# Since WW2, who has been the most politcaly talented President? (Setting aside politics)

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**Created:** [January 11, 2020, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-ww2-who-has-been-the-most-politcaly-talented-president-setting-aside-politics/846271 "2020-01-11T09:32:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![jbaker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/59ef9b/32.png) [@jbaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jbaker)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-ww2-who-has-been-the-most-politcaly-talented-president-setting-aside-politics/846271/61 "2020-02-14T19:39:13Z")

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Count me another vote for LBJ. If by “politically effective” you mean the ability to carry out a political program, then Johnson shines as does no other President since FDR. There is no other post-WWII President with accomplishments to rival those of Johnson.

However, if maintaining personal popularity is an important part of the analysis, then I look instead to Reagan. He was elected by strong majorities both times, and his designated successor was elected by another convincing majority when Reagan stepped down. In addition, Reagan had one of the most consequential political programs in history, with changes in the philosophy of government that reverberate to this day and the successful management of the Cold War. Whatever you think of their domestic programs - and I personally think they were disastrous - we are lucky that Reagan and GHWB were there at the end of the Soviet Union.

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**Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-ww2-who-has-been-the-most-politcaly-talented-president-setting-aside-politics/846271/62 "2020-02-14T21:12:56Z")

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He never struck me as a particularly good politician but Dwight Eisenhower probably did the most to make the USA the supreme military superpower out of the group. His biggest accomplishment went unnoticed by the public as his role in developing the US Spy Satellite program wasn’t declassified until 1992.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-ww2-who-has-been-the-most-politcaly-talented-president-setting-aside-politics/846271/63 "2020-02-14T22:34:42Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Not to say you’re wrong, but this is news to me. Some think Nixon “should” have won Illinois and Texas. What Nixon state should JFK have won?

Nixon won California by less than 36,000 votes out of more than 6.5 million cast. I’m not alleging any kind of fraud, but there was a patchwork of blue and red areas in the central part of the state which could have gone either way.

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**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-ww2-who-has-been-the-most-politcaly-talented-president-setting-aside-politics/846271/64 "2020-02-15T22:52:43Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> No, all three of them had held elected offices before becoming President. Washington had been elected for several terms in the Virginia legislature. Jackson and Harrison had both been Senators.

I spoke of their prior government job title, not their electoral history. Washington’s prior title was General. Sorry, I erred on the other two; I must fix my presidential database. Before the presidency, Harrison’s prior title was Minister to Gran Columbia. Jackson had indeed last been a US Senator although that wasn’t his idea and he resigned before long.

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-ww2-who-has-been-the-most-politcaly-talented-president-setting-aside-politics/846271/65 "2020-02-16T03:32:02Z")

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> [@RioRico](#):
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> I spoke of their prior government job title, not their electoral history. Washington’s prior title was General. Sorry, I erred on the other two; I must fix my presidential database. Before the presidency, Harrison’s prior title was Minister to Gran Columbia. Jackson had indeed last been a US Senator although that wasn’t his idea and he resigned before long.

I tend to disagree. I feel that running for political office and winning the election is some indication of political talent.

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**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-ww2-who-has-been-the-most-politcaly-talented-president-setting-aside-politics/846271/66 "2020-02-16T03:58:16Z")

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Only Nixon could go to China.

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