episode shows their state’s abbreviation is “NT”.)

And, in the episode where Springfield was divided over the addition of a new area code, the new code instituted was a currently existing Missouri one.

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