# Skald the Rhymer is annoying

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 8, 2012, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631 "2012-07-08T21:22:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/581 "2018-05-26T20:28:22Z")

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> [@Penfeather](#):
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> If you like, don’t think of it as “women” who are offended, but instead think of a particular woman that you like and respect and admire. Can you do that? Give her a name and a face. Now, here’s a hypothetical for you. Your friend - or wife, or sister, or mother, or girlfriend, or niece - is sitting at a table in the break room at work…

I don’t need to give the vic a name or face to object to your scenario. You just described harassment (also sexual harassment).

It’s not analogous though. A better (still imperfect) analogy might occur if someone I knew (with a face) found out there was a BDSM club downtown. Or, to make it even more realistic, a mystery novel reading circle. My friend objects to it. I would tell her - don’t go then. No, actually I wouldn’t say that. We’d probably launch into a discussion of consent, free choice, fictional treatment of violence, and maybe Agatha Christie and [Isadora Alman](http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-life-and-religion/183267/ask-isadora). But the underlying presumption would be that people can freely do what they want as long as there is consent.

I don’t have a problem with content advisories. I said so upthread. There was no bondage or the like in Skald’s latest hypothetical, but I haven’t seen any of his critics sign off on it. So there’s something else going on, or so I infer.

ETA: Let’s see if I can communicate better. I could understand why someone of any gender has a problem with a downtown BDSM club. It’s more of a challenge for me to understand why folks have problems with murder mystery novels.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/582 "2018-05-26T20:38:32Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> I read your responses there.
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> So let me ask you now, do you now see that the issue is real and not a staged event for cross-board entertainment?

The response to treating the issue as real and treating the concerns as real belie the premise of your question. Chimera, LHoD, myself were all immediately attacked on a variety of grounds including racial and gender for proposing mechanisms for avoiding troubling content. The existence of a forum devoted to gossip and generating gossip is further evidence. Not to mention specific posts talking about intent on that forum.

So yes, I’ll concede the obvious. Skald’s postings quite often strike certain readers as offensive. I don’t like his posts. So, I don’t read them.:eek::eek::eek: But the current activity in this thread strongly implies that that is a desired feature and not a bug. The feature being a hook to use to generate snark content.

The redirection, the projection, the inaccurate tu-quoque, the consistent ad-hominems, the gas lighting, the \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ fallacies are all part of the game for you folks. If you wanted a solution you had it 2-3 posts after the complaint was lodged.

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/583 "2018-05-26T20:45:23Z")

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Hey guys, you can see he almost has this completely derailed, right? Stop feeding the troll, that’s the meanest mean girl trick there is.

Although, may I point out the absolute hilarity of complaining over “potty mouth” language that his kids might see, then ENDLESSLY QUOTING THE MOST OFFENSIVE BITS in his own replies? This does not trip you off that his “objection” to language is nothing more than another pile of crap?

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/584 "2018-05-26T20:47:35Z")

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So you’re doubling down on post 509?

Isn’t that the one where you started this troll cycle?

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**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/585 "2018-05-26T20:58:03Z")

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> [@SmartAleq](#):
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> Hey guys, you can see he almost has this completely derailed, right? Stop feeding the troll, that’s the meanest mean girl trick there is.

Seconded. Engaging with him is pointless.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/586 "2018-05-26T21:03:47Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> So you’re doubling down on post 509?
> 
> Isn’t that the one where you started this troll cycle?

Ok. On my side for evidence is a forum whose entire purpose is inter-board gossip. Additional evidence are your and several of the people posting in this thread and elsewhere in the Pit and on the SDMB in order to bait or otherwise generating snark worthy content. The presence of that particular sub-forum is axiomatic and makes formal proof redundant.

The evidence on your side are nothing more than your repetitious terms of “troll”, “octoputz”, etc.

Nominally, as conceded, Skald has some questionable behavior. The response you and your cohort provide, again, demonstrate a lack of sincerity. You came looking for a fight and to stir up drama.

> [@expectopatronum](#):
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> Seconded. Engaging with him is pointless.

Who knows? Maybe when the recipes come you’ll learn to make sandwiches?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/587 "2018-05-26T21:16:40Z")

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Bye-bye.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/588 "2018-05-26T21:23:22Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Bye-bye.

You “flouncing?” :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/589 "2018-05-26T21:26:02Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> I’d be happy to hold people’s glasses if things reach that point.

I don’t keep my glasses down there.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/590 "2018-05-26T21:32:03Z")

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> [@expectopatronum](#):
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> Seconded. Engaging with him is pointless.

Yep, **DNFTT**. He won’t change for the better.

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**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/591 "2018-05-26T21:32:17Z")

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> [@expectopatronum](#):
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> Seconded. Engaging with him is pointless.

Thirded. To coventry he goes.

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**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/592 "2018-05-26T21:44:22Z")

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**octopus** , I think you went too far in generalizing. Just because someone posts on the other board doesn’t mean they have been a participant in riffing on Skald’s philias and idiosyncrasies for their own parasitic amusement.

Thing is, the humanity is an extremely nasty species, and for all we know there could be a private group that is completely secretive whose members do the same things. So as long as their scruples are so advanced :rolleyes: that they don’t doc-drop people, it’s better to treat them as if their immature forum only existed in our imaginations.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/593 "2018-05-26T22:50:43Z")

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> [@Missy2U](#):
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> Thirded. To coventry he goes.

Sometimes, I _really_ wish this board had that option. Rant unto the void, forever…

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/594 "2018-05-26T23:22:08Z")

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OMG, Coventry for real would be TEH AWESOMEZ!!! 😉

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/595 "2018-05-26T23:30:19Z")

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I’ve had Octo blocked from way before this thread came to life again: I’m feeling pretty smug. 😛

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/596 "2018-05-26T23:44:43Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Before now, I had you down as a relatively intelligent person who got bogged down on trivialities in language, and lost his shit when people used naughty words in the Pit. I thought you added something to the Board.
> 
> Now I have you down as a cruel, petty, small-minded, ignorant man who lashes out in despicable ways when he gets caught in his own words.
> 
> You owe **Guin** an apology. Your remark was way over the line.

> [@Missy2U](#):
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> You are so far over the line here, you’re in a new time zone. You need to apologize.

No, don’t bother, I don’t want an apology. The guy just showed us his true colors.

And if **octopus** doesn’t understand the difference, then that’s his problem.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/597 "2018-05-26T23:46:24Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Ok. On my side for evidence is a forum whose entire purpose is inter-board gossip. Additional evidence are your and several of the people posting in this thread and elsewhere in the Pit and on the SDMB in order to bait or otherwise generating snark worthy content. The presence of that particular sub-forum is axiomatic and makes formal proof redundant.

We’ve got this thread, the OTRU, your own Pit thread, and the snark thread here. There’s plenty of snark right here, in other words. You seem really fixated on that board, but it’s not the genesis of anything new or different.

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**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/598 "2018-05-27T00:10:53Z")

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Yes, a lot of stuff in the pit is awful as well. I lurked for a couple years before posting because in large part it took awhile to get used to how horrible it is the way some are gossiped about.

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/599 "2018-05-27T00:35:10Z")

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> [@JackieLikesVariety](#):
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> I’ve had Octo blocked from way before this thread came to life again: I’m feeling pretty smug. 😛

It doesn’t work well here though, everyone quotes the fuckers so you really don’t escape much.

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**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-is-annoying/627631/600 "2018-05-27T00:45:40Z")

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> [@JackieLikesVariety](#):
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> I’ve had Octo blocked from way before this thread came to life again: I’m feeling pretty smug. 😛

I have much to learn from you!

😉

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