# Skald the Rhymer is annoying **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 8, 2012, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631 "2012-07-08T21:22:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/281 "2018-05-23T10:51:32Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > The description of his off-board behavior was a little gross and kinda surprised me. But my main reason to link to it was to give a little context as to why _some_ folks might see a pattern, beyond just whatever he was posting. I suppose that makes sense. At this point, I’m seeing such a bizarre team effort to take Skald down that I’m wondering how accurately the off-board behavior is being described. If it’s being described accurately and completely, yeah, that’s shitty behavior. > [@Morgenstern](#): > > You’re quite the wizard Harry. You conjured up so much irony in that paragraph, you made the Sun blink. Sure, you got a literary reference in there, but this post is really just saying, “I know you are, but what am I?” So give yourself another pat on the back. You deserve it. > [@Penfeather](#): > > And women in his stories women have no agency at all and are in his stories either to be hot and have bad things done to them by men, or be hot and rescued from bad things by men, and that isn’t reductive and creepy at all. I’m not gonna trot after these goalposts any more, but this is clearly wrong. Granted that rape definitionally involves a lack of agency, overwhelmingly his stories involve women exercising their agency, and often the entire point is to evaluate how a particular woman has exercised her agency: do you support her after she hides her husband’s crimes? Do you keep her at the job after she’s said racist things? Do you drive her to the job she’s chosen, although it’s degrading? Should she support a lawsuit against her boss? ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/282 "2018-05-23T13:22:55Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > I have been followed around and cursed and been called names. General harassment in my book. I don’t start trouble. Not my way. I’ve been lied about. > My whole problem with this is; you don’t have to read his threads. It’s not mandantory. You all seem to know his story lines, so avoid them. I read one of his hypotheticals and I probably won’t read anymore. I don’t buy horror books, I don’t read comics, I don’t watch sitcoms. You know why? I don’t like them. Easy peasy. color added. Sorry to break this to you motor mouth, but all threads are not about you. Yet you try to work your personal BS into most of them. Cinderella you are not. Forgive us if we don’t stand at attention and salute. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/283 "2018-05-23T13:34:09Z")
> [@ScarletNumber](#): > > Inspired by [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=657881) thread. I thought it was a very interesting thread. Why did it annoy you so? I was tempted to respond until I noticed it is six years old. LOL ---
**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/284 "2018-05-23T14:17:29Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > expacto - > > Your argument would be stronger if you had posted about something other than your objections to Shag or Skald over the past 2 months. > > ## Then we’re back to a bunch of posts about Shag. Like 62. And a few scattered posts about the Giraffe board > > . Why is it not okay to post when someone’s behavior pisses me off, as is the case with both those posters? When I pitted Shagnasty, that thread ran to something like 30 pages, so of course I have a lot of posts in it. And I was by far not the most active participant. That would be Shags himself. Are you suggesting I don’t 100% believe what I’ve said here? As a woman, and a human being, I find Skald’s rape fixation gross and unsettling. But go ahead and handwave it all away if that floats your boat. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/285 "2018-05-23T14:55:34Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > color added. Dude, you were an asshole for a long time, then you seemed to get better, now you’re just trolling this thread to attack people. Take some meds, dial it back. > [@expectopatronum](#): > > As a woman Yeah, ok, you’ve made your opinion known. You acknowledged that other people don’t believe the same thing. Now you’re just insistently making it about you and your opinion, as if that should be the important thing. See Also: My responses above. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/286 "2018-05-23T15:48:02Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Dude, you were an asshole for a long time, then you seemed to get better, now you’re just trolling this thread to attack people. > > Take some meds, dial it back. > > … I never troll assholes and morons. Unless you’re saying I’ve trolled you? ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/287 "2018-05-23T16:07:54Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > I thought it was a very interesting thread. Why did it annoy you so? > > I was tempted to respond until I noticed it is six years old. LOL This thread is six years old, and the OP was banned soon after starting it. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/288 "2018-05-23T16:20:22Z")
> [@expectopatronum](#): > > Why is it not okay to post when someone’s behavior pisses me off, as is the case with both those posters? When I pitted Shagnasty, that thread ran to something like 30 pages, so of course I have a lot of posts in it. And I was by far not the most active participant. That would be Shags himself. > > Are you suggesting I don’t 100% believe what I’ve said here? As a woman, and a human being, I find Skald’s rape fixation gross and unsettling. But go ahead and handwave it all away if that floats your boat. Yes, you are very proud of your Shagnasty thread but it’s clear you have a bit of a problem. You only post here once you’ve been encouraged on the Giraffe board that you’ve acquired a suitable target. That includes the “injured by texting” thread that MfM doesn’t realize is part of the same pattern. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/289 "2018-05-23T16:42:36Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Yes, you are very proud of your Shagnasty thread but it’s clear you have a bit of a problem. You only post here once you’ve been encouraged on the Giraffe board that you’ve acquired a suitable target. That includes the “injured by texting” thread that MfM doesn’t realize is part of the same pattern. You’re assuming that the GB is organized and focused. Honestly, it couldn’t be further from the truth. This shit has been going on since FFF, Capt Ridley, Dumbo, Live Journal, snark pit and snack pit days. It’s not going away, and it’s harmless. ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/290 "2018-05-23T16:42:44Z")
Stalking people and keeping lists of offending posts is 100% creepy. But the cat’s out of the bag now, innit? Sexual misconduct certainly appears to be a recurring theme, and that’s going to skeev some people out. It’s hard to put that sort of thing back in the box. Conspiracy theories about him not really having impaired vision or stock puppeting fake wives, yeah, that has me raising an eyebrow. But does he inject topics like rape or molestation more often into his hypotheticals than would be expected? Sure seems that way. (I love hypotheticals, just ask my family. But I don’t think I’ve ever asked any about rape.) Honestly, though, my real beef with his hypotheticals is that they’re far too detailed to be useful at drawing forth insights or intuition about our beliefs. It’s cool to rag on the trolley problem, but its appeal lies to a great degree in its brevity: details left out are details that can’t be used in a game of “fight the hypothetical”. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/291 "2018-05-23T16:46:15Z")
> [@expectopatronum](#): > > Why is it not okay to post when someone’s behavior pisses me off, as is the case with both those posters? It’s totally ok. But it appears that 90% or more of your posts here are simply attacks on other posters. That’s a problem, unless the posts are constructive. Right? Right? Expecto: have you ever posted on this message board with another username? ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/292 "2018-05-23T16:48:33Z")
> [@nightshadea](#): > > isn’t that just 90 percent of womens literature of the cheap paperback variety ? just sayin ……. Responding to this tangent, no. This hasn’t been true for decades. We can take it to a different thread if you want to discuss it. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/293 "2018-05-23T16:50:01Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Yes, you are very proud of your Shagnasty thread but it’s clear you have a bit of a problem. You only post here once you’ve been encouraged on the Giraffe board that you’ve acquired a suitable target. That includes the “injured by texting” thread that MfM doesn’t realize is part of the same pattern. > [@Morgenstern](#): > > You’re assuming that the GB is organized and focused. Honestly, it couldn’t be further from the truth. > > This shit has been going on since FFF, Capt Ridley, Dumbo, Live Journal, snark pit and snack pit days. It’s not going away, and it’s harmless. You’re talking to the Godfather of all those boards you know. Wrong guy to discuss petty obsessions with: he knows all about this stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/294 "2018-05-23T17:01:48Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > You’re talking to the Godfather of all those boards you know. Wrong guy to discuss petty obsessions with: he knows all about this stuff. And we’ve thanked him for his service. FFH and all. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/295 "2018-05-23T17:10:14Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > You’re assuming that the GB is organized and focused. Honestly, it couldn’t be further from the truth. > > This shit has been going on since FFF, Capt Ridley, Dumbo, Live Journal, snark pit and snack pit days. It’s not going away, and it’s harmless. I am not assuming that at all. I’ve seen expecto hopping around like the bulldog’s little buddy asking “should I make a Pit thread??”. I’ve seen her soak in the accolades when the Shag thread “worked”. It’s on a level of pathetic similar to a certain “me too!” enthusiast. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/296 "2018-05-23T17:17:30Z")
But we agree that’s not a board doing that, right? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/297 "2018-05-23T17:21:46Z")
Sure. There’s a weight of opinion that she seems to need but it’s not like she’s part of an organized internet army. ---
**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/298 "2018-05-23T18:15:59Z")
It is true that I’m usually only driven to post over here when something pisses me off, or sometimes when I’m just plain puzzled (the Annie-Xmas texting thread comes to mind). I’ll cop to that. But I’m not going through the snark thread hunting for targets to snark on over here for sport, or for attention, or whatever. If I put this much time and energy into dissecting someone’s posts, it’s because they’ve gotten under my skin somehow and this is my way of working it out. Blatant misogyny and description of sexual assault or abuse porn make women uneasy, who knew? And I still find it very distasteful that posters rush to defend Skald and brush it off when women come forward and say he made them uncomfortable, and I’m not going to apologize for that. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/299 "2018-05-23T18:49:46Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > color added. > > Sorry to break this to you motor mouth, but all threads are not about you. Yet you try to work your personal BS into most of them. Cinderella you are not. Forgive us if we don’t stand at attention and salute. I was asked a question and I answered it. Of course it’s not about me. It’s not about you either, but you seem awfully mouthy on the subject. On 2 boards, no less. I can’t keep up with _that_ ETA quit adding up my posts, add up your own. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/300 "2018-05-23T18:55:55Z")
> [@expectopatronum](#): > > It is true that I’m usually only driven to post over here when something pisses me off, or sometimes when I’m just plain puzzled (the Annie-Xmas texting thread comes to mind). I’ll cop to that. But I’m not going through the snark thread hunting for targets to snark on over here for sport, or for attention, or whatever. If I put this much time and energy into dissecting someone’s posts, it’s because they’ve gotten under my skin somehow and this is my way of working it out. Blatant misogyny and description of sexual assault or abuse porn make women uneasy, who knew? And I still find it very distasteful that posters rush to defend Skald and brush it off when women come forward and say he made them uncomfortable, and I’m not going to apologize for that. Quit playing. You weren’t “plain puzzled” by the Annie-Xmas thread. You thought she was full of shit. So after enough encouragement, you decided to start poking her. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631.md?page=16)