# Since I can't replace my windows should I caulk them?

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**Created:** [February 27, 2015, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-i-cant-replace-my-windows-should-i-caulk-them/713747 "2015-02-27T04:38:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
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I don’t mean from the outside like you do when you install them - I mean should I just attack them sumbitches with a caulk gun - caulk all around where the glass meets the wood and where wood meets other wood?

So. My house was build in 1928 and the windows are original. I live in a historic district which makes replacing windows ridiculously impossible for reasons I do not understand, and plus I am not made out of money. However, I am paying for a lot of heat to wander out the windows. I have used heat shrink film over the ones in the nursery and might do it for the bedroom ones - I did that a few years ago and it did make a difference but obviously is not permanent.

However, for most of the house the cats are a factor, plus the film is really only good for a season. Would it help if I tried caulking all around the joints of the windows elsewhere in the house as outlined above? Would it be worth it? I can’t really tell if we’re getting drafts or if we’re just getting cold through the windows.

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-i-cant-replace-my-windows-should-i-caulk-them/713747/2 "2015-02-27T05:46:54Z")

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cold from radiation through the windows you will feel, with the back of your hand towards the window a few inches away, anywhere near the center of the window.

cold from a draft you will feel, on a windy day on the hair on the back of your hand, near the window cracks.

where window meets glass you can use putty or very thin bead of caulk.

where wood meets wood you can use rope caulk (it is a dry slightly sticky rope of clay like caulk) this you can remove and maybe reuse. it allows the windows to be used in summer.

having a draft reduces the effectiveness of the film.

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I am sure that you should plug any holes, but could you not use a more elegant solution than plastic film like this [Internal Double Glazing](http://www.theplasticpeople.co.uk/category/products-double-glazing-kits/products). I assume that there is an American equivalent.

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-i-cant-replace-my-windows-should-i-caulk-them/713747/4 "2015-02-27T15:00:49Z")

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also in rooms where daylight is not needed or at night using heavy drapes will lessen radiation loses.

if you really have a heat loss then even consider a window quilt.

plugging holes and window film are a needed first step…

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-i-cant-replace-my-windows-should-i-caulk-them/713747/5 "2015-02-27T15:35:14Z")

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They sell plastic film for windows. I love this product. Cuts out all the cold drafts and cut our heating bills by $35 a month. We saw our AC bills go down $50 a month. We used to need a sweater just to sit in our den. Not anymore.

scroll down to see photos of the installation. Anyone with a hairdryer can do this. We bought these kits at Home Depot.

> **[3M Indoor Window Insulation Kit, Insulator Kit for 5 - 3'x5' Windows -...](https://www.amazon.com/3M-Indoor-Window-Insulator-5-Window/dp/B00002NCJI)**
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> Product Description Available in a variety of indoor and outdoor window sizes. 3M Window Insulator Kits keep cold drafts out and warm air in through heat shrink window film and Scotch Window Film Mounting Tape. 3M window kits have the...

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-i-cant-replace-my-windows-should-i-caulk-them/713747/6 "2015-02-27T16:03:53Z")

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God, I swear people don’t ever read OPs. I can’t use the film on windows where the cats go, because cats. I thought I’d mentioned but didn’t, that the windows are entirely unopenable. They’ve been painted shut. They’ve been nailed shut. They’ve had the cords cut. Whoever had this house before me wanted to make damned sure that none of these windows would EVER open. So a permanent solution is fine.

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-i-cant-replace-my-windows-should-i-caulk-them/713747/7 "2015-02-27T16:20:14Z")

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Yes you can caulk them. Anything you can do to reduce draft will help.  
They will still be incredibly inefficient.  
Beyond the glass they have an uninsalated column in the wall to the left and right.  
Curtains would be my suggestion. The heavier thermal ones. Even those can get expensive when doing a whole house, but certainly cheaper than replacement windows.

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Don’t forget to check light switches & plug-in connections.

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**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-i-cant-replace-my-windows-should-i-caulk-them/713747/9 "2015-02-27T16:41:51Z")

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Are storm windows an option? Heavy curtains are great at night but most people would like to let some light in during the day.

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-i-cant-replace-my-windows-should-i-caulk-them/713747/10 "2015-02-27T16:58:26Z")

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Caulking will help. But it does absolutely nothing to stop the air penetration from the vintage single pane glass. Only a interior storm window or film will fix that problem. There are companies that make custom fit interior storm windows. They pop right into place. [photo](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/69/18/39/6918395a4ec10d32ef33b86c6396b55f.jpg) They won’t bother the cats or historical society.

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-i-cant-replace-my-windows-should-i-caulk-them/713747/11 "2015-02-27T16:59:03Z")

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> [@SmellMyWort](#):
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> Are storm windows an option? Heavy curtains are great at night but most people would like to let some light in during the day.

Not in a historic district. Windows are always a big deal with historic preservation, I understand the OP’s frustration. I could buy a new house for less than some people spend on historic window rebuilds.

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-i-cant-replace-my-windows-should-i-caulk-them/713747/12 "2015-02-27T19:07:24Z")

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You could look into interior window inserts. They basically just fit into the window frame over top of the existing window, like the window film but more permanent. It will cost considerably more than a few tubes of caulk, but significantly less than replacement windows. I’ve only read about them but it’s an option to investigate.

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I used to live in a 1920’s art deco block of flats in London. These flats were grade 2 listed which effectively meant that the owner could not alter the external appearance in any way. While I lived there the whole block changed hands and the new owners spent (in todays terms) £millions refurbishing the somewhat dilapidated building

All the windows were steel framed [Crittall](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crittall_Windows) fixtures which had been allowed to go rusty and had gaps you could push a finger in. The new owners added insulation to the solid concrete walls and interior double glazing with sliding panels. This was fine by the authorities as it was not a structural change.

The house I now live in has double glazing on most windows. For some reason a large, non-opening window in the hall was left out. About ten years ago I fixed that heat shrunk plastic sheeting over it and in spite of the instructions saying that it should only last one or two seasons - it still looks fine. We don’t have cats, but two children managed to resist poking it.

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If these are nice wood windows that are stained and finished then look into having them rebuilt. If they’re painted over pieces of crap then calk away.

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**Post date:** [February 28, 2015, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-i-cant-replace-my-windows-should-i-caulk-them/713747/16 "2015-02-28T05:57:23Z")

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It isn’t hard to fix up the old windows to make them tighter. They have been working for 90 years already and with some work will continue to work well for another 90. Replacing the ropes, reglazing the windows and adding bronze weather strips will take about 4-6 hours tops. Any you will have windows that work and should keep you warmer.

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**Post date:** [February 28, 2015, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-i-cant-replace-my-windows-should-i-caulk-them/713747/17 "2015-02-28T14:59:15Z")

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They’re painted over - no idea if they’re pieces of crap or not.

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**Post date:** [February 28, 2015, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-i-cant-replace-my-windows-should-i-caulk-them/713747/18 "2015-02-28T17:17:40Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Caulking will help. But it does absolutely nothing to stop the air penetration from the vintage single pane glass. Only a interior storm window or film will fix that problem. There are companies that make custom fit interior storm windows. They pop right into place. [photo](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/69/18/39/6918395a4ec10d32ef33b86c6396b55f.jpg) They won’t bother the cats or historical society.

This seems like something you could DIY pretty cheaply, too. Tack a piece of small trim around the window frame, get a piece of glass cut with the edges sanded, and pop it in in the winter, remove in the summer. I bet you could do it for about $40 a window.

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**Post date:** [February 28, 2015, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-i-cant-replace-my-windows-should-i-caulk-them/713747/19 "2015-02-28T18:10:33Z")

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Glazing a window is a little different than caulking and it is certainly worth doing. It is, however, a lot of work, especially if your windows are the six over six type. In looking at all the instructions on the web for doing this, they all have you removing the sash from the window and removing each pane of glass. You aren’t likely to do this, although you may consider hiring someone to do it, esp on the south side of the house. When I did it, I left the sash in the window and did the best I could. ([This](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O6ZsKdw8IE)is what I basically did, though not as neat).

One thing you might consider before doing anything is getting an energy audit on your house. What they did for me was to put a fan in the front door and find the significant air leakages using a smoke stick.

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**Post date:** [February 28, 2015, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-i-cant-replace-my-windows-should-i-caulk-them/713747/20 "2015-02-28T21:37:17Z")

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> [@Renee](#):
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> This seems like something you could DIY pretty cheaply, too. Tack a piece of small trim around the window frame, get a piece of glass cut with the edges sanded, and pop it in in the winter, remove in the summer. I bet you could do it for about $40 a window.

yeah, its a very, very easy DIY. measure the window. give yourself a bit of wiggle room to get it in. if the window opening is 32 inches, get the glass shop to cut it at 31 3/4. that 1/4 actually gives a 1/8 gap on each side.

nail[painted door stop moulding](http://tommydsonline.com/web/images/stories/molding3/_j.jpg_td.jpg) in place with a few small finish nails.

run a \*thin \*bead of clear silicon around the edge of the moulding. insert glass and gently press into silicon.  
hold it a couple mins.

that will hold it and it will be very air tight.

if you want to remove the glass later. skip the silicon. use a second moulding to sandwich the glass in place.

takes maybe one afternoon to do 5 or 6 windows. I’d cut and install the moulding while my wife went to the glass shop. We’d install the glass when she got back. two pairs of hands make it easier and safer to handle the glass.

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