# Since Reeder isn't here....

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-reeder-isnt-here/332223>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 22, 2005, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-reeder-isnt-here/332223 "2005-11-22T08:29:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-reeder-isnt-here/332223/1 "2005-11-22T08:29:26Z")

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[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4454738.stm](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4454738.stm)

Ok, it’s a cheap shot. And the picture is an even cheaper shot. But given his tendency to run away from the press…or anyone who might question his action…it a funny cheap shot.

R.I.P. Reeder 🙂

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-reeder-isnt-here/332223/2 "2005-11-22T10:41:42Z")

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The picture is a bit funny, I admit, but this would be silly even for **Reeder**.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-reeder-isnt-here/332223/3 "2005-11-22T10:51:58Z")

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I’m no lover of Bush but I think it’s clear from the story that he was making fun of himself when the picture was taken. Hence his exaggerated facial expression. I don’t see this picture as particularly embarrassing. It shows a human, humorous side.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-reeder-isnt-here/332223/4 "2005-11-22T10:53:08Z")

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> [@Priceguy](#):
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> The picture is a bit funny, I admit, but this would be silly even for **Reeder**.

No, it wouldn’t, and that’s the tragedy of Reeder. He would have considered this Pulitzer-worthy.

Personally, I find the video mildly comical, but not foolish. Anyone in that situation might behave as Bush did; laugh it off, carry on.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-reeder-isnt-here/332223/5 "2005-11-22T13:19:41Z")

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[Insert “Bush needs an exit strategy” joke here.]

😃

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-reeder-isnt-here/332223/6 "2005-11-22T13:25:12Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> [Insert “Bush needs an exit strategy” joke here.]

OK, _that_ was funny.

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**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-reeder-isnt-here/332223/7 "2005-11-22T13:31:22Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> [Insert “Bush needs an exit strategy” joke here.]
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> 😃

😃 I hadn’t even thought of that.  
Anyway there’s a reason I made this a homage to Reeder. It’s not that this is evidence that Bush is stupid…or evidence of anything other than a human faux pas. It’s just in light of his tendency to run away from the press that it becomes mildly amusing.

In fact it may be more MPSIMS but I put it here because it’s what Reeder would have wanted 🙂 .

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-reeder-isnt-here/332223/8 "2005-11-22T13:35:06Z")

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\*\*Since Reeder isn’t here… \*\*  
I hope this isn’t the beginning of a trend. Next thing you know, someone will post right-wing glurge and say “ **December** would have wanted it this way…”

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**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-reeder-isnt-here/332223/9 "2005-11-22T14:04:31Z")

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Oh dear. No I didn’t intend it as a trend. That could get ugly.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-reeder-isnt-here/332223/10 "2005-11-22T15:15:31Z")

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> [@betenoir](#):
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> Oh dear. No I didn’t intend it as a trend. That could get ugly.

No worries – **nonpolar** the mod would close the thread.

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**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-reeder-isnt-here/332223/11 "2005-11-22T15:26:56Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> [Insert “Bush needs an exit strategy” joke here.]
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> 😃

Jay Leno used the “exit strategy” line to good effect on the _Tonight Show_ last night.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-reeder-isnt-here/332223/12 "2005-11-22T16:53:43Z")

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Much as I can’t stand the Shrub, I empathize with his plight here. Happened to me once. Except the “press” was on the other side of the door waiting for me, and the door had a spotlight on it. It would have been embarassing had it not been so fucking funny.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-reeder-isnt-here/332223/13 "2005-11-22T22:05:39Z")

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Yup, this is truely **Reederiffic** material…almost sock-worthy for him to come back and post this if he’s lurking. If Bush had [stuck his tongue out](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=267476&highlight=tongue), then it would have been a double delight for him.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-reeder-isnt-here/332223/14 "2005-11-22T22:40:52Z")

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This is the leader of our country.

\<sigh\>

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**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-reeder-isnt-here/332223/15 "2005-11-22T23:45:40Z")

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> [@World Eater](#):
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> This is the leader of our country.
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> \<sigh\>

That’s sarcasm, right? “lol, i h8 teh bsuh” stuff, right?

Right?

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-reeder-isnt-here/332223/16 "2005-11-22T23:56:16Z")

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> [@Wolfian](#):
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> That’s sarcasm, right? “lol, i h8 teh bsuh” stuff, right?
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> Right?

Why would it be sarcasm? Look, I know Bush wasn’t at fault for the door being locked, and the entire episode was simply an accident. That said though, this guy has a knack at appearing to be a bumbling idiot. It’s natural that with different presidents, we’ll have some that appear sharper then others. Didn’t Gerald Ford have a sort of clueless apprearance as well?

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-reeder-isnt-here/332223/17 "2005-11-23T00:34:12Z")

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> [@World Eater](#):
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> Why would it be sarcasm? Look, I know Bush wasn’t at fault for the door being locked, and the entire episode was simply an accident. That said though, this guy has a knack at appearing to be a bumbling idiot. It’s natural that with different presidents, we’ll have some that appear sharper then others. Didn’t Gerald Ford have a sort of clueless apprearance as well?

I bet if we shined a media spotlight on you (or me) damn near 24 hours a day, it would be damn easy to highlight one or two minor incidents and make you (or me) look like a complete bumbling idiot. Like him or not, the man is human, which means he’s going to make his fair share of trips, falls, mistakes and faux pas. Yesterday I walked into the screen door, last week I dropped a pen and whammed my head on the table when I bent down to pick it up. EVERYBODY does these kinds of things, all the time. President Bush simply has the misfortune of being on camera all the time when he’s not in a private setting, providing grist for the rumor and muckraking mill.

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**Author:** ![lonesome\_loser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c68b51/32.png) [@lonesome\_loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lonesome_loser)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-reeder-isnt-here/332223/18 "2005-11-23T00:44:47Z")

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I think he made the best of a possibly embarrassing situation.

Pit his policies, not the man.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-reeder-isnt-here/332223/19 "2005-11-23T00:45:21Z")

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> [@betenoir](#):
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> Oh dear. No I didn’t intend it as a trend. That could get ugly.

So, you should be able to do this sort of thing, but no one else? Sounds like something Bush would be Pitted for…

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**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-reeder-isnt-here/332223/20 "2005-11-23T00:55:02Z")

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> [@lonesome loser](#):
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> I think he made the best of a possibly embarrassing situation.
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> Pit his policies, not the man.

Yea, and verily.

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