Skyscrapers on fire, not collapsing

Nope…can’t. As in Can Not. As in Not Happening.

You would have needed to be able to ‘look’ at the event on a very small time scale. Basically, the building would have begun to move out of true, then the side that was undamaged would have rapidly been crushed and collapsed, and the huge amount of weight above would have then started the same sort of cascaded collapse. Most likely you would have had even more material falling away from the building, but what you wouldn’t have seen, even if you used an alien chain saw to cut a large wedge out of the base of the building like you would fell a tree, is the building tipping over. It’s simply not possible given the scale of the building and the materials used.

The materials make a difference as well as the scale. I saw a brick smoke stack tip over once (though it didn’t quite fall like a tree…it tipped over and started to disintegrate before coming completely horizontal). The trouble is, steel framed buildings aren’t like brick smoke stacks…nor like tree trunks.

Scale and materials. Also, I bet the building didn’t actually ‘tip over’…I bet once it fell out of true it started to collapse, and what you really saw was the cascade of debris as the building broke apart.

Two things. One, ‘lincoln logs’ (a.k.a. Lincoln Logs) don’t scale the same as steel beam construction. Otherwise people would make buildings out of the things, since they’d be cheaper. Two…seriously, Lincoln Logs? :stuck_out_tongue:

-XT

Deserves some kind of award for the single most exasperating thing ever posted on the SDMB.

So there wouldn’t be collateral damage?
How come you are privy to those details of the plot?

Also, I would be interested in knowing how attacking the Pentagon as a rouse would fit in the “let’s avoid collateral damage” plan.

“Thin” is a relative term.

You do not appear to be aware that each of the WTC towers had a footprint that was roughly an acre in size. That would require a LOT of buldozers and cables.

The first attempt to bring the buildings down involved a truck bomb in the basement hoping to do just that. It was in the paper and everything.

No, Dr. Sunder said it took approximately 11 seconds.

You posted a estimate by someone on the internet who starts by saying he/she kludged together a program to estimate a building collapse (for which the author couldn’t begin to have the data necessary to run such a simulation beyond cartoon status).

Clearly the terrorists hid thermite in their luggage with gps units that detonated when the luggage reached precise coordinates upon impact. The purpose of which was to accelerate the building 3 more inches.

Dammit people, you are missing the SCALE of this thing.

No one saw the explosives being installed because they were already there. Have YOU seen any of the original blueprints for the Towers? Can you say that there are no places a series of explosive devices could have been built into the structure?

Remember, these were built just after the famous documentary “The Towering Inferno” was produced. Safety concerns were such that a fail-safe demolition system must have been installed to prevent the Towers from tipping over and taking out half of lower Manhattan.

Of course they couldn’t tell anyone who worked there that their offices were inside a giant bomb. And admitting that the Towers were designed to be destroyed would negate any insurance claims.

QED

I once played a game of Jenga and therefore am an expert in how tall thin things fall over, and I tell you that the WTC was brought down by releasing metal-eating beavers into the air ducts.

Wake up, sheeple!

Some of the 911 nutcases have proposed exactly what you have written, only not in jest.

But it’s the only way to explain the automatic anti-toppling or sliding process! They could not know before hand what side on which floor would need to be blown to bring the collapse back to a vertical fall, so they had to have all sides of all floors rigged.

(And don’t use complicated words like “fulcrum” with me. Sounds Communist.)

I should point out that the Corbomite Maneuver was first aired November 10, 1966, and the groundbreaking for the Twin Towers took place on August 5, 1966. They had plenty of time to add an explosive framework to the buildings, inspired by Kirk’s bluff, so that if there were a threat, they could blow the towers and any attacking spacecraft. The terrible events of 9-11 were the logical conclusion of Kirk’s method of diplomatic relations.

I must post a correction to an earlier statement. I was deliberately misinformed by my memory.

“The Towering Inferno” debuted after the Twin Towers were completed, therefore the real-life architectural marvel inspired the artistic depiction. However-- filming of “The Towering Inferno” completed on – get this – September 11, 1974.

Coincidence? I trust we are past that.

Maybe Mozart and psikey can have a debate on the merits of Lincoln Logs vs. paper and washers.

That bomb would have worked, too, had they had parked up against the supports.

Since linking to a video is considered ‘evidence’, thought I’d link to this Google Video. It’s got some humor in it, but some interesting information as well. Give it a whirl if you have the time.

-XT

Just watching the video again and getting a good chuckle.

9/11 Mysteries host (I can’t remember what her name is off the top of my head but she’s been on a number of 9/11 shows on cable recently): What force acts upon the core to make it all of a sudden disappear??

Response: Gravity. Most people learn about it in the 3rd grade.

That’s just classic. :stuck_out_tongue: I loved the part where the lady doing to voice for 9/11 Mysteries says something like ‘demolitions brought down the building faster than gravity’…too funny. And people actually take this stuff seriously.

-XT

Curse you for making me watch that. Once you start watching them debunk the idiotic it’s hard to stop, and the damn thing is 2.5 hours long. My productivity is shot.

Her name is Judy Wood btw…and I loved her interview. She sounds like a complete idiot. Also, I love the fact that she claims to be an ‘engineer’. It’s true, but only tells half the story. The other half? She is a DENTAL engineer. :stuck_out_tongue:

Sorry about that. Worth it though, right? :slight_smile:

-XT

I googled her name and got this:

“Ambrose I. Lane talks with special guest Dr. Judy Wood about her evidence for the use of high-energy weapons in destroying the WTC Towers.”

Google

Now I HAVE to watch the video.