# Six degrees of Kevin Bacon

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 20, 2000, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-degrees-of-kevin-bacon/16284 "2000-04-20T13:30:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Inky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7feea3/32.png) [@Inky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inky_1)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2000, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-degrees-of-kevin-bacon/16284/21 "2000-04-20T19:26:00Z")

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The Oracle says: Angelika Jager has a Bacon number of 3.

Angelika Jager was in Robot Holocaust (1987) with George (IV) Gray  
George (IV) Gray was in Stargate (1994) with Christopher John Fields  
Christopher John Fields was in Apollo 13 (1995) with Kevin Bacon

For those Mystery Science Theater 3000 fans out there, Angelika Jagger was the cyborg woman with the speech impediment.

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**Author:** ![Inky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7feea3/32.png) [@Inky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inky_1)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2000, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-degrees-of-kevin-bacon/16284/22 "2000-04-20T19:32:00Z")

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The Oracle says: Pamela Paulson has a Bacon number of 3.

Pamela Paulson was in Robot Monster (1953) with Claudia Barrett  
Claudia Barrett was in Happy Years, The (1950) with Robert Wagner  
Robert Wagner was in Wild Things (1998) with Kevin Bacon

Pamela Paulson was the little girl in Robot Monster, It starts getting creepy at some point…

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2000, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-degrees-of-kevin-bacon/16284/23 "2000-04-20T19:38:00Z")

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Yhe most obscure person I could think of: the starlet who died at the 1921 “Fatty” Arbuckle party in San Francisco . . .

The Oracle says: Virginia Rappe has a Bacon number of 4.

Virginia Rappe was in Foolish Virgin, The (1917) with Clara Kimball Young  
Clara Kimball Young was in Dangerously Yours (1937) with Leon Ames  
Leon Ames was in Testament (1983) with William Devane  
William Devane was in Hollow Man, The (2000) with Kevin Bacon

Yikes!

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2000, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-degrees-of-kevin-bacon/16284/24 "2000-04-20T19:50:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally posted by Eve:  
> Virginia Rappe was in Foolish Virgin, The (1917) with Clara Kimball Young  
> Clara Kimball Young was in Dangerously Yours (1937) with Leon Ames  
> Leon Ames was in Testament (1983) with William Devane  
> William Devane was in Hollow Man, The (2000) with Kevin Bacon
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> Yikes!

Who are three people and what are four movies I have never hear of?

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**Author:** ![Kilgore\_Trout\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6de8d8/32.png) [@Kilgore\_Trout\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kilgore_Trout_1)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2000, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-degrees-of-kevin-bacon/16284/25 "2000-04-21T01:19:00Z")

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while i’m lining up in the queue of suckery, can anyone provide proof?

**Edward Heeley was in In Too Deep (1999) with Stanley Tucci  
Stanley Tucci was in Deconstructing Harry (1997) with Elisabeth Shue  
Elisabeth Shue was in Hollow Man, The (2000) with Kevin Bacon**

now suck this: my boss has a **Method Man** number of **2**.

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_what is essential is invisible to the eye -the fox_

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**Author:** ![mega\_the\_roo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3da27b/32.png) [@mega\_the\_roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mega_the_roo)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2000, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-degrees-of-kevin-bacon/16284/26 "2000-04-21T01:28:00Z")

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My six degrees of Kevin Bacon:  
Kevin Bacon was in flatliners with  
(1) Julia Roberts who was in Conspiracy Theory with  
(2) Mel Gibson who was in Maverick with  
(3) James Garner who was in dead silence with (4) Kim Coates who is friends with  
(5) Clair Brewster who is  
(6) my uncle.

I too, can do this in less than six. But silly me to think it was called the **six** degrees of Kevin Bacon for a reason.

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“Organs gross me out. That’s _organs_, not orgasms.”  
-the wallster

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2000, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-degrees-of-kevin-bacon/16284/27 "2000-04-21T02:02:00Z")

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> But silly me to think it was called the six degrees of Kevin Bacon for a reason.

I think the name is just a play on the old saw that you can connect any two people through at most six intermediate steps. before it got Baconocentric I used to play this with other celebrities and famous people.

Eve, love the hat, you must let me borrow it sometime. And especially for you, because I know you hate him so:

**Kenneth Anger** was in Jonas in the Desert (1994) with Martin Scorsese  
Martin Scorsese was in The Muse (1999) with Greg Grunberg  
Greg Grunberg was in The Hollow Man (2000) with Kevin Bacon

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**Author:** ![mega\_the\_roo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3da27b/32.png) [@mega\_the\_roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mega_the_roo)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2000, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-degrees-of-kevin-bacon/16284/28 "2000-04-21T02:14:00Z")

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Apparently what I’ve done is six degrees ‘of seperation’.

Horrible, horrible me.

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**Author:** ![Kilgore\_Trout\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6de8d8/32.png) [@Kilgore\_Trout\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kilgore_Trout_1)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2000, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-degrees-of-kevin-bacon/16284/29 "2000-04-21T02:44:00Z")

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no, what you’ve done is 7 degrees of seperation.

a) 6 degrees of kevin bacon is connected via movies, only movies. if it weren’t, everyone would be within 1 or 2 degrees. hollywood people all know each other.

b) you have 7 degrees.

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_what is essential is invisible to the eye -the fox_

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2000, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-degrees-of-kevin-bacon/16284/30 "2000-04-21T02:45:00Z")

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All of you claiming low Bacon scores . . . what, we’re supposed to just _believe_ you.

Let’s see those three of four degrees. Whip 'em out.

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Jodi

_Fiat Justitia_

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**Author:** ![mega\_the\_roo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3da27b/32.png) [@mega\_the\_roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mega_the_roo)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2000, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-degrees-of-kevin-bacon/16284/31 "2000-04-21T02:55:00Z")

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Jesus bloody christmas, I said I was wrong, so why push on what **exactly** it was that made it wrong??

It’s just freaking annoying.

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“Organs gross me out. That’s _organs_, not orgasms.”  
-the wallster

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**Author:** ![mega\_the\_roo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3da27b/32.png) [@mega\_the\_roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mega_the_roo)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2000, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-degrees-of-kevin-bacon/16284/32 "2000-04-21T03:14:00Z")

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And John, this is what I was talking about:

“The game is based on the conceit of the John Guare play and movie adaptation Six Degrees of Separation. The play posits that we are all connected by six or fewer stages of circumstance or acquaintance. In other words, if I were to run into Elvis in the Grant Line Road Kroger store’s produce department, we’d hardly be to the dairy case before establishing that he was in King Creole with (1) Dolores Hart, who was in Where the Boys Are with (2) Paula Prentiss, who was in Catch 22 with (3) Richard Benjamin, who was in a remarkably brief TV series, Quark, which featured (4) the Barnstable Twins, whose grandmother, (5) Ellen Haverly, gave a pressure cooker to (6) me as a wedding present. Voila! Only six degrees separate the King and me!”

That’s it.

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“Organs gross me out. That’s _organs_, not orgasms.”  
-the wallster

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**Author:** ![Sweet\_Basil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4bbf92/32.png) [@Sweet\_Basil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweet_Basil)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2000, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-degrees-of-kevin-bacon/16284/33 "2000-04-21T04:39:00Z")

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> Originally posted by Arnold Winkelried:  
> \*\*  
> I had Bacon for breakfast this morning (the vegetarian imitation kind.)\*\*

No way, Jose! _That_ ain’t bacon!!  
(it’s not even **Bacon**!!)

Sweet Basil

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[SRB](http://www.selfrighteousbrothers.com) will get you girls!!

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**Author:** ![Sweet\_Basil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4bbf92/32.png) [@Sweet\_Basil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweet_Basil)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2000, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-degrees-of-kevin-bacon/16284/34 "2000-04-21T04:46:00Z")

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Good Lord!!

Rod Serling (from the Twilight Zone) Had such low Bacon numbers, that I thought I’d try blues legend and 4-time WC Handy Award winner Magic Slim (I play in his band). He has a Bacon # of 2!!! He appeared in the movie Folks with Marilyn someone, who was in flatliners with K.B. So I guess I sort of have a Bacon # of 3 too…

Sweet Basil

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[SRB](http://www.selfrighteousbrothers.com) will get you girls!!

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**Author:** ![SqrlCub](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SqrlCub](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SqrlCub)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2000, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-degrees-of-kevin-bacon/16284/35 "2000-04-22T05:15:00Z")

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I stumped the oracle. Marin (not Martin)Walz could not be found. The suggestions on the proper spelling turned nothing up. WOOHOO! For the record he was the gay NYC police officer in the movie “Killer Condom”. It is a must see for all B-movie afficianados out there. It is perhaps one of the funniest things I have ever seen. Plus, you get to see the extra big shadow of his manhood (he was supposed to be hung really well). You can find a review here [http://www.german-cinema.de/archive/k/kondom\_d\_grauens\_E.html](http://www.german-cinema.de/archive/k/kondom_d_grauens_E.html) and the Troma site here [http://www.troma.com/kc/.](http://www.troma.com/kc/.)

HUGS!  
Sqrl

FTR, someone with my name was 3 away.

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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2000, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-degrees-of-kevin-bacon/16284/36 "2000-04-22T05:26:00Z")

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Can anyone come up with a know actor/actress (that is actually in their db) with a KB # or more than 4? I sure as hell can’t. The Lady and I choked out all the old film stars we could think of. Johnny Weismuller, Lon Chaney, Elsa Lanchester, Peter Lorre, Julia Pastrana, Eroll Flynn, Tod Browning, and a bunch more. Nothing! We got one # 4 (I can’t remember who it was).

Has anyone gotten a 5 or 6? If so, who was it?

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**Author:** ![lswote](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lswote/32/5737_2.png) [@lswote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lswote)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2000, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-degrees-of-kevin-bacon/16284/37 "2000-04-22T05:50:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally posted by SqrlCub:  
> I stumped the oracle. Marin (not Martin)Walz could not be found. The suggestions on the proper spelling turned nothing up. WOOHOO! For the record he was the gay NYC police officer in the movie “Killer Condom”

Sorry to burst your bubble SqrlCub, but the [Internet Movie Database](http://us.imdb.com/search.html) lists Martin Walz (not Marin Walz) with writing and directing credits for the 1996 movie “Killer Condom”.

The Oracle says: Martin Walz has a Bacon number of 3.

Martin Walz was in Boot ist voll, Das (1981 with Mathias Gnadinger  
Mathias Gnadinger was in Justiz (1993) with Maximilian Schell  
Maximilian Schell was in Telling Lies in America (1997) with Kevin Bacon

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In this world, you must be oh-so smart, or oh-so pleasant. For years I was smart. I recommend pleasant.

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2000, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-degrees-of-kevin-bacon/16284/38 "2000-04-22T05:57:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally posted by SqrlCub:  
> I stumped the oracle. Marin (not Martin)Walz could not be found. The suggestions on the proper spelling turned nothing up. WOOHOO! For the record he was the gay NYC police officer in the movie “Killer Condom”.

Probably the only reason you couldn’t find it in the Oracle is because he has a very small role, I mean, even imdb doesn’t mention him in the [cast list of Killer Condom](http://us.imdb.com/Credits?0116791) (but he is listed as writer/director.) BTW, I though the Kevin Bacon game was only supposed to work with actors, not directors/writers, correct?

However, Udo Samel, one of the actors in Killer Condom, has a Bacon number of 3, so your friend Marin Walz has a number of 4.

Udo Samel was in Kinoerzahler, Der (1993) with Armin Mueller-Stahl  
Armin Mueller-Stahl was in Peacemaker, The (1997) with Steve Altes  
Steve Altes was in Hollow Man, The (2000) with Kevin Bacon

With that being said, I’m sure one could find an obscure Indian actor that can’t be linked to Kevin Bacon.

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2000, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-degrees-of-kevin-bacon/16284/39 "2000-04-22T05:58:00Z")

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Pipped me to the post, eh, lswote? I’ll get you someday! :mad:

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2000, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-degrees-of-kevin-bacon/16284/40 "2000-04-22T05:58:00Z")

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After much trying (Lillian Lorraine! May Irwin! Florence LaBadie!) I got a four:

Allyn King was in Fighting Blade, The (1923) with Frederick Burton  
Frederick Burton was in Silver Dollar (1932) with Leon Ames  
Leon Ames was in Testament (1983) with William Devane  
William Devane was in Hollow Man, The (2000) with Kevin Bacon

Allyn King, by the way, was a Follies girl who, sadly, killed herself in 1930 when she couldn’t lose weight and her career suffered.

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