# Sir Elton John: Self Righteous Git **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 11, 2008, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sir-elton-john-self-righteous-git/444902 "2008-04-11T15:03:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Genghis\_Bob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Genghis\_Bob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Genghis_Bob)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sir-elton-john-self-righteous-git/444902/21 "2008-04-11T19:50:11Z")
[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun] Then you should have said that what you wrote was just your opinion, instead of presenting it as a statement of fact. [/QUOTE] Don’t be ridiculous. This is the Pit; \*everything \* is just opinion here. ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sir-elton-john-self-righteous-git/444902/22 "2008-04-11T20:28:30Z")
[QUOTE=Genghis Bob] Don’t be ridiculous. This is the Pit; \*everything \* is just opinion here. [/QUOTE] That’s just your opinion. I’ve seen the occasional fact creep in here 😃 ---
**Author:** ![blinkingblinking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@blinkingblinking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blinkingblinking)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sir-elton-john-self-righteous-git/444902/23 "2008-04-11T20:57:27Z")
There are many reasons to pit Elton John. He is a self-righteous git. See [here](http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/04/entertainment/main647272.shtml) and [here](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3685186.stm) but the OP was lame. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sir-elton-john-self-righteous-git/444902/24 "2008-04-11T21:24:03Z")
I never really understood the need to “rate” pit threads, nor do I feel compelled to waste much time composing an OP that would merit a high rating. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sir-elton-john-self-righteous-git/444902/25 "2008-04-11T21:39:14Z")
I think Sir Elton went off the deep end when Diana died. That cheap rewrite of Goodbye Norma Jean was just plain bad. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sir-elton-john-self-righteous-git/444902/26 "2008-04-11T21:58:08Z")
[QUOTE=Airman Doors, USAF] I’m not sure when he went off the deep end, but I do know that I haven’t paid attention to him since the mid-90s and I’m surprised that anybody still does. [/QUOTE] It was, ironically, when he stopped drinking and coking. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sir-elton-john-self-righteous-git/444902/27 "2008-04-11T22:17:19Z")
[QUOTE=Zebra] I think Sir Elton went off the deep end when Diana died. That cheap rewrite of Goodbye Norma Jean was just plain bad. [/QUOTE] I agree. It was all downhill from that cliff edge. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sir-elton-john-self-righteous-git/444902/28 "2008-04-12T00:47:07Z")
I do assume, since he is not misogynistic, that Sir Elton was a fervent supporter of Maggie T. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sir-elton-john-self-righteous-git/444902/29 "2008-04-12T00:50:19Z")
[QUOTE=FriarTed] I do assume, since he is not misogynistic, that Sir Elton was a fervent supporter of Maggie T. [/QUOTE] Maggie Tabberer? > **[Maggie Tabberer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggie_Tabberer)** > > Margaret May Tabberer AM (née Trigar; 11 December 1936 – 6 December 2024) was an Australian fashion, publishing and television personality. She was a dual recipient of the Gold Logie award for her television work. Tabberer founded her own fashion label and PR companies and was known for her long-time position as fashion editor of the Australian Women's Weekly magazine. > At the age of 14, while attending her sister's wedding, she was spotted by a photographer and as a result was offered her fir... ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sir-elton-john-self-righteous-git/444902/30 "2008-04-12T01:23:54Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] And this just in: Rock musicians are not reliable experts on matters outside of their limited purview. [/QUOTE] Except Bono. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sir-elton-john-self-righteous-git/444902/31 "2008-04-12T03:58:10Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] And this just in: Rock musicians are not reliable experts on matters outside of their limited purview. [/QUOTE] Not even [astrophysics](http://www.space.com/entertainment/070824_brian_may.html)? ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sir-elton-john-self-righteous-git/444902/32 "2008-04-12T04:24:54Z")
[QUOTE=cricetus] He’s a brilliant composer… [/QUOTE] That’s funny! Good one! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sir-elton-john-self-righteous-git/444902/33 "2008-04-12T04:49:36Z")
[QUOTE=Knorf] That’s funny! Good one! 😃 [/QUOTE] I don’t get this. Elton John is definitely a top flight composer of popular music. He’s almost up there with Lennon/McCartney in terms of pure music. He’s one of the greatest melodicists rock music has ever produced. ---
**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sir-elton-john-self-righteous-git/444902/34 "2008-04-12T06:00:42Z")
[QUOTE=Cervaise] Except Bono. [/QUOTE] I can’t stand that guy. Goes back to when I was a kid and he set my arm on fire. No, really. When I was 10ish or so, I had a very vivid dream that Bono set my arm on fire with matches, and stood there laughing at me as I stared at it, wondering what to do. He’s like my own personal humanitarian Freddy Krueger. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sir-elton-john-self-righteous-git/444902/35 "2008-04-12T06:04:42Z")
[QUOTE=Zebra] I think Sir Elton went off the deep end when Diana died. That cheap rewrite of Goodbye Norma Jean was just plain bad. [/QUOTE] I guess he figured he already did it once, he could get away with it again. Especially since the second time, the figure in question was much more well-known. (EDIT: I’ve always HEARD he rewrote it for Ryan White, but I can’t find confirmation that it was an explicit “cover,” as opposed to just a dedication.) ---
**Author:** ![newcrasher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b3f665/32.png) [@newcrasher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcrasher)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sir-elton-john-self-righteous-git/444902/36 "2008-04-12T11:01:09Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] I don’t think it can be denied that a lot of the Hillary villification over the last couple of decades has been rooted in misogyny. Obviously that doesn’t mean that everyone who supports another candidate for the Presidency is woman hater, but I don’t think it can be disputed that she’s been the recipent of a lot of misogynist hostility. There are frat boys going to her rallies and holding up signs that say “Iron my shirt.” If Sir Elton has been around her much, he’s probably seen some of the crap that gets thrown at her wherever she goes. [/QUOTE] I am not a misogynist. I just think she’s a bitch. ---
**Author:** ![Racer1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ee59a6/32.png) [@Racer1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Racer1)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sir-elton-john-self-righteous-git/444902/37 "2008-04-12T11:02:26Z")
Bah. Elton John. Ever since he did an incredibly annoying post office advert in the UK a few years ago I’ve fantasised about beating him to death with a postal stamp while shouting “special delivery” and laughing nsanely. I just wish it was on youtube so you could all hate him more too. Bastard. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sir-elton-john-self-righteous-git/444902/38 "2008-04-12T12:13:19Z")
[QUOTE=Racer1] Bah. Elton John. Ever since he did an incredibly annoying post office advert in the UK a few years ago I’ve fantasised about beating him to death with a postal stamp while shouting “special delivery” and laughing nsanely. I just wish it was on youtube so you could all hate him more too. Bastard. [/QUOTE] Homophobe! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sir-elton-john-self-righteous-git/444902/39 "2008-04-12T12:25:26Z")
[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun] Maggie Tabberer? > **[Maggie Tabberer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggie_Tabberer)** > > Margaret May Tabberer AM (née Trigar; 11 December 1936 – 6 December 2024) was an Australian fashion, publishing and television personality. She was a dual recipient of the Gold Logie award for her television work. Tabberer founded her own fashion label and PR companies and was known for her long-time position as fashion editor of the Australian Women's Weekly magazine. > At the age of 14, while attending her sister's wedding, she was spotted by a photographer and as a result was offered her fir... [/QUOTE] Even though I am sure you’re whooshing me, Maggie Thatcher. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sir-elton-john-self-righteous-git/444902/40 "2008-04-12T14:02:39Z")
[QUOTE=Leaper] (EDIT: I’ve always HEARD he rewrote it for Ryan White, but I can’t find confirmation that it was an explicit “cover,” as opposed to just a dedication.) [/QUOTE] Just a heads up: Elton doesn’t write the lyrics to the songs he records and never has. His primary songwriter over the years (and the one who wrote both “Goodbye Norma Jean” and “Candle In The Wind”) has been Bernie Taupin. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sir-elton-john-self-righteous-git/444902.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sir-elton-john-self-righteous-git/444902.md?page=3)