# Simpsons updated **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 19, 2003, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-updated/149613 "2003-01-19T08:26:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![senor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@senor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/senor)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-updated/149613/1 "2003-01-19T08:26:21Z")
Hola! I read somewhere that the Simpsons are renewed by the FOX network until 2005. Which wants me to ask Matt Groening this?.. Can we let the children grow up, Bart and Lisa in High School and Maggie in Junior High and the parents a little older and wiser (maybe not Homer) There has been some episodes that showed a glimpse of the characters getting older thru dreams and such (the Indian casino episode) but I think that this would be entertaining by all. I want to see Bart drink beer and smoke, Lisa with a boyfriend and Maggie with issues. Allow our little yellow children to grow up!!! SENOR ---
**Author:** ![gex\_gex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/94ad74/32.png) [@gex\_gex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gex_gex)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-updated/149613/2 "2003-01-19T12:54:11Z")
But, but, but… that’d be like telling us where Springfield is! ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-updated/149613/3 "2003-01-19T13:09:06Z")
But Matt Groening is telling all of us that ‘we’re all young kids at heart’ All of Barts Jokes are flat, lisas is like a trapped 40 year old eco warrior trapped in an 8year olds body, and maggie is a freak of nature. Homer should be legally dead, and so should Marge from amount of nagging and stress (and some boredom) I hate the new series so much anger overload arrrrgh! And why does there haveto be a parade in one in 3 episodes all the time? Fuck off, I wanna grow up as soon as possible. ---
**Author:** ![nineiron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e56c9b/32.png) [@nineiron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nineiron)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-updated/149613/4 "2003-01-19T13:25:14Z")
Wow, what a shock. A thread where people complain about the Simpsons.:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-updated/149613/5 "2003-01-19T18:36:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by nineiron \* > \*\*Wow, what a shock. A thread where people complain about the Simpsons.:rolleyes: \*\* Trust me, if you look in most current Simpsons thread, you will find that many people(including me) have found that the show has lost it’s sense of humor. ---
**Author:** ![JDeMobray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85e7bf/32.png) [@JDeMobray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JDeMobray)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-updated/149613/6 "2003-01-19T18:49:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mahaloth \* > \*\*Trust me, if you look in most current Simpsons thread, you will find that many people(including me) have found that the show has lost it’s sense of humor. \*\* People keep saying this as though it actually means something. I just don’t understand. Maybe I’m the crazy one but I see the quality of a television show as binary measurement. Either it is good enough to watch and I therefore watch it. Or it isn’t enjoyable for me and I don’t watch it. I, for example, didn’t like Firefly and, after the three episodes that I watched to give it a fair shake, I simply stopped turning the TV on before John Doe. The Simpsons style has evolved over the years. I find their newer material to be very funny. You don’t, and that’s fine. But I don’t understand why you would keep watching a television show you don’t enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-updated/149613/7 "2003-01-19T19:16:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mahaloth \* > \*\*Trust me, if you look in most current Simpsons thread, you will find that many people(including me) have found that the show has lost it’s sense of humor. \*\* Actually, there are only a handful of you, but you bitch and moan enough for a lot more. I’m with JDM, if you don’t find it up to snuff anymore, why watch? Also, why pop into every Simpsons thread to bemoan how bad the series is now? Does it make you feel superior that your tastes are “more refined” than other peoples? If so, let me tell you that you’re not, it’s frankly just sad to watch. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-updated/149613/8 "2003-01-19T19:24:17Z")
Despite its ups and downs over the past 13 years, a bad episode of the Simpsons STILL beats a good episode of Friends. ---
**Author:** ![JDeMobray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85e7bf/32.png) [@JDeMobray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JDeMobray)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-updated/149613/9 "2003-01-19T19:45:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mr. Blue Sky \* > \*\*Despite its ups and downs over the past 13 years, a bad episode of the Simpsons STILL beats a good episode of Friends. \*\* I don’t know about that. _Moanin’ Lisa_ was probably the worst 22 minutes of television I’ve ever had to sit through. It was a real shame they had to bring Bleedin’ Gums Murphy back in order to kill him, rather than give him the Dr. Marvin Monroe Treament. ---
**Author:** ![JDeMobray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85e7bf/32.png) [@JDeMobray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JDeMobray)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-updated/149613/10 "2003-01-19T19:51:00Z")
(Just to clarify, I don’t like _Friends_ much at all. But I do remember that during the first season when my roommate was addicted to the show there were a couple of episodes I laughed at. . . in the way the writers intended.) ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-updated/149613/11 "2003-01-19T20:35:07Z")
Mrs. Blue Sky likes Friends. Occasionally, I’ll stop and watch with her. On most occasions I am forced to ask, “This IS supposed to be funny, right?” ---
**Author:** ![nineiron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e56c9b/32.png) [@nineiron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nineiron)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-updated/149613/12 "2003-01-19T20:56:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mahaloth \* > \*\*Trust me, if you look in most current Simpsons thread, you will find that many people(including me) have found that the show has lost it’s sense of humor. \*\* Um, I know, that’s why the eyeroll was there. Because, you see, it’s not much of a surprise. Every Simpsons thread is a negative one. That’s the gist. ---
**Author:** ![JDeMobray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85e7bf/32.png) [@JDeMobray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JDeMobray)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-updated/149613/13 "2003-01-19T21:05:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mr. Blue Sky \* > \*\*Mrs. Blue Sky likes Friends. Occasionally, I’ll stop and watch with her. On most occasions I am forced to ask, “This IS supposed to be funny, right?” \*\* Don’t you mean “Could this **BE** any less funny?” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-updated/149613/14 "2003-01-19T21:19:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by senor \* > **I want to see Bart drink beer and smoke, Lisa with a boyfriend and Maggie with issues. Allow our little yellow children to grow up!!!** I always thought that would be the perfect joke for the Simpsons. No announcements. No explanations. Just one episode, all of a sudden, perhaps even in the middle of it, they all skip ahead 10 years and it stays that way. So I’m with you all the way. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2003, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-updated/149613/15 "2003-01-20T01:08:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by JDeMobray \* > \*\*The Simpsons style has evolved over the years. I find their newer material to be very funny. You don’t, and that’s fine. But I don’t understand why you would keep watching a television show you don’t enjoy. \*\* Especially if it makes one so angry. I tend to just ignore entertainment that has this effect on me. Apparently there are some that actively seek it out. Strange. ---
**Author:** ![Chocobo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Chocobo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chocobo)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2003, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-updated/149613/16 "2003-01-20T02:51:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by JDeMobray \* > \*\*I don’t know about that. _Moanin’ Lisa_ was probably the worst 22 minutes of television I’ve ever had to sit through. It was a real shame they had to bring Bleedin’ Gums Murphy back in order to kill him, rather than give him the Dr. Marvin Monroe Treament. \*\* What are you _talking_ about?! That episode had one of the best lines in it! “You remember when you cat Snowball died?” “Yeah.” “Well I’m just saying that all we have to do is go down to the pound and get a new jazz man!” I think that a good reason that people keep tuning in is that all in all, the Simpsons, while it has had it’s down episodes, is still better than most things on television (especially Sunday nights at 8). There are some episodes I don’t care for, sure, and even now some of the episodes of the new season are hit-or-miss, but it’s still a great show, and I’ll watch it until the bitter, bitter end. Even if the shows are one crushing defeat after another, until you just wish Flanders was dead. ---
**Author:** ![JDeMobray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85e7bf/32.png) [@JDeMobray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JDeMobray)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2003, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-updated/149613/17 "2003-01-20T05:55:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Chocobo \* > **What are you _talking_ about?! That episode had one of the best lines in it! “You remember when you cat Snowball died?” “Yeah.” "Well I’m just saying that all we have to do is go down to the pound and get a new jazz man!"** I’m not complaining about the episode where he dies. . . directly anyway. (For the record that was ['Round Springfield](http://www.snpp.com/episodes/2F32.html) from season six.) [Moanin’ Lisa](http://www.snpp.com/episodes/7G06.html) is the Season one episode where a depressed (and depressing) Lisa first meets Bleeding Gums. It includes not one but two interminable musical sequences of Lisa . . . er. . . jazzing up the joint? The only saving grace of the episode is an underdeveloped B story with Homer trying to win a game of video boxing against Bart. ---
**Author:** ![gex\_gex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/94ad74/32.png) [@gex\_gex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gex_gex)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2003, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-updated/149613/18 "2003-01-20T11:48:05Z")
Ohhh… _that_ Moanin’ Lisa! Dude, what are you thinking! That’s a classic! ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2003, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-updated/149613/19 "2003-01-20T13:16:46Z")
According to _USA Today_, if _The Simpsons_ finishes its run in 2005, it’ll be the longest running sitcom in TV history. ---
**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2003, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-updated/149613/20 "2003-01-20T16:51:37Z")
> [@](#): > > Mrs. Blue Sky likes Friends. Occasionally, I’ll stop and watch with her. On most occasions I am forced to ask, “This IS supposed to be funny, right?” I think Friends is banal and predictable, the pabulum of an informational underclass who think humor is funny. At least, I would think that, if I owned a TV, which I don’t, because they are base and pedestrian. I derive entertainment mostly from rolling my eyes at people and trying to make them feel bad about what they find funny. What you find funny is a choice people, it’s not the involuntary reaction that liberals and abortion doctors would have you believe. I would continue to watch the Simpsons so I could feel smugly superior for having a refined sense of humor, whatever that is. If I owned a television. Which I don’t. Can someone fill me in on this reality TV thing that the newsmen are on about? I honestly have no idea what they’re talking about. Ah, Conan-era Simpsons, why hast thou forsaken me? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simpsons-updated/149613.md?page=2)