# “Since we’re both goners, there’s a few things I’d like to tell you.”

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 21, 2006, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544 "2006-08-21T03:13:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/21 "2006-08-22T21:42:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Nonsuch]  
Tom Paris and B’elanna Torres had some godawful “I’ve always loved you!” moment on _Voyager_ when they were trapped in open space and their air was about to run out.

Amusingly, on _Next Generation_, there were two seperate occasions where Dr. Crusher and Picard were faced with imminent death. In both situations Dr. Crusher said something like, “Jean-Luc, there’s something I want to tell you in case we don’t get out of this,” but both times they were abruptly rescued and she never actually got to tell him anything.  
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We know, via the last episode, that they marry and divorce.

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/22 "2006-08-22T23:51:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Gordon Urquhart]  
I think the scene in \*Aliens \* (spoilered for the three people on this board who haven’t seen it)

in which Vasquez and Gorman meet their end, knowing they’re going to die but willing to make amends right before they do,

was very powerful – a touch of poignancy in a movie which, at that point in the film, is literally screaming with action.  
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A touch of poignancy?

Dude, she tells him he’s an asshole! 😃

🆒

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/23 "2006-08-23T02:04:49Z")

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[QUOTE=ouryL]

We know, via the last episode, that they marry and divorce.

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The future portrayed in _All Good Things…_ was an alternate timeline.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/24 "2006-08-23T02:11:28Z")

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[QUOTE=Aesiron]  
The future portrayed in _All Good Things…_ was an alternate timeline.  
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I don’t agree that it was even that, though it certainly was not the definite future of the Enterprise-D crew; it directly contradicts everything from after the first TNG movie. At any rate, I think the future Picard saw in the series finale was no more than a hallucination or illusion arranged by Q. It is self-contradictory otherwise.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/25 "2006-08-23T03:05:51Z")

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I don’t remember the future shown in _All Good Things…_ being so wildly different that it would be a hallucination or illusion. The Federation’s non-existence in _The City on the Edge of Forever_, the Klingon-Federation war in _Yesterday’s Enterprise_, the Klingon-Cardassian Union in the \*Crossover \* et al, the year of hell in _Year of Hell_, and the temporal clusterfuck that was \*Enterprise \*were all more extreme in their divergence than it was and they’re all accepted as alternate timelines or parallel universes.

Was there even anything in _All Good Things…_ that directly contradicted _Generations_? If not, the point of divergence could have been as simple as the Enterprise-D not being destroyed in orbit of Veridian III.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/26 "2006-08-23T04:34:22Z")

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Don’t forget this classic:  
Smithers: I’ve always loved you, sir.  
Burns: Well, Smithers, thanks for making my last moments on Earth socially awkward.

And there’s the final minutes of the final episode of Black Adder. Not recommended for those looking for a few laughs.

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**Author:** ![don\_Jaime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b4bc9f/32.png) [@don\_Jaime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_Jaime)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/27 "2006-08-23T04:49:15Z")

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We’ll go to Australia. They speak English there. And the banks are easy.

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**Author:** ![YPOD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e99b99/32.png) [@YPOD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YPOD)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/28 "2006-08-23T14:01:07Z")

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There was a TV series on the Holocaust about 20 years ago, and two of the characters, a doctor and his former patient, are being led to their execution. The doctor says he always thought his companion was a good patient. The patient responds by saying something like thank you, I always tried to follow your advice, watched my diet, etc. The doctor cuts him off and says “No, I meant you always paid your bill on tme.”

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**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/29 "2006-08-23T15:45:15Z")

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Bad, just due to cheese factor:

“Flash, Flash I love you! But we only have 14 hours to save the Earth!”

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/30 "2006-08-23T17:15:21Z")

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On _Get Smart_ Agent 86 proposed to Agent 99 when he thought they were both about to be killed by the bad guys. Afterwards he wanted to just forget the whole thing, since they had survived, but 99 believed the proposal and accepted it, so they ended up getting married.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/31 "2006-08-23T20:19:01Z")

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[QUOTE=SpoilerVirgin]  
On _Get Smart_ Agent 86 proposed to Agent 99 when he thought they were both about to be killed by the bad guys. Afterwards he wanted to just forget the whole thing, since they had survived, but 99 believed the proposal and accepted it, so they ended up getting married.  
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99: Max, you called me Earnestine!

86: I know. I, uh…

99: Too bad that’s not my name!

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/32 "2006-08-23T21:29:57Z")

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I love when Melanie is on her deathbed and Scarlett finally realizes that she loves her. Melanie was the only true friend she ever had.

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/33 "2006-08-24T02:24:11Z")

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Return of the King

\*\*Frodo plops down on the rock and lies on his back.]

Frodo: I can see the Shire, the Brandywine River. Bag End. Gandalf’s fireworks, the lights in the Party Tree.

Sam: Rosie Cotton dancing. She had ribbons in her hair. If ever I was to marry someone, it would have been her. [He cries.]  
It would have been her!

[Frodo puts his arms around Sam and holds him close, dripping tears.]

Frodo: I’m glad to be with you, Samwise Gamgee, here at the end of all things.\*\*

Then they make out.

Just kidding!

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**Author:** ![teemingONE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b4bc9f/32.png) [@teemingONE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teemingONE)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/34 "2006-08-24T05:21:47Z")

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[QUOTE=don Jaime]  
We’ll go to Australia. They speak English there. And the banks are easy.  
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I almost teared at that.

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**Author:** ![Boulter\_s\_Canary](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Boulter\_s\_Canary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boulter_s_Canary)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/35 "2006-08-24T22:10:11Z")

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**The Man Who Would Be King** :-

“Peachy, I’m heartily ashamed for gettin’ you killed instead of going home rich like you deserved to, on account of me bein’ so bleedin’ high and bloody mighty. Can you forgive me?”  
“That I can and that I do, Danny, free and full and without let or hindrance.”  
“Everything’s all right then.”

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**Author:** ![coffeecat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coffeecat/32/3405_2.png) [@coffeecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coffeecat)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/36 "2006-08-25T10:58:25Z")

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**Airplane!**

“I’ve never been with a horse before . . .”

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**Author:** ![Myron\_Van\_Horowitzski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Myron\_Van\_Horowitzski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myron_Van_Horowitzski)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/37 "2006-08-25T19:51:32Z")

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[QUOTE=EJsGirl]  
A touch of poignancy?

Dude, she tells him he’s an asshole! 😃

🆒  
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Hah. From Vasquez, it’s a term of endearment. I liked the way they clinked their grenades together after they pulled the pins.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/38 "2006-08-25T20:03:55Z")

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I don’t remember them clinking the grenades together; I just remember them wrapping their hands around each other on the same grenade.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/39 "2006-08-25T20:05:50Z")

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And, and I should add, a favorite such scene. The two characters who are to be executed at the end of _Breaker Morant_ silently hold hands as they’re walking out on the field. Just before the fatal volley, Morant shouts to the firing squad, “Shoot straight, you bastards! Don’t make a mess of it!”

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**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/40 "2006-08-25T22:25:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
And, and I should add, a favorite such scene. The two characters who are to be executed at the end of _Breaker Morant_ silently hold hands as they’re walking out on the field. Just before the fatal volley, Morant shouts to the firing squad, “Shoot straight, you bastards! Don’t make a mess of it!”  
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Gah! I was JUST NOW coming to post that one! More poignant to realize that, to Morant, up until that point, _everything_ his judge, jury, and executioners had done was a ‘mess’.

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