# Skimming the surface: Scum Mafia FORBIDDEN thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 29, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896 "2010-01-29T15:18:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/41 "2010-02-18T14:45:06Z")
Is it just me or does this game seem more contentious then most games? ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/42 "2010-02-18T19:17:43Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Is it just me or does this game seem more contentious then most games? Yeah, everybody seems pretty high-strung and argumentative… but I get the feeling (not being spoiled) that all the arguing and kerfluffle is mostly theater. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/43 "2010-02-18T19:58:23Z")
Chronos, as long as you’re spoiling folks, I’d love to hear who has what role. Could you send me a PM? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/44 "2010-02-18T20:37:27Z")
As in, full spoilage, or just the roles? ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/45 "2010-02-19T00:26:49Z")
sach is trying to get some cred off of a justifiably story lament. freud continues to play ditzy. and kelly must go. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/46 "2010-02-19T02:05:54Z")
Spoil me fully, by the way. This is a very poorly played game, so far(by Town, that is). ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/47 "2010-02-19T17:13:39Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > As in, full spoilage, or just the roles? I was mostly just curious about who was scum but I’ll take whatever’s easiest for you to send. ---
**Author:** ![manila](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e5b9ba/32.png) [@manila](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manila)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/48 "2010-02-20T16:04:47Z")
Could you Pm and spoil me too please. Am closely watching games so I can join myself soon. This one has me beat, I can’t see a winning strategy for either side playing out. thanks ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/49 "2010-02-20T23:12:48Z")
I shall stay unspoiled, and hope that some Scum start getting digested for the good of the Pond. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/50 "2010-02-21T03:07:24Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Spoil me fully, by the way. > > This is a very poorly played game, so far(by Town, that is). Could you elaborate? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/51 "2010-02-21T03:20:43Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Could you elaborate? Driven by emotions, late Day votes, and well, bad luck. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/52 "2010-02-23T19:00:24Z")
Assuming that Kelly is telling the truth, his inconsistency could indicate that he received the same player’s name in a PM from the Mod on more than one occasion. Also assuming that Kelly is telling the truth, I think the Tracker possibility put forth by Natlaw is just as likely as a Detective. If sachertorte and others are using a very general use of the Detective role that includes the Tracker subset, that is one thing. But it may indicate an attempt to steer the Pond to an erroneous conclusion about Kelly. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/53 "2010-02-24T22:48:08Z")
Things are getting dicey. Are you around, Chronos? ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/54 "2010-02-24T23:18:46Z")
yeh, **chronos** is either hanging **kelly** to dry or something wonky went on. sounds like a newbie scum fucked up claim. i would hazzard to guess that the only folks left in this game that would come up with rotelier (sp?) would be **story** or **sach**. even money. guess, would be **sach** because of his out of game statements and reasoning. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/55 "2010-02-24T23:19:26Z")
What an interesting day, so far. I have no idea what everyone is really going to do. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/56 "2010-02-25T01:19:42Z")
Eeeenteresting. The plot thickens. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/57 "2010-02-25T01:53:41Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > Eeeenteresting. The plot thickens. Indeed. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/58 "2010-02-25T07:32:31Z")
It’s quite clear that Kelly mucked his claim up, and will get lysed for it. I feel a little sorry for him because it’s his first game. On the other hand, the Pond now badly need to remove the source of confusion - they can’t trust Kelly in this game now. Plus, if he is Pond, he’s now a source of ongoing confusion the scum can exploit. I hope he’s not put off by this. We need new players to avoid staleness. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/59 "2010-02-25T11:04:23Z")
The problem I have with Kelly being scum is that he’s too good at it. I would not expect a newbie to know to do that last green question. Yeah, it appears it isn’t going to work, but it was a very smart move. In fact, when I read Chronos response, I instinctively came up with a way that Kelly could be Pond: Even if there are no spawn, the randomization still takes, but that, in the event of no Spawn in Winter, the two Summer votes and the Player are random in the town. Or that one of the Scum is actually a Spawn. But it’s probably more likely that Scum can talk during the Summer. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/60 "2010-02-25T11:52:32Z")
I’m inclined to agree with the case(s) brewing against sache. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896.md?page=4)