# Skald the Rhymer, your fixation with rape is somewhat disturbing.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 14, 2011, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549 "2011-01-14T01:59:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/141 "2011-01-15T02:39:09Z")

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> [@Myrnalene](#):
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> Questions included (and there were more that I don’t remember. Oh, and these might be triggering to some):
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> 1. Hey, does this line in one of my stories make it sound like my character is threatening to rape his female prisoner with a dog? LOL I totally didn’t mean it that way! (This one was repeated several times, every time another women entered the conversation, until more than one person screamed at him to shut the fuck up).
> 2. Is a teenaged girl that was raped by her father still a virgin for ~magical purposes~?
> 3. Asking us to **imagine ourselves as the victims of sexual assault** and wanting to know if, when forced to kneel in a room full of men who want to rape us, we would kneel facing them or away from them.
> 4. Wanting to debate whether drugged rape is somehow not as bad as “violent” rape, and responding to comments that both are equally bad by saying he just wanted to be “fair”. To rapists.
> 
> I don’t know if I’m actually conveying the creepiness of what he did. He specifically addressed these question to the woman, (and only the women) without any warning that the questions will be on a topic that is upsetting to many. You’d be having a pleasant conversation and them BOOM this guy comes in and suddenly the topic is your personal feelings on rape. Only if you were a lady, though. He wasn’t interested otherwise.
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> He’s fucking gross.

Huh? How does he come into a space and only address the women if he’s just starting threads?

ETA: OK, just realized you said off board. But where exactly is this happening? Real life? Dopefests? If so, I need to start attending more…

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/142 "2011-01-15T02:42:32Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Maybe you don’t know this but, um, calling me “Dude”-- not cool. It’s a trigger. I was raped by John Wayne.

I thought Trigger was Roy Rogers’ horse? Now I’m confused.

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**Author:** ![Myrnalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@Myrnalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrnalene)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/143 "2011-01-15T02:42:40Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Huh? How does he come into a space and only address the women if he’s just starting threads?

This didn’t happen in threads.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/144 "2011-01-15T02:44:23Z")

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So where is it happening?

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/145 "2011-01-15T02:45:15Z")

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> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> I thought Trigger was Roy Rogers’ horse? Now I’m confused.

Why did you have to remind me of that? John Wayne was hung like a horse.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/146 "2011-01-15T02:49:27Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Why did you have to remind me of that? John Wayne was hung like a horse.

Oh yeah, like you didn’t _want_ to be reminded. Is that oat perfume you’re wearing?

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/147 "2011-01-15T02:50:26Z")

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Man, reading this thread sure makes me wanna rape somebody. You guys are cool with that, right? At least that’s what I’ve heard . . .

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/148 "2011-01-15T02:52:27Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> So where is it happening?

nm. I’ll send a PM.

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**Author:** ![Myrnalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@Myrnalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrnalene)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/149 "2011-01-15T02:53:17Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> So where is it happening?

Offboard, as has been mentioned several times. I couldn’t link it even if I wanted to (and I don’t). You can believe me or not, a couple people here have confirmed that it happened.

ETA: There’s no longer anything to link _to_ in any case. It’s all gone.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/150 "2011-01-15T03:21:07Z")

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So if Skald gets raped by an anthropomorphisized Dolphin that shoots mutant bees from it’s blowhole, will that make everything alright?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/151 "2011-01-15T03:43:31Z")

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> [@spark240](#):
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> But it’s not just “drama,” it’s evidence toward the precise thread subject–not just **Skald** ’s rape-related writings here, but his actual psychology, as imperfectly evidenced by those writings. If the Pit subject was a public figure and it happened that I had met him, wouldn’t it be appropriate to mention my “offboard” impressions?

If you want to dispute a mod ruling, the place to do it is in ATMB.

> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Huh? How does he come into a space and only address the women if he’s just starting threads?
> 
> ETA: OK, just realized you said off board. But where exactly is this happening? Real life? Dopefests? If so, I need to start attending more…

And if you want to ignore a mod ruling… well, we don’t really have a forum for that. What **Skald** has or has not said off board is not a matter for discussion here. I’m all out of mod notes for this - next person to bring it up (and that includes **Skald** ) gets a warning.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/152 "2011-01-15T04:17:24Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I’m all out of mod notes for this - next person to bring it up (and that includes **Skald** ) gets a warning.

Waitaminnit! You mean there isn’t a dusty tome about the size of the Doomsday Book filled with endnotes, footnotes and annotations describing every conceivable situation?

I envisioned all the mods gathered around it like the Charmed witches or the Scooby Gang.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/153 "2011-01-15T05:19:12Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Oh good fucking grief. \<snip\>

You took the words out of my mouth.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/154 "2011-01-15T07:36:54Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Don’t try to speak for me, ass. Apparently this will come as a shock to you, but “women” aren’t some monolithic group that share an identical sense of humor.

Where did I say I spoke for you? I didn’t. I generalized and said that women don’t like rape jokes. If you disagree, please indicate so. Or do you assume that everyone who generalizes is specifically speaking for you? If you object to me generalizing that women don’t like people who make rape jokes, well then say so. We are, after all interested in your opinion. If you aren’t interested in mine, then please put me on ignore.

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**Author:** ![6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/e19adc/32.png) [@6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/155 "2011-01-15T09:07:30Z")

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> [@Myrnalene](#):
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> Aren’t you Skald’s ex-girlfriend who popped up in a thread where he mentioned you? Don’t you think it’s disingenuous not to mention that connection here?
> 
> [You seem to share a similar style.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12721848&postcount=7) Perhaps that is what attracted you to each other.

> [@Myrnalene](#):
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> The only other board drama I’ve mentioned here is in my first couple of posts.
> 
> I knew fakeass girlfriend was fake the first time I saw that thread, dude. I didn’t need anyone else to tell me that.\>snip\<

So I guess **Myrnalene** , you’ve made your own first point moot. Or mut. Whichever is rapier.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/156 "2011-01-15T09:25:51Z")

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Can’t we all just get along? Like the lint people?

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**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/157 "2011-01-15T10:13:30Z")

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> [@AqualungBats5th](#):
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> Here you are wondering about whether rape victims have an ethical obligation to prosecute their rapists. Needed an answer fast?

**Skald** may not have said anything offensive in your links, but what you say here is actually offensive.

Is this rape joke about you accusing him of rape (hilarious!) or joking that he just got raped (also very funny!)?

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/158 "2011-01-15T11:07:15Z")

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Well, Myrna, if your problem with **Skald** comes from offboard, why don’t you, I don’t know, talk about it on that board? I mean, if you can’t even provide proof that it happened in the form of a link, why do you expect us to care?

As for Dio’s claim that joking about rape is okay, I expect him to hold to that when it happens about women. He can try to claim to not care that he might be a misogynist, but his past posts indicate otherwise. He admits to a black-and-white morality, and has called out misogyny before. Plus, his joke wasn’t very funny: if you want to joke about something offensive, you’d better be sure it’s actually funny.

As for rape triggers: I think the fact that rape is in the title should be sufficient. If you would freak out over that, you would also freak out over a “possible rape triggers” title as well. But I do think we tend to go overboard when we say such people shouldn’t read the entire Internet.

Sorry, I like Skald, and wish more Dopers were like him. I honestly don’t get why so many people dislike him. Sure, doing something shitty offboard is one thing, but it seems more like most people hate him because he’s weird. And that has never made sense to me. If anything, Weird == Interesting.

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**Author:** ![6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/e19adc/32.png) [@6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/159 "2011-01-15T11:51:00Z")

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Honestly, I don’t see what the big deal is. (Particularly **Myrna** ’s pithy out of context link.) This pitting should be pitted.

I don’t find **Skald** offensive (certainly not in the posts of his I’ve read) and I’m sure the majority of the board doesn’t either.

Though obviously in defense of him, **BigT,** I think ‘hate’ is rather a strong word to use - I would think **Skald** ’s detractors are more likely indifferent, confronted, confused, or maybe even bored by him; I would hope that nobody really _hates_ him ‘because he’s weird.’

Like you, I find ‘weird’ intriguing.

**Skald** should be Supreme Master of The Lint People. With **Mr Excellent** as His Excellency.

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**Author:** ![Myrnalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@Myrnalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrnalene)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skald-the-rhymer-your-fixation-with-rape-is-somewhat-disturbing/567549/160 "2011-01-15T15:04:01Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Well, Myrna, if your problem with **Skald** comes from offboard, why don’t you, I don’t know, talk about it on that board? I mean, if you can’t even provide proof that it happened in the form of a link, why do you expect us to care?

I know a lot of folks have a very self-centered mindset: if something doesn’t affect them personally, they don’t give a fuck (see the people comparing taking two second to add a trigger warning to walking on pins and needles and living on eggshells). I do not care, if you, personally, care. But the OP is right, I have personal experiences (that other people in this thread have corroborated), that prove he is right that Skald has “thing” for the sexual abuse of women, so I mentioned them. Because I couldn’t read all the dismissive responses that I knew would come to the OP and not say anything.

And now I’ll get a warning for responding to you about it.

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