# Since when is "Mc" pronounced "Mac"? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 13, 2008, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-when-is-mc-pronounced-mac/441241 "2008-03-13T14:39:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-when-is-mc-pronounced-mac/441241/61 "2008-04-20T14:57:08Z")
I’d love to chat but I’m off down the gim to do some training! ---
**Author:** ![Cerowyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/82dd89/32.png) [@Cerowyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerowyn)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-when-is-mc-pronounced-mac/441241/62 "2008-04-20T16:20:26Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] If you were Welsh, it’d be Gorithla, more or less. [/QUOTE] Um, not the Welsh I learned. If his name was Goriddla, he’d be “Gorithla” in Welsh. The letter “ll” is not a syllable found in English, being a voiceless lateral fricative, IPA ɬ (my father was born in Llanelli, the name of which town my mother, being Scottish, cannot pronounce to this day). ---
**Author:** ![Cerowyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/82dd89/32.png) [@Cerowyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerowyn)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-when-is-mc-pronounced-mac/441241/63 "2008-04-20T16:22:29Z")
[QUOTE=GorillaMan] Amusingly, my real first name is a Welsh spelling of a name reasonably common in its English form 🙂 Combined with a very non-Welsh surname, I’m one of those people who can get any username or email address they want without tagging on a load of extra characters. [/QUOTE] Perhaps you and I should compare notes one day. I am in precisely the same situation. ---
**Author:** ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-when-is-mc-pronounced-mac/441241/64 "2008-04-20T17:15:09Z")
[QUOTE=Gary Kumquat] With respect to McKie , it’s a sept of Mackay, so traces back to Mac Aoidh, [/QUOTE] There’s a Mackay street in downtown Montreal - it was years before I learned that when people were referring to “Mack-I” street, it was the one I’d been thinking of as “Ma-K”. I got over it. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-when-is-mc-pronounced-mac/441241/65 "2008-04-20T17:33:34Z")
[QUOTE=TroubleAgain] That may be so, but Jurdan’s a common enough pronunciation of Jordan, in the South. I don’t have any idea why. 😕 [/QUOTE] It is? I’ve never heard Jordan pronounced in any way other than how the country’s name is pronounced and have lived all but two years in the South. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-when-is-mc-pronounced-mac/441241/66 "2008-04-20T21:25:35Z")
[QUOTE=Aesiron] It is? I’ve never heard Jordan pronounced in any way other than how the country’s name is pronounced and have lived all but two years in the South. [/QUOTE] One of Jimmy Carter’s top aides was Hamilton Jordan, pronounced like “Jurdan.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-when-is-mc-pronounced-mac/441241.md?page=3)