Yeah. It is better, because if everybody did this, the truther wouldn’t constantly move on to the next point, only to circle back and trot out the same nonsense again a few pages later, when they can act like it wasn’t already addressed.
Why don’t you be a little more specific about what you’re referring to here.
You can disagree if you want, Miller, that’s fine, but don’t act like I didn’t provide a valid counter-argument.
Because after the first try at this, they came up with additional security steps designed to prevent such an attempt again.
Of course, if you believe it was ‘the government’ or the building owner planting explosives, then they could probably bypass these security features. Just tell the guards to let these trucks full of explosives in, and park them right next to core support columns – oh, and keep quiet about it, and stay at your posts here right underneath thousands of tons of steel. Right.
And just to expand on this a little bit:
If pretty much every conception and pet theory that these guys have is blatantly, demonstrably wrong (and I think 99.9% of us agree that they are), then why not let’s pick one and have an actual debate about it? This forum is Great Debates. What’s going on here looks more like Mozart dancing around in a China Shop, throwing things off the shelves, and all of us running behind him trying to clean up as fast as possible, while he ignores us.
Interested in getting into a deep, specific debate about any one of these topics, Mozart1220? You pick. Pick the one you’re most sure about, and you know the most about. Your strongest area. Let’s talk.
And Miller, you know what, buddy? If I seem a little exasperated, and I seem like I’m fed up with the same bullshit tactics, and I’m trying new ways of stemming them, and that includes repeating myself (perhaps ad nauseam to some), it’s because I’m pretty sure I’ve wasted a lot more time trying to debate these fools than the vast majority of posters here. I’ve had it out with them for over 5 years now, on at least half a dozen forums, plus Youtube, Facebook, Myspace, comments pages on news stories among other sites, and - worst of all - real life. I’m sick of repeating how a building is wired, or how it falls, or what kind of hole it makes in a reinforced wall . . . they know this stuff. If they decide they want to debate, AWESOME. Let’s debate. I am 100% confident that I, along with millions of other laymen, could and would crush them. But they don’t want to debate, they want to play games. That’s what I’m sick of.
Well, Jesus, go take a nap or something. It’s not like posting about this crap is your job.
With everyone putting in their two cents (and cheap at double the price!), I’d say the SD could well afford to take a few folks on as temps at least…
(I’m off to take a nap…what an excellent idea!)
-XT
Oh whatever, dude. Your bitchy little complaint sucked in the first place; I was just trying to explain myself and show a little concession, but you obviously just want to be a jerk about [whatever the hell you’re whining about.] And what is it, again, that you’re whining about? The only way you can form an argument in real life is by regurgitating things you read here while watching people argue in circles? Thumbs up, bro. You’re cool. I better go take a nap because I’m starting to think this crap is my job, or something. :rolleyes:
Tell ya what, if you believe so strongly in dancing around in circles with these guys, do your thing. Go for it. Have fun. And I’ll do my thing. Great concept, huh?
Quavering voice Can’t…can’t we all jus’ get along??
No, I’m kidding…of course we can’t. Seems a rather pointless side discussion to me, considering it has little to do with the OP, but I suppose really everything that needed to be said about why skyscrapers on fire can (and have) collapsed, so why not?
Even more quavery voice I did not have sex with that wombat…
-XT
Well, I didn’t start it, I’m just practicing what I preach by responding to posts that are directed at me :D.
In an accusing voice Did YOU have sex with that wombat???
-XT
Now use some common sense here: if wombats are green (which they clearly are), and my penis, in all its majestic glory, is awesome, how could I possibly give Boris Yeltsin the codes to launch the new season of Desperate Housewives? Learn some goddamn physics. You probably believe the Warren Commission, too :rolleyes:.
I’m on the side of “lurkers are reading this and are becoming informed better because of it.” I have personal knowledge of this being true. I’ve even talked to a former mod at a dopefest where he allowed as how his (conservative) preconceptions were wrong and he was enlightened by threads on here. I think most posters have little appreciation of how many lurkers there are here.
My complaint?
What thread have you been reading?
Also listen to a few controlled demolitions and compare them to building 7’s collapse.
Wow!
On most other topics, yes, I’m fully with you. On page (whatever the hell page we’re on) of a thread about the j00 Larry Silverstein esploding his buildings for fun and profit? No.
You’re seriously going to sit there and say you didn’t start this whole sidetrack? Take a nap, Miller. You need a nap. It’s nappy time.
True. So I expect to see no more of this:
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Everyone: dial it back. There is really no need for the rancor, particularly when simply discussing approaches to arguing.
[ /Modding ]
This is a rather good display of how a structure like the WTC would collapse, but instead of steel girders it’s wood sticks.
magic bullet…you just made the baby Jesus cry. No, a good solid college education, and coming from a family of engineers trained me well. Also, not having an irrational need to see bogeymen everywhere helps a lot.
I would dispute that, although not in this thread. If you’d like to continue in a different forum, you of course know where to find me.
Dude, you’re the one prodding me. You started in post #454. I tried to be friendly and shrug it off in #483, and you’ve kept right on until the present. You take it to another forum if it means that much to you. You’re clearly the one with the problem .
Edit: And just by saying “I would dispute that, but not in this thread,” you’re disputing it. Right after Tom said to knock it off. You’re a mod. Show some goddamn composure.
No, no, no. I refuse to believe that that tower was brought down with something as small as a little ball out of a slingshot. I mean, the mass of all that wood can’t possibly be brought down with something insignificant like that.
In fact, before I believe this tower fell down, I’m going to need to know the exact weight of each of those wooden sticks, how many of them there were, and what the total weight of that structure was above the impact zone before I’ll believe that it actually fell down.
What you have there is clever hoax footage of a CG wooden tower, and all those “students” there who “witnessed” the event are stooges planted by the illuminati to convince the public that such a collapse actually happened.
ETA: Furthermore, this dude behind my house who gets real high on PCP and plays Jenga for days says that it couldn’t happen like that!