# “Since we’re both goners, there’s a few things I’d like to tell you.” **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 21, 2006, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544 "2006-08-21T03:13:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/41 "2006-08-25T23:53:15Z")
[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir] I don’t remember them clinking the grenades together; I just remember them wrapping their hands around each other on the same grenade. [/QUOTE] Yes- IIRC, Gorman pulls the pin on his, she wraps her hands around it and holds it close to her chest. Gorman is cradling her at the time because she got sprayed with alien blood. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2006, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/42 "2006-08-26T04:14:23Z")
[QUOTE=ArrMatey!] Gah! I was JUST NOW coming to post that one! More poignant to realize that, to Morant, up until that point, _everything_ his judge, jury, and executioners had done was a ‘mess’. [/QUOTE] An excellent point. I’d never thought of that before, but you’re right. God, I love that movie. I saw it 20+ years ago and it’s stuck with me. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2006, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/43 "2006-08-26T13:59:32Z")
(Sorry, I don’t remember the characters’ names) While Richard Gere’s character in “Unfaithful” wasn’t necessasrily going to die, he was most certainly going to go to the pokey for a long, long time. The final scene, as he and Diane Lane were sitting in the car at the traffic light in front of the police station, knowing that these were their final moments together… :😭: ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2006, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/44 "2006-08-26T15:43:49Z")
[QUOTE=PunditLisa] (Sorry, I don’t remember the characters’ names) While Richard Gere’s character in “Unfaithful” wasn’t necessasrily going to die, he was most certainly going to go to the pokey for a long, long time. The final scene, as he and Diane Lane were sitting in the car at the traffic light in front of the police station, knowing that these were their final moments together… :😭: [/QUOTE] Hmm…I’m not sure he was going to the jail. The scene was intentionally ambivalent as to their ultimate plans, but they certainly weren’t about to surrender him right there. Their pre-teen son was sleeping in the back seat, remember? ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2006, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/45 "2006-08-26T18:32:36Z")
Skald, after watching the movie, I was pretty sure he was going to turn himself in. There were no other alternatives because he didn’t want to live life on the lam. But the alternate ending, which was on the DVD, made it perfectly clear as he actually entered the police station. I might be confusing the two versions. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2006, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/46 "2006-08-26T23:37:24Z")
Squidward: “No matter what I’ve said Spongebob, I’ve always kinda liked you\*.” Spongebob Squarepants: “Squidward, I use your Clarinet to unclog my toilet!”. \*That’s in a best friend type of way. Nothing sexual. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2006, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/47 "2006-08-27T14:35:35Z")
Bethany: What the hell are you DOING? Jay: We got about five minutes left to live, the whole world’s gonna end… you said you’d fuck me. Bethany: You’re a pig. Jay: Oh, what? Nobody’s gonna beat that thing! Now we can lay here all comatose like that John Doe Jersey bastard over there, or we can get makin’ with the love. Dogma ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2006, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/48 "2006-08-27T15:05:54Z")
[QUOTE=Aesiron] I don’t remember the future shown in _All Good Things…_ being so wildly different that it would be a hallucination or illusion. The Federation’s non-existence in _The City on the Edge of Forever_, the Klingon-Federation war in _Yesterday’s Enterprise_, the Klingon-Cardassian Union in the \*Crossover \* et al, the year of hell in _Year of Hell_, and the temporal clusterfuck that was \*Enterprise \*were all more extreme in their divergence than it was and they’re all accepted as alternate timelines or parallel universes. Was there even anything in _All Good Things…_ that directly contradicted _Generations_? If not, the point of divergence could have been as simple as the Enterprise-D not being destroyed in orbit of Veridian III. [/QUOTE] I have to agree with the Romulan here. It was a whole mess of alternate timelines. Q was using his godlike powers to move Picard’s consciousness thru several alternate timelines, each with different realities but related to each other thru the antitime rift and Q’s manipulations. What made it fit effectively into the canon of the entire franchise is Q’s statement that Humanity was still on trial. This was simply one more test. Which, in the person of Jean-Luc Picard, Humanity passed. Alternate timelines are as much of a fixture in Trek as are ships named Enterprise. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2006, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544/49 "2006-08-27T15:55:36Z")
[QUOTE=PunditLisa] I love when Melanie is on her deathbed and Scarlett finally realizes that she loves her. Melanie was the only true friend she ever had. [/QUOTE] Well, Scarlett never admitted that to Melanie. Melanie only saw the good in Scarlett, no matter what she did, and Scarlett bit her tongue so much around Melanie it’s a wonder she didn’t chomp it clean off. Toward the end, Scarlett got an inkling of her true feelings toward Melanie, that she was a mother figure to her, that she was the one person (now that her mother was dead) that she never wanted to disappoint, but it wasn’t until she died that she realized how truly alone she was. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-we-re-both-goners-there-s-a-few-things-i-d-like-to-tell-you/369544.md?page=2)