# Skimming the surface: Scum Mafia FORBIDDEN thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [January 29, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896 "2010-01-29T15:18:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/61 "2010-02-25T19:15:01Z")

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Hey, could I have unvoted Spawn and placed two votes on Kelly yesterDay? For some reason, I think I couldn’t do that.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/62 "2010-02-25T19:29:11Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Hey, could I have unvoted Spawn and placed two votes on Kelly yesterDay? For some reason, I think I couldn’t do that.

Nope. One vote per target.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/63 "2010-02-25T20:55:55Z")

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> [@](#):
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> The problem I have with Kelly being scum is that he’s too good at it. I would not expect a newbie to know to do that last green question. Yeah, it appears it isn’t going to work, but it was a very smart move.

The short answer is that he made a few newbie mistakes (which ultimately led to getting lysed), but also came up with a few clever ideas on his own. He’s got some promise as a good player, once he gets more experience.

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/64 "2010-02-25T22:38:54Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> The short answer is that he made a few newbie mistakes (which ultimately led to getting lysed), but also came up with a few clever ideas on his own. He’s got some promise as a good player, once he gets more experience.

Agreed, definitely. And a situation well-handled by the game moderator, as well.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/65 "2010-02-25T22:40:45Z")

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Actually, I think Kelly did very well for a first game, actually. I hope he joins the next games.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2010, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/66 "2010-02-26T17:45:26Z")

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[I got your reference Mahaloth](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0780536/quotes). But I don’t want to clutter up the game thread bragging about it… so I will clutter up this thread! 🙂

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**Author:** ![KellyCriterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b3f665/32.png) [@KellyCriterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KellyCriterion)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2010, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/67 "2010-02-27T07:03:13Z")

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Thanks **Chronos** and **Mahaloth**. I wouldn’t mind giving it another go sometime in the future.

I’d like to be “spoiled” if I could, which I presume means finding out everyone’s alignment. I take it this also means I can’t say bubkas about anything about the game from that point on?

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2010, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/68 "2010-02-27T08:01:31Z")

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Spoiled players or dead scum players are welcome in the forbidden threads, just don’t divulge anything.

If there is a spoiled board, you might find it more enjoyable to talk there without constantly worrying about whether you’re going to let something slip, but we certainly aren’t going to chase you off from here. 🙂

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2010, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/69 "2010-02-27T15:15:09Z")

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**kelly**

what **cookies** said.

i don’t think i have ever been spolied before a game is over, however that’s just a personal deal.

also, we are still looking for more players on giraffe for **shaggy** ’s willow themed game. so if you enjoyed you might try over there as well. each board kind of has there own unique style of play so it’s kind of fun to play several places. and of course if you really get brave you can get to **idle** ’s board and swim with the sharks. and if you are double dog dare you brave you can always play poker with us on thursday nights.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2010, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/70 "2010-02-27T23:30:13Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I’d like to be “spoiled” if I could, which I presume means finding out everyone’s alignment. I take it this also means I can’t say bubkas about anything about the game from that point on?

And more to the point, for a dead Scum, finding out everyone’s role (since you already know who the Scum are, of course).

Anyway, I’ve sent you the link.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2010, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/71 "2010-02-28T03:23:19Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> sach is trying to get some cred off of a justifiably story lament.
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> freud continues to play ditzy.
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> and kelly must go.

Ditzy? This from _you_?

Anyway, here I am, y’all!

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2010, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/72 "2010-02-28T03:49:25Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Ditzy? This from _you_?

😃

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2010, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/73 "2010-02-28T03:57:28Z")

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**Kelly** , you definitely did well. Did you come up with that rotifier thing yourself or was that a joint venture? (Or can you not mention it here? If not, can you PM me?)

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2010, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/74 "2010-02-28T04:25:46Z")

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Yes Kelly, you did well and should keep playing.

I have no idea if it was insightful or not, but one of the things that contributed to my suspicion of you and schizophrenic comment when I voted you was your use of slang like toDay/Today when it’s nuances hadn’t been discussed in the game. I thought perhaps it had been discussed in whatever newbie advice/tips you had been getting on the scum boards.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/75 "2010-03-03T17:29:47Z")

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Hey, something I can comment on in the unspoiled thread:

Anyone see any flaws in sache’s reasoning on story testing his power on red? Only thing I can think of is a possible scum redirector.

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/76 "2010-03-03T18:09:48Z")

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If Skeez really is a 3rd party, why can’t I get as good/lucky voting for scum as 3rd parties? I’m always voting on 3rd parties in the early game, it seems.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/77 "2010-03-06T20:37:38Z")

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ARG! I totally forgot about story being the vig when I claimed. Didn’t even take it into account. I tried to posture a bit, but that’s life on cecil pond, I suppose.

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/78 "2010-03-06T20:48:05Z")

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So, were you PFK or harmless third-party in reality, Skeez?

Ooh, and can I be spoiled? Please?

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**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/79 "2010-03-06T22:06:06Z")

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> [@storyteller0910](#):
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> So, were you PFK or harmless third-party in reality, Skeez?
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> Ooh, and can I be spoiled? Please?

I’ll risk erring on the side of caution and say, Since chronos did not answer that in the game thread, I cannot answer it here.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/skimming-the-surface-scum-mafia-forbidden-thread/526896/80 "2010-03-08T15:18:04Z")

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> [@Red\_Skeezix](#):
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> ARG! I totally forgot about story being the vig when I claimed. Didn’t even take it into account. I tried to posture a bit, but that’s life on cecil pond, I suppose.

For what it’s worth, no one in the spoiled thread saw that in advance, either.

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