# Skald the Rhymer is annoying **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 8, 2012, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631 "2012-07-08T21:22:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/321 "2018-05-23T23:49:22Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > I mean heck, there is (or was?) a long running show called: “Law and Order: Special Victims Unit” And they’re way worse than anything Skald does. Yet, I haven’t seen any outrage over what they do. I think if they’d innocuously titled the show _Moral Quandaries_ they might have got a bit of pushback from viewers. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/322 "2018-05-24T00:14:13Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > You and SHS have so much in common. Nearsighted, uninformed, mislead, baffled and confused. You make me fear getting old. Groovy. As always, keep telling me the things you think I’ll give a shit about! > [@Penfeather](#): > > I think if they’d innocuously titled the show _Moral Quandaries_ they might have got a bit of pushback from viewers. I just don’t get this. “The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo” had a much more graphic rape scene in it than anything that ever appeared in one of Skald’s hypotheticals (I think–based on the ones here, and the few others that I’ve read). The name of the novel and movie don’t anywhere mention rape. Where was the pushback? That’s true for dozens, if not hundreds, of thrillers. The genre over and over and over and over and over relies on sexual violence to create villainy. If you loathe the entire genre, I get that. If you just think it’s not for you, I get that. But if you single out a single author within the genre and accuse them of being terrible, I’m gonna raise an eyebrow. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/323 "2018-05-24T00:25:00Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Speaking only as a poster, I find his hypotheticals disturbing and believe they do reflect a pattern that gives me pause. I also don’t think the folks pointing that out are blowing it out of proportion or being creepy, themselves, by being aware of it. There are different approaches. Saying it’s giving you pause? Sure. But linking to a bunch of old threads and falsely claiming they’re all about rape? That’s both blowing it out of proportion and being creepy. There are some other behaviors in this thread that I find similarly obnoxious. That doesn’t mean that I think everyone who’s grossed out by Skald’s threads is being obnoxious or is wrong to be grossed out, though. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/324 "2018-05-24T00:27:12Z")
The other kids did it mom, why can’t I? ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/325 "2018-05-24T00:46:35Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > There are different approaches. Saying it’s giving you pause? Sure. But linking to a bunch of old threads and falsely claiming they’re all about rape? That’s both blowing it out of proportion and being creepy. Yes, I understand. But I find it creepy and I don’t find what others have done unreasonable. You can certainly see it differently, but that remains how I feel. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/326 "2018-05-24T00:52:05Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Yes, I understand. But I find it creepy and I don’t find what others have done unreasonable. > > You can certainly see it differently, but that remains how I feel. Fair enough. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/327 "2018-05-24T01:01:25Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Speaking only as a poster, I find his hypotheticals disturbing and believe they do reflect a pattern that gives me pause. I also don’t think the folks pointing that out are blowing it out of proportion or being creepy, themselves, by being aware of it. . > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > There are different approaches. Saying it’s giving you pause? Sure. But linking to a bunch of old threads and falsely claiming they’re all about rape? That’s both blowing it out of proportion and being creepy. > [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Yes, I understand. But I find it creepy and I don’t find what others have done unreasonable… Seriously, LHoD, not to gender stereotype but when a woman says they found something disturbing and gives them pause how can you not realize that’s saying they found it creepy? I’ve always found Skald’s hypos so annoying that I stop reading pretty quick. After reading the recent complaints and some posting history, it’s hard for me not to come down on the creepy side of the argument. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/328 "2018-05-24T01:35:33Z")
Should I be relieved that a man is here to reassure me that I’m the crazy, creepy one by being unsettled by the endless victimization in the hypotheticals? ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/329 "2018-05-24T01:44:01Z")
no ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/330 "2018-05-24T01:52:24Z")
**Helena330** nailed it: the Dope is increasingly a board for old white men and they stick together. It doesn’t occur to them to give a shit about women. **Skald** is creepy as shit. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/331 "2018-05-24T02:03:08Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Seriously, LHoD, not to gender stereotype but when a woman says they found something disturbing and gives them pause how can you not realize that’s saying they found it creepy? How can you not realize that I realize that? This is ridiculous. > [@raventhief](#): > > Should I be relieved that a man is here to reassure me that I’m the crazy, creepy one by being unsettled by the endless victimization in the hypotheticals? Not what I said, of course. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/332 "2018-05-24T02:13:20Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > **Helena330** nailed it: the Dope is increasingly a board for old white men and they stick together. It doesn’t occur to them to give a shit about women. **Skald** is creepy as shit. SKald isn’t white and not all women are creeped out by the genre. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/333 "2018-05-24T02:13:56Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > How can you not realize that I realize that? This is ridiculous. Because you compared her comments to one unreasonable “rape” link post and ignored that she was saying exactly what all the other people were saying. Because you’re pretending that the only thing you were arguing against was the rape links post.“hey, I understand that almost every woman in this thread finds him creepy, but I didn’t like that link avalanche” is not where you’ve positioned yourself so far. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/334 "2018-05-24T02:39:39Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > **Helena330** nailed it: the Dope is increasingly a board for old white men and they stick together. It doesn’t occur to them to give a shit about women. **Skald** is creepy as shit. you I like ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/335 "2018-05-24T02:45:03Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > you I like So you only stick around here for the threads old white men are good for? Like tax returns and car maintenance? ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/336 "2018-05-24T02:46:59Z")
what? ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/337 "2018-05-24T02:56:02Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Should I be relieved that a man is here to reassure me that I’m the crazy, creepy one by being unsettled by the endless victimization in the hypotheticals? I think Ursula Le Guin is rolling in her grave that he pinched her title for a user name. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/338 "2018-05-24T03:27:11Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > How can you not realize that I realize that? This is ridiculous. > > Not what I said, of course. You’re right. What you said, in a thread that has women saying “this bothers me” was: > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Oh, wow. I’m really glad you provided that link. It totally clarifies things. > > Y’all are CRAZY. > > \ > > But the pattern y’all are seeing here? It’s bullshit, and embarrassing for y’all. So. I see a pattern. I must be crazy, since it’s a bullshit pattern that should embarrass me? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/339 "2018-05-24T03:41:59Z")
> [@expectopatronum](#): > > It is true that I’m usually only driven to post over here when something pisses me off, or sometimes when I’m just plain puzzled (the Annie-Xmas texting thread comes to mind). I’ll cop to that. But I’m not going through the snark thread hunting for targets to snark on over here for sport, or for attention, or whatever. If I put this much time and energy into dissecting someone’s posts, it’s because they’ve gotten under my skin somehow and this is my way of working it out. Blatant misogyny and description of sexual assault or abuse porn make women uneasy, who knew? And I still find it very distasteful that posters rush to defend Skald and brush it off when women come forward and say he made them uncomfortable, and I’m not going to apologize for that. Seems like a weird and somewhat pathetic hobby. A cadre of 5-10 misanthropes “snarking” on random people of a different message board? Well, if that gives you a sense of belonging and purpose I suppose there is some minimal utility. But you know what you could do if you _actually_ found Skald pervy or distasteful? Ignore him! But that would deprive you of a source of inter board drama. What do you hope to gain with this? You want Skald banned from here? What’s your goal? You folks trolled and baited Clothahump for quite some time. Finally got him banned. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/340 "2018-05-24T03:48:44Z")
Now, to be clear, I’m not so bothered that I would have started this thread. But in this thread, we have multiple women saying it bothers us. We are called crazy, creepy, and part of the mean girls’ gang. For objecting to what we perceive as a pattern of degradation, violation, and exploitation. You (generic you) don’t see it. Ok. That’s fine. Just quit deriding us for naming what we’re seeing, ok? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631.md?page=18)