# Site is no longer formatted for mobile, screen width is way too wide

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/site-is-no-longer-formatted-for-mobile-screen-width-is-way-too-wide/964282>\
**Category:** Site Feedback\
**Created:** [May 11, 2022, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/site-is-no-longer-formatted-for-mobile-screen-width-is-way-too-wide/964282 "2022-05-11T13:58:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/site-is-no-longer-formatted-for-mobile-screen-width-is-way-too-wide/964282/41 "2022-05-18T02:07:47Z")

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How is it currently working for everyone? I saw some reports from just a couple of days ago that it was going all garbled on the iOS.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/site-is-no-longer-formatted-for-mobile-screen-width-is-way-too-wide/964282/42 "2022-05-18T05:44:03Z")

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Perfectly find in Safari on iOS (newest model and OS) since the 11th.

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/site-is-no-longer-formatted-for-mobile-screen-width-is-way-too-wide/964282/43 "2022-05-18T13:38:35Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> How is it currently working for everyone? I saw some reports from just a couple of days ago that it was going all garbled on the iOS .

Probably garbled on older iOSes. My iPhone 6 running iOS 12.5.5 cannot now use Discourse unless Javascript is turned off. That’s OK for short threads but for most of the threads I’m tracking, being unable to use Javascript requires far too much scrolling – like several minutes of scrolling to get down to the bottom of a thread to the latest posts.

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/site-is-no-longer-formatted-for-mobile-screen-width-is-way-too-wide/964282/44 "2022-05-18T13:44:08Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Supposedly the iPhone 6 (with iOS 12) is the very phone they are targeting with this change. So, if it still doesn’t work, I would actually suggest reporting it there.

Someone else reported exactly this – the Discourse developers seemed unmoved.

> I wonder if we’re on of those remaining sites that gets updates later than the rest, due to the extra options we use. I’m going to page @codinghorror to see if he knows about this.

Perhaps. For about 4 or 5 months recently, a few minor Discourse features broke for me when viewing the SDMB on my old phone. Around the end of April, those features started working again. Maybe that was what was going on – a winter 2021-22 Discourse update broke a few small Discourse features for mobile viewers using iOS 12.X.X or whatever. Then a fix was rolled out, and it just took that much time to make it out to the SDMB. Who can say?

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/site-is-no-longer-formatted-for-mobile-screen-width-is-way-too-wide/964282/45 "2022-05-18T15:07:31Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Supposedly the iPhone 6 (with iOS 12) is the very phone they are targeting with this change. So, if it still doesn’t work, I would actually suggest reporting it there.

Welp – went ahead, joined the meta.discourse message board, and started this thread over there:

> **[iOS 12 users not yet out of the woods (straightdope)](https://meta.discourse.org/t/ios-12-users-not-yet-out-of-the-woods-straightdope/227397)**
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> Long story short: Up until the afternoon of Wednesday, May 11, the Discourse forum https:// boards.straightdope. com worked perfectly on my phone. That afternoon, the message board started only displaying a featureless white screen. The condition...

Let’s see what comes of that.

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/site-is-no-longer-formatted-for-mobile-screen-width-is-way-too-wide/964282/46 "2022-05-18T15:46:03Z")

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> [@bordelond](#):
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> Let’s see what comes of that.

Got a response pretty quickly:

> **[iOS 12 users not yet out of the woods (straightdope)](https://meta.discourse.org/t/ios-12-users-not-yet-out-of-the-woods-straightdope/227397/2?u=bordelond)**
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> We had an iOS12 issue last week which has now been fixed. The fix hadn’t yet been rolled out to straightdope. I’ve just expedited that, so it should start working again now. If it’s still broken, please do let us know. Note that we will be...

I’m a little curious about why fixes take so long to roll out, but I guess I don’t have the details in my head about what makes it take as long as it does. The fixes apparently don’t simultaneously happen in parallel across all Discourse boards.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/site-is-no-longer-formatted-for-mobile-screen-width-is-way-too-wide/964282/47 "2022-05-18T15:58:33Z")

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This tentatively looks like it has fixed my footer issues on my Pixel 4a. Yay! (Hopefully.)

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/site-is-no-longer-formatted-for-mobile-screen-width-is-way-too-wide/964282/48 "2022-05-18T16:14:49Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> This tentatively looks like it has fixed my footer issues on my Pixel 4a. Yay! (Hopefully .)

Good to hear.

I can report that my own issue is also fixed – I can navigate the SDMB successfully on my old iPhone again.

Apparently, **[iPhone users running iOS 12 will only have Discourse support until sometime in January 2023](https://meta.discourse.org/t/ios-12-users-not-yet-out-of-the-woods-straightdope/227397/2?u=bordelond)**. Just something to keep in mind.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/site-is-no-longer-formatted-for-mobile-screen-width-is-way-too-wide/964282/49 "2022-05-18T16:18:55Z")

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I’ve got this message confirming the update:

#### Discourse updated: 1 hour ago

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2022, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/site-is-no-longer-formatted-for-mobile-screen-width-is-way-too-wide/964282/50 "2022-05-19T08:24:50Z")

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Yay! It also fixed it for me! So glad it was a bug and not a feature.

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**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2022, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/site-is-no-longer-formatted-for-mobile-screen-width-is-way-too-wide/964282/51 "2022-05-19T14:59:18Z")

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Main page still busted for me on dark theme.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2022, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/site-is-no-longer-formatted-for-mobile-screen-width-is-way-too-wide/964282/52 "2022-05-19T20:45:58Z")

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Works for me on iOS, Safari. (I see you are Android Bravo.)

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2022, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/site-is-no-longer-formatted-for-mobile-screen-width-is-way-too-wide/964282/53 "2022-05-20T01:37:33Z")

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> [@Kron](#):
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> Main page still busted for me on dark theme.

The devs aren’t able to reproduce this. Can you give more details?

What exactly is not working correctly? What device / version / etc are you using?

Any chance you can get a screen shot?

Thanks for any info that you can provide.

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**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2022, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/site-is-no-longer-formatted-for-mobile-screen-width-is-way-too-wide/964282/54 "2022-05-20T08:51:38Z")

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I decided to investigate deeper; turns out I was set to desktop view. Switching to mobile view solved the problem.

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/site-is-no-longer-formatted-for-mobile-screen-width-is-way-too-wide/964282/55 "2022-09-01T17:43:55Z")

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> [@bordelond](#):
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> > [@bordelond](#):
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> > Let’s see what comes of that.
> 
> Got a response pretty quickly:
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> [iOS 12 users not yet out of the woods (straightdope) - #2 by david - support - Discourse Meta](https://meta.discourse.org/t/ios-12-users-not-yet-out-of-the-woods-straightdope/227397/2?u=bordelond)
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> I’m a little curious about why fixes take so long to roll out, but I guess I don’t have the details in my head about what makes it take as long as it does. The fixes apparently don’t simultaneously happen in parallel across all Discourse boards .

Not sure if I should start a new thread … there is a new, current issue with this board on old iPhones running iOS 12. Well … on my iPhone 6, anyway – haven’t seen if it’s been reported by others yet.

Yesterday afternoon, I attempted to open [https://boards.straightdope.com/](https://boards.straightdope.com/) on my iPhone 6 (Safari, iOS 12.5). Now, all it will display is a “Loading” animation that never resolves.

@codinghorror , has Discourse now well and truly washed its hands of iOS 12? Or might something else be afoot?

This was a sudden break. Yesterday at noon, this board worked perfectly fine on my phone. 2 hours later or thereabouts … the break occurred.

EDIT: It was, in fact reported over on meta.discourse. Looks like a fix is being rolled out. iOS 12 support still anticipated to be dropped in January 2023:

> **[Discourse forum stopped loading on iOS 12](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-forum-stopped-loading-on-ios-12/237690/5)**
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> Thanks @tutibins - I can reproduce the problem and am looking at it now 👀

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2022, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/site-is-no-longer-formatted-for-mobile-screen-width-is-way-too-wide/964282/56 "2022-09-02T22:25:21Z")

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Well, for what it’s worth, the problem is still ongoing.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/site-is-no-longer-formatted-for-mobile-screen-width-is-way-too-wide/964282/57 "2022-09-03T02:35:42Z")

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My understanding is that it should never be empty. You are supposed to get either the full experience (if your browser is compatible) or a static HTML page with all of the content (if it isn’t anymore).

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/site-is-no-longer-formatted-for-mobile-screen-width-is-way-too-wide/964282/58 "2022-09-03T21:25:27Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> My understanding is that it should never be empty. You are supposed to get either the full experience (if your browser is compatible) or a static HTML page with all of the content (if it isn’t anymore) .

I might be able to get the static HTML page if I explicitly disable Javascript in the Safari browser. This sort-of worked\*\* the last time Discourse had an iOS 12 problem back in May. It’s not an automatic thing, though.

\*\* _sort-of worked = could read the first several posts in a thread, but no further._

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/site-is-no-longer-formatted-for-mobile-screen-width-is-way-too-wide/964282/59 "2022-09-04T00:08:11Z")

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Which I believe means it must be a hug, and the site is not working as intended.

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/site-is-no-longer-formatted-for-mobile-screen-width-is-way-too-wide/964282/60 "2022-09-04T00:34:11Z")

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> [@bordelond](#):
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> > [@bordelond](#):
> >
> > > [@bordelond](#):
> > >
> > > Let’s see what comes of that.
> > 
> > Got a response pretty quickly:
> > 
> > [iOS 12 users not yet out of the woods (straightdope) - #2 by david - support - Discourse Meta](https://meta.discourse.org/t/ios-12-users-not-yet-out-of-the-woods-straightdope/227397/2?u=bordelond)
> > 
> > I’m a little curious about why fixes take so long to roll out, but I guess I don’t have the details in my head about what makes it take as long as it does. The fixes apparently don’t simultaneously happen in parallel across all Discourse boards .
> 
> Not sure if I should start a new thread … there is a new, current issue with this board on old iPhones running iOS 12. Well … on my iPhone 6, anyway – haven’t seen if it’s been reported by others yet.
> 
> Yesterday afternoon, I attempted to open [https://boards.straightdope.com/](https://boards.straightdope.com/) on my iPhone 6 (Safari, iOS 12.5). Now, all it will display is a “Loading” animation that never resolves.
> 
> @codinghorror , has Discourse now well and truly washed its hands of iOS 12? Or might something else be afoot?
> 
> This was a sudden break. Yesterday at noon, this board worked perfectly fine on my phone. 2 hours later or thereabouts … the break occurred.
> 
> EDIT : It was, in fact reported over on meta.discourse. Looks like a fix is being rolled out. iOS 12 support still anticipated to be dropped in January 2023:
> 
> [Discourse forum stopped loading on iOS 12 - #5 by david - support - Discourse Meta](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-forum-stopped-loading-on-ios-12/237690/5)

I went into that meta.discourse thread and simply asked explicitly that the fix be rolled out to boards.straightdope. David Taylor over at Discourse (who helped fix the May issue) is quite the mensch – he took care of it within an hour. The board now looks great on iOS 12.

For four more months or so 😐

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