# Six-legged Spiders?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-legged-spiders/20875>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [May 30, 2000, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-legged-spiders/20875 "2000-05-30T11:05:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2000, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-legged-spiders/20875/1 "2000-05-30T11:05:15Z")

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Ok, I’ve been unable to find any info on this online.

Around my office we have a spider problem. among the many different types of arachnid(I should probably say “spider”), we have a group of them that have 6 legs. They’re dark bodied, have no jointed thorax to speak of, but look kinda like a daddy long-legs spider.

Is this a spider? I’m kinda confused by these lil buggers.

Any entomologists out there?

-Sam

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**Author:** ![AWB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@AWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AWB)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2000, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-legged-spiders/20875/2 "2000-05-30T11:20:31Z")

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I think some spiders use their front pair of legs as arms. So what you might think are antennae are really legs that he doesn’t walk on. I think spiders’ real antennae are relatively small.

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2000, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-legged-spiders/20875/3 "2000-05-30T12:10:59Z")

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> I think some spiders use their front pair of legs as arms

Nope(not this one anyways). It has 6 symmetrically placed legs surrounding it. Imagine a piece of dark gravel with 6 legs, and there he is…no antennae or nothing.

-Sam

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2000, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-legged-spiders/20875/4 "2000-05-30T12:33:11Z")

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I’ll bring this to the attention of Doug, the Straight Dope Staff’s resident entomologist, and see what he says.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2000, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-legged-spiders/20875/5 "2000-05-30T12:44:03Z")

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They sound like ticks, to me. If there are not eight legs, it is not a spider. There are a few spider look-alike insects, but my kids have wandered off with my creepy-crawly guide, so I can’t give you any possibilities, just now.

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**Author:** ![soulsling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@soulsling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulsling)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2000, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-legged-spiders/20875/6 "2000-05-30T13:15:14Z")

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could be some type of waterbug, i’ve seen waterbugs that look almost like daddy long-legs but with six legs skimming on water in ponds. is your office prone to dampness at all?

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2000, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-legged-spiders/20875/7 "2000-05-30T13:29:36Z")

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Nope, not a tick…

Yes, it looks like a water-skimmer, but there are no ponds or puddles nearby, I mean not even for miles! And, these buggers walk on the walls, too.

-Sam

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**Author:** ![soulsling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@soulsling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulsling)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2000, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-legged-spiders/20875/8 "2000-05-30T14:48:20Z")

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MOSQUITOS!!! just occured to me. ever see those big f\*\*\*ers? perhaps? they climb on walls, skim on water, multiply like… mosquitos. i’m just guessing, i have no idea.

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2000, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-legged-spiders/20875/9 "2000-05-30T15:28:43Z")

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No wings! Looks exactly like a spider, except for the lack of a thorax and 2 legs.

-Sam

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**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2000, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-legged-spiders/20875/10 "2000-05-30T15:34:21Z")

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Maybe it’s one of the Zanti misfits???

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**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2000, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-legged-spiders/20875/11 "2000-05-30T16:09:15Z")

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Two theories:

First, I’ve heard of and seen spiders that wave their front legs around like antennae for the purpose of imitating ants and infiltrating anthills. However, if the “spider” looks like a daddy-longlegs, that’s probably out.

Second, you sure you’re not just seeing wounded daddy-longlegs spiders? Those long legs get pulled off/lost quite often, to predators, accidents, whatever, and the spider just grows them back. Catch one, keep it in a jar for a while, and observe the little bastard.

I’ll wager we can better tell what this critter is if you can tell us its coloring, legspan, and body size.

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2000, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-legged-spiders/20875/12 "2000-05-30T20:19:29Z")

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I am intriqued as to what these critters are in your office. On a side note, a daddy long-legs is not an insect. It’s not actually a spider either, though more closely related to spiders than insects. Both are Arachnids (Class Arachnida), but daddy long-legs belong to Order Opiliones while spiders belong to Order Araneae.

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**Author:** ![Wood\_Thrush](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b38774/32.png) [@Wood\_Thrush](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wood_Thrush)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2000, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-legged-spiders/20875/13 "2000-05-30T21:49:19Z")

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Actually, as birding has taught me, the first step in identification is _range_. Where do you live, specifically? For example, a good reply would be midwestern New Jersey (where I’m from).

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**Post date:** [May 30, 2000, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-legged-spiders/20875/14 "2000-05-30T22:30:45Z")

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**GaWd** , do you have a good library where you live? If so, I suggest you check out a feild guide to insects.

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**Post date:** [May 30, 2000, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-legged-spiders/20875/15 "2000-05-30T22:58:25Z")

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oKAY…

I live in the bay area of California.

I understand that daddy long-legs aren’t exactly spiders. THis little guy has six **evenly spaced** legs, leading me to believe that he is not exactly a DLL spider and hasn’t suffered damage to two of his legs. Could he be of the same order? Can he belong to the arachnid class without 8 legs?

AcK!! help me out guys 🙂

Honestly, imagine a water-skipper guy with long legs. I’ve never seen these buggers in webs, so my guess is they’re pretty far away from spiders as a family.

-Sam

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**Author:** ![soulsling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@soulsling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulsling)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2000, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-legged-spiders/20875/16 "2000-05-30T23:44:42Z")

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colours, and are you prone to damnpness?

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2000, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-legged-spiders/20875/17 "2000-05-31T00:23:32Z")

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Dark brown/black…no, I use powder when I feel an attack of moisture gettin me down…

-Sam

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2000, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-legged-spiders/20875/18 "2000-05-31T00:50:25Z")

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Well, actually, I do have a suggestion. Squirt one of them with Raid, very carefully, so as not to squash it. Then stick it in a ziploc baggie and take it down to your friendly local County Extension Office. Look in the phone book under YourCounty Extension Service–it may add the word “Co-op” in between “county” and “extension”. This is a perfectly marvelous ag resource that nevertheless isn’t just for farmers anymore, and they wish more people knew about it. Most offices have a Master Gardener service, with trained personnel just sitting around all day making paper clip chains, waiting for someone to call them with a mystery bug to identify. And it’s all paid for by Your Tax Dollars, so it’s free, sort of.

P.S. Don’t try to mail it, because it will get squashed, and the county agent hates being asked to ID a brown smear.

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**Author:** ![Danielinthewolvesden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Danielinthewolvesden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danielinthewolvesden)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2000, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-legged-spiders/20875/19 "2000-05-31T01:34:35Z")

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GAWD: I also live in the Bay area, and I have never seen anything like you describe. And, yes, having 8 legs is required of spiders: if it has 6, it is an insect.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2000, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/six-legged-spiders/20875/20 "2000-05-31T04:22:06Z")

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Quoth AWB:

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> I think some spiders use their front pair of legs as arms. So what you might think are antennae are really legs that he doesn’t walk on. I think spiders’ real antennae are relatively small.

Daddy Long-legs actually use their _second_ pair of legs as feelers, or at least, the ones I’ve seen crawling around inside tents on campouts do.  
Meanwhile, if they don’t look like they’re injured, then my guess would be just a long-legged insect of some sort with a small thorax. If it naturally only has six legs, it’s by definition not an arachnid.

Also, why do you say that spiders are a problem? I’d rather have spiders and their kin than mosquitoes, any day.

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