# Since Nov: (R) favorability stable. (D) drops

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-nov-r-favorability-stable-d-drops/786872>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 17, 2017, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-nov-r-favorability-stable-d-drops/786872 "2017-05-17T21:59:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-nov-r-favorability-stable-d-drops/786872/21 "2017-05-18T13:33:39Z")

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"I didn’t think the leopard would eat MY face"ism.

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-nov-r-favorability-stable-d-drops/786872/22 "2017-05-18T14:16:25Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> Yes but ‘the anti-trump hysterics effect’ would imply that independents and republicans are developing a negative image of the democratic party.

Why? You don’t think some Democrats can get disgusted at the Bircher-like hysterical stridency of the Democratic party?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-nov-r-favorability-stable-d-drops/786872/23 "2017-05-18T14:26:01Z")

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A single poll can be an outlier, and therefore doesn’t mean much. The aggregate polling doesn’t show the story the OP wants to tell, and thus there’s really nothing to debate here.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-nov-r-favorability-stable-d-drops/786872/24 "2017-05-18T14:27:30Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> Why? You don’t think some Democrats can get disgusted at the Bircher-like hysterical stridency of the Democratic party?

Do you really feel like you’re the best choice for an insight into the Democrat mind? The Gallup article gives a reasonable idea why the Dems might be less happy with the party: they got creamed in the election. That’s a better guess than Dem party members think they’re being too mean to Trump.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-nov-r-favorability-stable-d-drops/786872/25 "2017-05-18T14:40:10Z")

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It doesn’t look to me like Democratic polling numbers are down because Democrats aren’t being nice enough to Herr Trump.

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> House Democrats have already raised more money in online contributions this year ahead of the midterms than they did during all of 2015, the most recently comparable year, a Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee official told NBC News.
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> The unusual fundraising haul is the latest sign that President Donald Trump is motivating Democrats in extraordinary ways as the party looks to win back the 24 seats it needs to retake the House of Representatives in next year’s midterm elections and put Rep. Nancy Pelosi back in the Speaker’s chair.

[Link](http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/democrats-vs-trump/house-dems-smash-fundraising-records-ahead-midterms-n761466)

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-nov-r-favorability-stable-d-drops/786872/26 "2017-05-18T14:43:56Z")

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First “Neo-McCarthyism” and now “Bircherism”. Interesting that some of the worst historical behaviors of the Republican party are now being projected onto the Democrats.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-nov-r-favorability-stable-d-drops/786872/27 "2017-05-18T15:16:25Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> First “Neo-McCarthyism” and now “Bircherism”. Interesting that some of the worst historical behaviors of the Republican party are now being projected onto the Democrats.

I can’t wait for Dems to be accused of Reaganism.

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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-nov-r-favorability-stable-d-drops/786872/28 "2017-05-18T15:19:09Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> Why? You don’t think some Democrats can get disgusted at the Bircher-like hysterical stridency of the Democratic party?

Well, first you would have to establish that there is indeed hysterical stridency from the Democratic party in the real world, not just in your fantasy makin’-shit-up right-wing media bubble. And second, there is no second, you would never get past first.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-nov-r-favorability-stable-d-drops/786872/29 "2017-05-18T15:23:29Z")

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You see this one:

> **[How Popular Is Donald Trump?](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/)**
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> FiveThirtyEight is tracking Donald Trump’s approval ratings throughout his presidency.

😃

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-nov-r-favorability-stable-d-drops/786872/30 "2017-05-18T15:28:47Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> Why? You don’t think some Democrats can get disgusted at the Bircher-like hysterical stridency of the Democratic party?

\*Disgusted \*by it? This is the first I’ve heard of it!

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-nov-r-favorability-stable-d-drops/786872/31 "2017-05-18T15:32:41Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> Why? You don’t think some Democrats can get disgusted at the Bircher-like hysterical stridency of the Democratic party?

It’s likelier that they’re angry at all the hoop skirts Democrats are wearing these days, or at the fact that Democrats insist on conducting all their business in ancient Sumerian, or that most Democratic leaders eat only squids for lunch.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-nov-r-favorability-stable-d-drops/786872/32 "2017-05-18T16:30:25Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> Why? You don’t think some Democrats can get disgusted at the Bircher-like hysterical stridency of the Democratic party?

Why did Trump select a Bircher [to his Cabinet?](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/senate-set-to-question-trumps-pentagon-pick-veteran-marine-gen-james-mattis/2017/01/11/b3c6946a-d816-11e6-9a36-1d296534b31e_story.html?utm_term=.a06dc61c37f0)

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-nov-r-favorability-stable-d-drops/786872/33 "2017-05-18T16:31:21Z")

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Wait - there are still Birchers?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-nov-r-favorability-stable-d-drops/786872/34 "2017-05-18T16:36:52Z")

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Birch, please!

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-nov-r-favorability-stable-d-drops/786872/35 "2017-05-18T16:48:38Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> Why? You don’t think some Democrats can get disgusted at the Bircher-like hysterical stridency of the Democratic party?

But the Republicans like it? (hence the +1% gain among Republicans).

Pull the other one Okrahoma its got bells on it.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-nov-r-favorability-stable-d-drops/786872/36 "2017-05-18T17:30:50Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Why did Trump select a Bircher [to his Cabinet?](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/senate-set-to-question-trumps-pentagon-pick-veteran-marine-gen-james-mattis/2017/01/11/b3c6946a-d816-11e6-9a36-1d296534b31e_story.html?utm_term=.a06dc61c37f0)

Spirit of bipartisanship?

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**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-nov-r-favorability-stable-d-drops/786872/37 "2017-05-18T17:33:10Z")

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This is totally cool. **Okrahoma** , please keep on keepin’ on.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-nov-r-favorability-stable-d-drops/786872/38 "2017-05-18T17:58:23Z")

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> [@Randolph](#):
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> This is totally cool. **Okrahoma** , please keep on keepin’ on.

We can bet on that. The worst things get for Trump, the more **Okrahoma** will try to portray Democrats as also having a bad time. Some of the next arrows in his quiver:

**Nancy Pelosi isn’t even from SF, she’s a carpetbagger!**  
**Senator Chris Coons got gum on his shoe – what’s wrong with him?**  
**Ted Kennedy: he’s still dead**  
**Bernie Sanders neighbors: he doesn’t keep up with his mowing!**

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-nov-r-favorability-stable-d-drops/786872/39 "2017-05-18T18:05:11Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> **…**  
> **Ted Kennedy: he’s still dead**  
> **…**

Wait. How is that a negative for the Democrats?

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-nov-r-favorability-stable-d-drops/786872/40 "2017-05-18T19:57:14Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Wait. How is that a negative for the Democrats?

It proves that he was not the Messiah!

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