# Skald the Rhymer, your fixation with rape is somewhat disturbing.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 14, 2011, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549 "2011-01-14T01:59:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/81 "2011-01-14T18:17:06Z")

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> [@Mr.Excellent](#):
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> You’re quite right, and I stand corrected.

Phooey. I was going to mock you for using that hyphen.

> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Quiet you.

[del]There should be a comma before “you.”[/del] Yes’m.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/82 "2011-01-14T18:32:58Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Phooey. I was going to mock you for using that hyphen.

What hyphen? There wasn’t a hyphen, and you can’t prove there ever was. 😃

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/83 "2011-01-14T18:33:52Z")

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> [@Peeta\_Mellark](#):
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> It’s just that in the few months I’ve been here I’ve seen multiple threads about rape in which ignorance and rape tolerant attitudes are on display. At one point there was a rape thread in the Pit, in MPSIMS, in IMHO and GD _all at the same time_.

Some of it may be coincidental, but I think that is to some degree this may be an artifact of the occasionally cyclical nature of large general interest boards like these. One rape ( or any other hot button topic with multiple potential angles ) thread begets another and then another and then another, including angry Pit threads. It might just be my faulty memory but I don’t recall a persistent glut of rape topics on this board over the last decade. I do agree they seem more common as of late.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/84 "2011-01-14T18:39:04Z")

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> [@Mr.Excellent](#):
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> There wasn’t a hyphen, and you can’t prove there ever was.

_Au contraire_, I get email updates for threads I’m subscribed to. So, Mr. Mr. Excellent, what’s it… \*worth \*to you for me to keep this knowledge of your… \*confusion \*between an em dash and a hyphen to myself? :steeples fingers:

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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/85 "2011-01-14T18:54:08Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> _Au contraire_, I get email updates for threads I’m subscribed to. So, Mr. Mr. Excellent, what’s it… \*worth \*to you for me to keep this knowledge of your… \*confusion \*between an em dash and a hyphen to myself? :steeples fingers:

Damnit. ::digs through pockets::

I’ve got fifty-two cents, assorted pocket lint, and a couple of old antacid tablets. Will that do?

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/86 "2011-01-14T19:00:50Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> So what are we talking about again? Rape? Not cool. Rape is bad.

It is, although I can understand the temptation to rape a beautiful woman. Apparently some rapists rape ugly ones, though. WTF is that?

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**Author:** ![Electric\_Warrior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Electric\_Warrior](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electric_Warrior)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/87 "2011-01-14T19:27:41Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> It is, although I can understand the temptation to rape a beautiful woman. Apparently some rapists rape ugly ones, though. WTF is that?

If this is a joke, it’s in terrible taste. If it isn’t, I don’t even want to contemplate that.

**Mr. Excellent** , I’m pretty sure **Peeta** is a dude.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/88 "2011-01-14T19:31:01Z")

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> [@Electric\_Warrior](#):
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> If this is a joke, it’s in terrible taste. If it isn’t, I don’t even want to contemplate that.
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> **Mr. Excellent** , I’m pretty sure **Peeta** is a dude.

Agreed that **bup’s** remark is appalling. Also, **Peeta** , my apologies for making an assumption regarding your sex.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/89 "2011-01-14T19:37:02Z")

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It’s in reference to a Pit thread gone wrong.

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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/90 "2011-01-14T19:37:19Z")

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> [@Electric\_Warrior](#):
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> If this is a joke, it’s in terrible taste. If it isn’t, I don’t even want to contemplate that.
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> **Mr. Excellent** , I’m pretty sure **Peeta** is a dude.

I believe it’s a joke at **Shodan’s** expense. From:

> **[So at least eight men have sexually assaulted at least ten developmentally...](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=592084)**
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> Link here. Just when I thought the human race couldn’t sink any lower, it does.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/91 "2011-01-14T19:49:07Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> Some of it may be coincidental, but I think that is to some degree this may be an artifact of the occasionally cyclical nature of large general interest boards like these. One rape ( or any other hot button topic with multiple potential angles ) thread begets another and then another and then another, including angry Pit threads. It might just be my faulty memory but I don’t recall a persistent glut of rape topics on this board over the last decade. I do agree they seem more common as of late.

That’s what I was thinking, too - it’s just more rape-y around here lately than usual.

As for **Dio’s** joke about Tom Delay, he didn’t say anything that comedians don’t say all the time.

And, in closing, I don’t think **Skald** is particularly rape-obsessed.

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**Author:** ![Electric\_Warrior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Electric\_Warrior](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electric_Warrior)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/92 "2011-01-14T19:54:49Z")

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> [@saoirse](#):
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> I believe it’s a joke at **Shodan’s** expense. From:
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> [So at least eight men have sexually assaulted at least ten developmentally disabled women.... - The BBQ Pit - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=592084)

Ah, yes, thanks for that clarification. **bup** , would it have killed you to include a link in your post?

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/93 "2011-01-14T20:04:10Z")

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> [@Electric\_Warrior](#):
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> Ah, yes, thanks for that clarification. **bup** , would it have killed you to include a link in your post?

The perpetual dilemma: provide the link and make the joke slightly less funny, or skip the link and have half the people in the thread think that you are an asshole?

I usually go with the former, myself. Jokes r srs bsns.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/94 "2011-01-14T20:11:35Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I’m not going to apologize for it. Comparing jokes about Tom Delay getting cornered in the prison laundry room to actual real world rape of innocent victims is offenderati nonsense.

So then, do you have some legitimate examples of this SDMB-think that “rape ain’t shit but hoes and tricks”? I mean now you seem to be on the opposite side of the offenderati that you at first agreed with. You were clearly thinking of some other lighthearted rape comments around here.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/95 "2011-01-14T20:14:23Z")

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> [@MsWhatsit](#):
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> I usually go with the former, myself. Jokes r srs bsns.

A better way to kill a joke is to put the wrong word in and then have to correct yourself a few posts down. I meant “latter”.

Need coffee. Going to get more coffee.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/96 "2011-01-14T20:15:29Z")

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> [@Electric\_Warrior](#):
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> Ah, yes, thanks for that clarification. **bup** , would it have killed you to include a link in your post?

Yeah, I assumed everybody was as fixated on the other thread as me. Where are peoples’ _priorities_?

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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/97 "2011-01-14T20:19:49Z")

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> [@Peeta\_Mellark](#):
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> I don’t think anyone here is “cool” with rape and perhaps my impression is skewed because I’m fairly new here and as a rape survivor I definitely get a little jolt when I see the word out there in a thread title. It’s just that in the few months I’ve been here I’ve seen multiple threads about rape in which ignorance and rape tolerant attitudes are on display. At one point there was a rape thread in the Pit, in MPSIMS, in IMHO and GD _all at the same time_. And it wasn’t just “man, rape sucks” talk. It was “women shouldn’t go out in bad neighborhoods flashing their vajayjays all over the place! that’s how you stop rape!” and “if someone says to stop in the middle of sex and you don’t, that isn’t really rape!” type stupidity.
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> It’s not a simple “pro-rape” and “anti-rape” dichotomy. It’s the dismissive attitude toward the realities of rape, embracing the fantasy of Kirsten Dunst in a wet shirt being attacked by swarthy men in an alley.

Rather than typing out a long response, I will just agree with this. I don’t think anyone here considers themselves “pro-rape”. Much like “pro-abortion” I think there are few people anywhere who think that. I think even rapists would say rape is bad, but they would hand wave away what they’ve done as “not really rape,” and I think that’s the culture of the board a lot of times. I mean look in this thread; we had a poster initially agree that rape isn’t discussed as respectfully as it ought to be on here, and then post a rape “joke”. Yuck. But see, that doesn’t count :rolleyes:.

I’ve pretty much gotten to the point where I avoid any discussion of sexual assault on here. There are certain people who always show up and force the conversation to be \*at least \*50% about how men might get unfairly accused, or how it’s just too hard to know when a woman consents, or other such nonsense. It deeply bothers me, so I try to avoid those talks, and if you look at other times when someone makes this complaint there are always others who agree. But whatever; like I said, I learned this is a battle I won’t win on here so I stopped fighting it.

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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/98 "2011-01-14T20:22:34Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> That’s what I was thinking, too - it’s just more rape-y around here lately than usual.
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> As for **Dio’s** joke about Tom Delay, he didn’t say anything that comedians don’t say all the time.
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> And, in closing, I don’t think **Skald** is particularly rape-obsessed.

**Dio’s** joke may be one that you hear all the time, but that doesn’t make it any less shitheaded. I mean, yeah, society thinks it hilarious that men are raped in prison. I don’t though.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/99 "2011-01-14T20:29:05Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> That’s what I was thinking, too - it’s just more rape-y around here lately than usual.

At least we’ve moved on from ped0philia.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/100 "2011-01-14T21:03:07Z")

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I looked the OP’s links over and only one from a year ago was weird and creepy. [What percentage of straight men would rape women under "ideal" circumstances? - In My Humble Opinion - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=547552)

Rape is a violent and dangerous crime that happens to one in four women. It is rarely funny. Your (general) idea of a rare funny rape joke is probably mistaken. It’s still going to offend many people.

Rape in prison happens. It is not an acceptable consequence of being a convicted criminal. It is a violent crime made possible by the fact that the state has put the victim in a situation where the victim cannot escape and where the state keeps the victim trapped with the perpetrators making reporting and prosecuting a practical impossibility. Jokes about it are no more funny than other rape jokes. See above.

Women do not find rape jokes funny and usually view them as a sign of a disgusting man. Women also don’t like jokes about men cheating on their wives, and have pretty much the same view of the men who tell them.

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