# Sin City question **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 15, 2006, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sin-city-question/368867 "2006-08-15T20:07:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sin-city-question/368867/1 "2006-08-15T20:07:25Z")
I haven’t read the comic, but I just watched the _Sin City_ movie. At one point, a minor character (bald, pale guy with dark glasses) took an arrow through the chest and appeared to be entirely unimpaired. No pain, no organs failing, nothing. There was no explanation in the movie; is there one in the comic? ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sin-city-question/368867/2 "2006-08-15T20:10:47Z")
> [@](#): > > I haven’t read the comic, but I just watched the Sin City movie. At one point, a minor character (bald, pale guy with dark glasses) took an arrow through the chest and appeared to be entirely unimpaired. No pain, no organs failing, nothing. There was no explanation in the movie; is there one in the comic? I looked through the Graphic Novel – it looks, as advertised, like the flicjk. No explanation. But the guy was seriously hurt, if nmot fatally hurt. He just hadn’t had time to respond to the injury. The implication is that the arrow was swift and its entry clean, so that the net physical effect was as if it had been teleported there, without pulling and disrupting the surrounding tissues. but a hole like that in your chest is gonna cause mjor problems. ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sin-city-question/368867/3 "2006-08-15T20:18:24Z")
In the movie, the guy is ice cold. He seems completely unfazed by suddenly growing an arrow from his chest. He has several lines before being killed. Is it like that in the comic too? Is he just supposed to be like really really tough? Slightly off the topic, I loved the movie. Would you recommend the comics? Where should I start reading? ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sin-city-question/368867/4 "2006-08-15T20:21:04Z")
[QUOTE=Priceguy] I haven’t read the comic, but I just watched the _Sin City_ movie. At one point, a minor character (bald, pale guy with dark glasses) took an arrow through the chest and appeared to be entirely unimpaired. No pain, no organs failing, nothing. There was no explanation in the movie; is there one in the comic? [/QUOTE] Was there any explanation on how a guy could be decapitated and still participate in a long, philosophical conversation? ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sin-city-question/368867/5 "2006-08-15T20:24:14Z")
[QUOTE=Jackknifed Juggernaut] Was there any explanation on how a guy could be decapitated and still participate in a long, philosophical conversation? [/QUOTE] Do you mean Jackie Boy? I think it’s pretty clear that Dwight was hallucinating the conversation. ---
**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sin-city-question/368867/6 "2006-08-15T20:31:12Z")
I believe it was for comic relief, no? The scenes before and after were pretty tense, and that man dies with a few hillarious lines. The audience where I was at laughed, and I have each time I have seen it. Not sure if that counts, but considering this is Movie Land with Movie Logic and Movie Neo Nazis, having someone live a little longer than they should to vary the pace makes a bit o’ Movie Sense. ---
**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sin-city-question/368867/7 "2006-08-15T20:32:17Z")
[QUOTE=Priceguy] Do you mean Jackie Boy? I think it’s pretty clear that Dwight was hallucinating the conversation. [/QUOTE] Oh, and he means the interogation with Halle Berry and that dude with the cool eye. Right before the brawl. ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sin-city-question/368867/8 "2006-08-15T20:47:11Z")
[QUOTE=ZebraShaSha] Oh, and he means the interogation with Halle Berry and that dude with the cool eye. Right before the brawl. [/QUOTE] I think you have at least four people mixed up. Halle Berry wasn’t in the movie, for one. ---
**Author:** ![Ghanima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Ghanima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ghanima)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sin-city-question/368867/9 "2006-08-15T20:49:08Z")
I thought the arrow-through-the-chest guy was supposed to be a stab (haha) at some comic (heh) relief. It didn’t come off too well. I though he looked like [Uncle Fester’s](http://static.flickr.com/41/85095823_accf10e19f_o.jpg) [skinny no-good punk nephew](http://www.geocities.com/cinemorgue2/nickykatt.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sin-city-question/368867/10 "2006-08-15T20:52:54Z")
[QUOTE=ZebraShaSha] Oh, and he means the interogation with Halle Berry and that dude with the cool eye. Right before the brawl. [/QUOTE] Halle Berry? Which scene was she in in Sin City? ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sin-city-question/368867/11 "2006-08-15T21:01:49Z")
The scene is meant to be comic relief. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sin-city-question/368867/12 "2006-08-15T21:49:42Z")
[QUOTE=Khadaji] Halle Berry? Which scene was she in in Sin City? [/QUOTE] That was the X-rated scene. They had to cut it to get the rating.\* \*At least this is how it goes in my fantasy. ---
**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sin-city-question/368867/13 "2006-08-15T22:06:22Z")
Geez, everybody. [ol] [li]Halle Berry was in the comic relief scene. She was wearing glasses over her cool eyes.[/li][li]You can still talk for a few seconds if you’ve been decapitated and there’s an arrow through your chest; obviously, the arrow doesn’t matter since your head’s not connected.[/li][li]Opal made a brief appearance in Sin City. She was one of the heads mounted on the wall at the farm.[/li][/ol] ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sin-city-question/368867/14 "2006-08-15T22:08:35Z")
Wow. I never knew the SDMB held a portal to the Twilight Zone. I should have suspected it that time giant sentient squids took over the world, though. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sin-city-question/368867/15 "2006-08-15T22:33:02Z")
Halle Berry was not in Sin City (thankfully). Do you mean Rosario Dawson? ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sin-city-question/368867/16 "2006-08-15T23:58:19Z")
So far, this is a very odd and entertaining thread. It has a petulant nose, a light texture, and a recalcitrant finish. Wasn’t that Chazz Palmintieri as the Shakespeare-quoting bellhop? I especially liked the simulated Steadicam shot on the spiral slide. ---
**Author:** ![Lazlo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lazlo/32/9678_2.png) [@Lazlo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lazlo)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sin-city-question/368867/17 "2006-08-16T10:46:02Z")
[QUOTE=Priceguy] He has several lines before being killed. Is it like that in the comic too? Is he just supposed to be like really really tough? Slightly off the topic, I loved the movie. Would you recommend the comics? Where should I start reading? [/QUOTE] In the book, _Stuka_ (Nazi guy) asks if he can take Becky somewhere private before he kills her. Take that as you will, but I felt it made him less of a cold, hard killer since it showed a weakness for lust. YMMV As far as the books go, I own them all and love every one. Since the movie did a damn fine representation of them, I’d start with the ones that aren’t in the film (Those were **That Yellow Bastard, The Hard Goodbye, \*\* and** The Big Fat Kill\*\*). My absolute favorite is **Hell and Back** followed very closely by **Family Values** , so I suggest one of those two. Reading the books in chronological order isn’t important, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Lazlo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lazlo/32/9678_2.png) [@Lazlo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lazlo)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sin-city-question/368867/18 "2006-08-16T10:54:50Z")
[QUOTE=Priceguy] I haven’t read the comic, but I just watched the _Sin City_ movie. At one point, a minor character (bald, pale guy with dark glasses) took an arrow through the chest and appeared to be entirely unimpaired. No pain, no organs failing, nothing. There was no explanation in the movie; is there one in the comic? [/QUOTE] I didn’t really answer the question… In the panels following his getting shot, Stuka starts getting worried. He says something to the effect of “This is really starting to hurt, I think I need a doctor,” but no one pays attention since they’re trying to figure out where the arrow came from. He meets his ultimate fate the same way as in the movie though. Again, there’s no real explaination about him being super tough. He’s just surprised by the arrow. By the way, that story line is **The Big Fat Kill.** ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2006, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sin-city-question/368867/19 "2006-08-17T01:56:23Z")
Actually, the reason is two-fold. One, as said, for comic effect. But the reason they can _have_ the comic effect is because of a line said by Clive Owen’s character earlier in the film. “Deadly little Miho. You’ll only feel it if she wants you to.” Cleary letting us know that she is so good at what she does, that she can hurt you without you actually feeling any pain. Hence why the guy was saying those things. He had an arrow in him, but aside from seeing it there, he wouldn’t have known. It didn’t hurt, he didn’t feel like he was dying, it was just there for some strange reason. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2006, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sin-city-question/368867/20 "2006-08-17T02:00:17Z")
I just figured the guy was going into shock from having a fricken arrow through his torso. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sin-city-question/368867.md?page=2)