# Sleeping in, a sunriseless MMP

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleeping-in-a-sunriseless-mmp/829331>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** mmp\
**Created:** [February 11, 2019, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleeping-in-a-sunriseless-mmp/829331 "2019-02-11T11:22:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleeping-in-a-sunriseless-mmp/829331/41 "2019-02-12T14:47:49Z")

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> [@swampbear](#):
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> Fart fest to follow. I have no intentions of leavin’ da cave today.

**Swampy** , I watched **Yogi Bear** , I liked **Yogi Bear**. **Yogi Bear** was smarter than the av-er-age bear. **Swampy** , you’re no **Yogi Bear**.

Snow (ending) turning to sleet & freezing rain & then, eventually, rain. Car can’t be crashed safely parked in the garage on a residential street. I’m WFH today.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleeping-in-a-sunriseless-mmp/829331/42 "2019-02-12T14:48:53Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I can never remember: Is ‘supper’ lunch, or dinner?

Paging Swampbear…Paging Mr. Swampbear!

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleeping-in-a-sunriseless-mmp/829331/43 "2019-02-12T14:49:48Z")

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> [@Spiderman](#):
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> Snow (ending) turning to sleet & freezing rain & then, eventually, rain. Car can’t be crashed safely parked in the garage on a residential street. I’m WFH today.

I think for my exercise today, I might dig out the Prius. I seriously doubt it can be moved, but at least I can make the effort.

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**Author:** ![Serenata67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/serenata67/32/10646_2.png) [@Serenata67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Serenata67)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleeping-in-a-sunriseless-mmp/829331/44 "2019-02-12T15:04:09Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Now that I’ve had (a totally inadequate amount of) caffeine, I’ve decided ‘supper’ is dinner. ISTR reading once, decades ago, that in some dialects lunch is called ‘dinner’ and dinner is called ‘supper’.
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> I don’t remember ever hearing anyone use ‘supper’ in real life; only in movies and such.

It’s a regionalism. [In most of the country](https://www.quora.com/Do-you-refer-to-the-evening-meal-as-dinner-or-supper-Is-it-a-regional-difference-Where-are-you-from), they are used fairly interchangeably. (ETA: scroll down for map) But on the west coast, “dinner” is used almost exclusively.

In my house, it’s usually referred to as “supper.” As in, “Kids, get your butts in here! It’s supper time!” or “Stop climbing on my while I try to make supper!” However, I call the room we eat in “the dining room.”

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleeping-in-a-sunriseless-mmp/829331/45 "2019-02-12T15:06:07Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I don’t remember ever hearing anyone use ‘supper’ in real life; only in movies and such.

That’s because you never ate the evening meal with my family. Dinner was when you dined out. Supper was at home. You never went out for supper - you went out for dinner. That’s what I grew up with, so it must be right.

😃

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleeping-in-a-sunriseless-mmp/829331/46 "2019-02-12T15:19:28Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> ISTR reading once, decades ago, that in some dialects lunch is called ‘dinner’ and dinner is called ‘supper’.

> [@Serenata67](#):
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> It’s a regionalism. [In most of the country](https://www.quora.com/Do-you-refer-to-the-evening-meal-as-dinner-or-supper-Is-it-a-regional-difference-Where-are-you-from), they are used fairly interchangeably.

From the link: ‘“Dinner” is lunch when it is at home and at school, or a home-like establishment (e.g. nursing home).’

> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I don’t remember ever hearing anyone use ‘supper’ in real life; only in movies and such.

> [@Serenata67](#):
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> But on the west coast, “dinner” is used almost exclusively.

Born ‘in L.A.’, raised in San Diego, teens and 20s in northern L.A. County. 😉

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**Author:** ![Buttercup\_Smith](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buttercup_smith/32/473_2.png) [@Buttercup\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buttercup_Smith)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleeping-in-a-sunriseless-mmp/829331/47 "2019-02-12T15:53:01Z")

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Howdy. I have been AWOL. I’m back. Busy, busy time and short of help…I have a packet of eight for a full time spot and one of them is the girl that already works here so filling it with her won’t help me manpower wise. My least favorite duty.  
Happy new week. No sunrises for me lately.

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**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleeping-in-a-sunriseless-mmp/829331/48 "2019-02-12T15:55:46Z")

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Up, caffeinated, and sheveled. Off today. It’s cold and drizzly, and i have errands to run.

> [@FairyChatMom](#):
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> It’s gotta get better, right?

Just look on the [bright side](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJUhlRoBL8M)!😃

> [@FairyChatMom](#):
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> That’s because you never ate the evening meal with my family. Dinner was when you dined out. Supper was at home. You never went out for supper - you went out for dinner. That’s what I grew up with, so it must be right.
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> 😃

Just had to Shire this:  
7:00am – Breakfast.  
9:00am – Second Breakfast.  
11:00am – Elevenses.  
1:00pm – Luncheon.  
4:00pm – Afternoon Tea.  
6:00pm – Dinner.  
8:00pm – Supper.

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleeping-in-a-sunriseless-mmp/829331/49 "2019-02-12T16:04:11Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I can never remember: Is ‘supper’ lunch, or dinner?

Well, since I usually eat only two meals a day (one around 10-11am and the other around 6pm), I guess it’s my ‘evening’ meal. But I tend to use it like \*\*FCM \*\* says; supper is something at home, dinner is used when dining out, but both terms are in my lexicon.

Like other folks, its’ raining here and looks to be rainy all day. 57F outside, but according to the weather folks, that’s as high as it’s going to get today.  
**Butters** , have fun hiring; one reason I never wanted a ‘boss’ job. And even tougher with someone already on the staff–if you choose them then you have to go through the time and effort to fill their slot, but if you don’t pick them, you have a disgruntled employee (says Captain Obvious). Have fun…

**TB** , so the kids were rockin’?

All y’all take care.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleeping-in-a-sunriseless-mmp/829331/50 "2019-02-12T16:29:53Z")

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I swept part of the covered part of the deck, and put out the bird seed. I thought I heard a hummingbird, so I’ll have to hang up the feeder. One of the sparrows (that’s what I’m calling them – I don’t actually know what they are) seems to have an injured right leg. It was standing on one leg yesterday, and I thought it was just cold. Today, I wonder if it’s actually injured. It’s eating, anyway. The birds with the all-black heads are apparently juncos. The ones with the black-and-white heads are black-capped chickadees.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleeping-in-a-sunriseless-mmp/829331/51 "2019-02-12T16:37:33Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I need to remember to get the snow off of the MGB’s canopy garage today.

I pulled off as much snow as I could reach with a push-broom from the side-door steps. Of course I got snow all over me. And then…

I realised I could go into the canopy garage and ‘bump’ it with the broom from the underside. :smack: The rest of the snow just slid right off. It was piled up eight or nine inches, but it was very dry.

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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleeping-in-a-sunriseless-mmp/829331/52 "2019-02-12T16:41:55Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> The birds with the all-black heads are apparently juncos. The ones with the black-and-white heads are black-capped chickadees.

& the ones with the black faces are…going into politics, or is that only in VA?

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleeping-in-a-sunriseless-mmp/829331/53 "2019-02-12T16:42:57Z")

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We’re still just getting rain, tho I saw a threat of snow for Saturday. Normally that wouldn’t concern me, but daughter, Roxy, and I are supposed to meet my mom, sister, niece, and grandnephew for lunch on Sat in Bowie (which is about halfway between where we each live.) Anyway, here’s hoping the forecast is wrong. It can snow on Sunday, but not Sat, please…

OK, back to work. Tim gave me a booger of a drawing to do.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleeping-in-a-sunriseless-mmp/829331/54 "2019-02-12T17:05:21Z")

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> [@FairyChatMom](#):
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> Tim gave me a booger of a drawing to do.

I tried to send you a drawing of a booger, but I couldn’t find one. ☹

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**Author:** ![Fear\_the\_Turtle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_the_turtle/32/2926_2.png) [@Fear\_the\_Turtle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_the_Turtle)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleeping-in-a-sunriseless-mmp/829331/55 "2019-02-12T17:30:05Z")

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Grew up in Maryland, parents from (for generations) Baltimore: Supper was the evening meal and lunch the midday meal. Dinner (when applicable) was eaten in the early afternoon and a little more extravagent than a mere supper - think Christmas or Thanksgivng Dinner. Also on Sundays we had a ‘dinner’, 1300 hrs ish with lighter fare around 1800hrs (although we still called that meal supper).

As to sunrises: On weekdays I’m up at 0600 and at work by 0700, but can see the sunrise from work. So the only weekdays I DON’T see the sunrise are from early May to late July. Weekends are a crapshoot.

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleeping-in-a-sunriseless-mmp/829331/56 "2019-02-12T17:50:21Z")

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I don’t need a drawing of a booger, thanks… 😛

😃

_Waves to **Terrapin** _ - I spent my formative years in Towson/Parkville.

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**Author:** ![Buttercup\_Smith](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buttercup_smith/32/473_2.png) [@Buttercup\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buttercup_Smith)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleeping-in-a-sunriseless-mmp/829331/57 "2019-02-12T18:09:05Z")

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I think all we ever called it while growing up was supper. And where i am from dinner can be a midday meal. Old country folk.

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**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleeping-in-a-sunriseless-mmp/829331/58 "2019-02-12T18:25:24Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> But I’m a Turtle! :eek:

You have your chocolate donkey handy?

(A vague reference to the Ancient and Honorable Order of Turtles. Either that or you’re a member of the same Lenape clan that adopted me.)

> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> [Ancient and Honorable Order of Turtles](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_and_Honorable_Order_of_Turtles)

It will come as no surprise to anyone that I was a founding member of the Four Oaks Bar Chapter.

And the Charlotte’s Bar Chapter.

And the Svetz’s Cafe Chapter.

And the Cornerstone Cafe Chapter.

And come to think about it probably about 6 other chapters I can’t quite put a name to right now.

Why I have any remaining liver function whatsoever is beyond me.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleeping-in-a-sunriseless-mmp/829331/59 "2019-02-12T18:34:12Z")

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> [@kopek](#):
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> You have your chocolate donkey handy?

You bet your sweet ass, I do!

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**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleeping-in-a-sunriseless-mmp/829331/60 "2019-02-12T18:36:45Z")

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> [@FairyChatMom](#):
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> If this morning is any indication, it’s gonna be a lousy day.

Ditto. I awoke to an odd noise that turned out to be a leak along our chimney which allowed water to get into the ceiling and leak out directly onto Dad’s desk. I am not a happy person right now. And with nothing but rain and cold in the near future I’m stuck with it and whatever damage it causes just sort of moving things and waiting for the plaster to fall or not. :mad:

> [@FairyChatMom](#):
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> Oh, yeah, my Medicare card came in the mail yesterday. And at the start of next year, I’ll be getting Social Security. Guess I’m getting old, huh? 😃

Or you lied about your age in the wrong direction? Heck – my Dad did; it happens.

> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I can never remember: Is ‘supper’ lunch, or dinner?

Supper is in the evening; dinner is larger and more around lunch time. Or so has been the case in my family for several generations. A large lunch is dinner and having your heaviest meal at that time is a “farmer’s schedule”.

> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Born ‘in L.A.’, raised in San Diego, teens and 20s in northern L.A. County. 😉

Now I’m going to have a “Born in East L.A” brain-worm for the rest of the day. :smack:

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