# Sinatra Centennial

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sinatra-centennial/740197>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 11, 2015, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sinatra-centennial/740197 "2015-12-11T20:34:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sinatra-centennial/740197/1 "2015-12-11T20:34:21Z")

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Ol’ Blue Eyes would’ve turned 100 tomorrow. Here’s more: [http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/11/opinions/lehman-frank-sinatra/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/11/opinions/lehman-frank-sinatra/index.html)

My favorite song of his: “Come Fly With Me” from 1958: [- YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeNg1t1cdpY)

Yours?

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sinatra-centennial/740197/2 "2015-12-11T20:48:01Z")

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I’m a big fan of _New York, New York_.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sinatra-centennial/740197/3 "2015-12-11T21:05:31Z")

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Which version? Link, please (and for subsequent posters).

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sinatra-centennial/740197/4 "2015-12-11T21:23:42Z")

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Too many to choose just one, but for this thread I’ll go with I\*'ve Got You Under My Skin\* (from the ‘87 Songs For Swingin’ Lovers CD, not the remastered reissue).

Funny thing…I’m reading the second volume of Kaplan’s biography, and I’m up to where he quotes an article about Frank’s performance in _Can Can_(Sinatra added a “ring-a ding-ding” to Porter’s _C’est Maginfique_):

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> It may be just one ring-a-ding-ding, but it is a significant moment in Sinatra’s film career, because after appearing in forty films, it’s the first time Frank doesn’t bother to try…He is, in effect, saying, “Hey, I’m Frank Sinatra–I’ll coast along here on my charm…” Such and attitude can be charming in a nightclub, but on film it’s disconcerting at best, and deadly at worst.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sinatra-centennial/740197/5 "2015-12-11T21:40:22Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Which version? Link, please (and for subsequent posters).

I dunno what version I have or whether it’s online.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sinatra-centennial/740197/6 "2015-12-11T21:46:38Z")

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Among all his work, this has got to be my favorite:

[- YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oCSdlxcPww) :o

Followed maybe by this one:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/GUBMj6xZ3MU?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=RD6oCSdlxcPww

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sinatra-centennial/740197/7 "2015-12-11T22:03:42Z")

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My faves are his 1 1/2 Brazilian influenced albums…especially the first Francis Albert Sinatra and Antonio Carlos Jobim.

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**Author:** ![McGuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@McGuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/McGuffy)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sinatra-centennial/740197/8 "2015-12-12T00:38:51Z")

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My favorite is “All the Way” from “The Joker is Wild”:  
[All The Way - Frank Sinatra - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWMbuBXiJeg)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sinatra-centennial/740197/9 "2015-12-12T04:02:03Z")

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> [@blondebear](#):
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> Too many to choose just one, but for this thread I’ll go with I\*'ve Got You Under My Skin\* (from the ‘87 Songs For Swingin’ Lovers CD, not the remastered reissue)…

> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> I dunno what version I have or whether it’s online.

Check around on YouTube. It’s probably there.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sinatra-centennial/740197/10 "2015-12-12T06:09:19Z")

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His work with Nelson Riddle at Columbia Records was arguably his best work. Sinatra and Riddle respected each other immensely, and Riddle’s orchestration complemented Sinatra’s style perfectly.

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sinatra-centennial/740197/11 "2015-12-12T09:01:31Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> His work with Nelson Riddle at Columbia Records was arguably his best work. Sinatra and Riddle respected each other immensely, and Riddle’s orchestration complemented Sinatra’s style perfectly.

Nitpick: It was\* Capitol \*Records. Sinatra, at the end of his contract with Columbia, was definitely not happy with the label and the cheesy songs head honcho Mitch Miller was making him record.

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**Author:** ![turner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/22d042/32.png) [@turner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/turner)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sinatra-centennial/740197/12 "2015-12-12T12:54:22Z")

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“Fly me to the moon”. I didn’t grow up in this era, but Frank, Bing and Dino are among my favorites. They all used their voices as instruments. I don’t know how to explain that, but its different from just singing words to a melody. Their voices “moved” in the songs. Its not about range either, its not like singers now who try to prove they can sing by screaching high notes. Also, and this probably wasn’t them, but the musical arranger, but they knew when to let the band take the lead to enhance the song. It wasn’t all about them. Great music.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sinatra-centennial/740197/13 "2015-12-12T13:36:47Z")

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> [@blondebear](#):
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> Too many to choose just one, but for this thread I’ll go with I\*'ve Got You Under My Skin\* (from the ‘87 Songs For Swingin’ Lovers CD, not the remastered reissue)…

> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> I dunno what version I have or whether it’s online.

> [@Chefguy](#):
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> His work with Nelson Riddle at Columbia Records was arguably his best work. Sinatra and Riddle respected each other immensely, and Riddle’s orchestration complemented Sinatra’s style perfectly.

[Frank Sinatra - I’ve got you under my skin](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XCVnV5CGh0)

Not just favorite Sinatra, favorite recording! Kicks major ass! 🙂

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sinatra-centennial/740197/14 "2015-12-12T13:37:34Z")

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So much respect. I listen to Songs for Only the Lonely and Songs for Swingin’ Lovers - so good.

There is a great article in the NYTimes this morning. They discuss how The Great American Songbook - i.e., taking Broadway show tunes and singing them standalone - emerged from Sintra’s work with Nelson Riddle and Ella Fitzgerald’s American Songbook series.

As they say in the article, he was a man if full. As I used to see on jokey buttons you could pin on your jacket “It’s Sinatra’s world; we only live on it.”

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sinatra-centennial/740197/15 "2015-12-12T13:59:40Z")

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I’ll go with “Come Fly With Me.”

I respect Sinatra – he was a great singer – but I find his style offputting, and his versions of Cole Porter are always painful to listen to.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sinatra-centennial/740197/16 "2015-12-12T14:44:53Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> I’ll go with “Come Fly With Me.”
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> I respect Sinatra – he was a great singer – but I find his style offputting, and his versions of Cole Porter are always painful to listen to.

Not surprising. Cole Porter was a brilliant _groovemeister_ - his lyrics needed to be grooved to fit his rhythms, especially for his densely-worded songs. Sinatra was all about interpretation and pulling out of the groove when he wanted his emotions to stand out vs. the music.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sinatra-centennial/740197/17 "2015-12-12T15:52:47Z")

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Quincy Jones wrote that Sinatra was the best there was ay finding the emotional heart of a song. Love his sad songs.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sinatra-centennial/740197/18 "2015-12-12T15:58:15Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Quincy Jones wrote that Sinatra was the best there was ay finding the emotional heart of a song. Love his sad songs.

Best man at it. Billie Holliday was the best woman, and, well to me, ever.

In the NYTimes article I reference above, they discuss how Sinatra would ferry in from Hoboken to see his idol, Billie Holliday. They were the same age, but she had already become famous.

Fascinating to think how he took her fragile-but-strong intimacy and brought it to his Man in Full persona. So brilliant.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sinatra-centennial/740197/19 "2015-12-12T15:58:58Z")

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> [@NDP](#):
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> Nitpick: It was\* Capitol \*Records. Sinatra, at the end of his contract with Columbia, was definitely not happy with the label and the cheesy songs head honcho Mitch Miller was making him record.

Jeez, what a brain fart that was.

The San Francisco jazz station was playing Sinatra nonstop yesterday, going way back to when he was trying to be just another smooth crooner with Harry James, and hadn’t yet developed his distinctive style.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sinatra-centennial/740197/20 "2015-12-12T16:03:16Z")

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Sinatra and Glenn Miller; one of my all-time favorite songs:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/nAMwla1YT0Y/maxresdefault.jpg "Aldo Blaga - Moonlight Serenade") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAMwla1YT0Y)

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