# Sleepy Hollow **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 17, 2013, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020 "2013-09-17T01:55:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2013, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/221 "2013-10-21T17:17:18Z")
> [@GovernmentMan](#): > > Probably cause she was convinced at that point? Why wouldn’t she? There was nothing more to be made of it. Oh, gotcha, you’re saying that she did quiz him, he passed, and the issue was closed from her perspective. Which makes sense, although it does of course make one wonder how it was that she became familiar with 1770s-era military deployments. I suppose that could just been part of what she picked up while helping the Sheriff chase supernatural mysteries. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2013, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/222 "2013-10-21T21:24:35Z")
I just heard that the show will be doing repeats until baseball is finished. ☹ Four-five weeks. Dammit. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2013, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/223 "2013-10-21T23:26:06Z")
i can’t figure why tonight is not a new show. world series starts on wends. bones is a new show and THE wedding! so it can’t be that they don’t want to show “special episodes”. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2013, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/224 "2013-10-22T03:32:04Z")
They’re probably just behind on production, and so want to save episodes for a solid run later. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2013, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/225 "2013-10-22T11:43:31Z")
Oh good. I didn’t miss a new episode by tuning in at the wrong time. This was the first time since the premiere that I was going to watch it at its regular time slot and not on demand. I do have my hair done up Sleepy Hollow style today, though. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2013, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/226 "2013-10-22T23:01:49Z")
this is one of those things that baffle me. how do people not know about lef/lou tennant pronounciation thingy? [http://tvline.com/2013/10/22/sleepy-hollow-video-tom-mison-nicole-beharie-leftenant/](http://tvline.com/2013/10/22/sleepy-hollow-video-tom-mison-nicole-beharie-leftenant/) personally i go with lef over lou. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2013, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/227 "2013-10-22T23:08:53Z")
I think I’ve heard him say both. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/228 "2013-10-24T10:55:26Z")
> [@SecretaryofEvil](#): > > Damn it! Sleepy Hollow has outsmarted me. > > The history continues to not disappoint. The Middle English was fun, but when they were going to the trouble of translating several lines of dialogue into Middle English surely it must have come up that the Roanoke Colony was a century too late for the people there to be speaking it. I wondered how many people caught that. Considering how many think that Shakespeare isn’t written in modern English, I’m betting not many of us. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/229 "2013-11-02T12:40:02Z")
The hiatus ends this Monday. See the first 8 minutes of episode 6 [here](http://www.hulu.com/watch/551451). Meet The Sin Eater [here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5q3NL_LJtE)… ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2013, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/230 "2013-11-05T16:29:14Z")
Well, I thought last night’s episode was a HUGE disappointment. Much more than the previous episodes, I just felt like I was watching a TV show go through the motions… coming up with some bits of story it wanted to tell, and then just manufacturing justifications why those situations should come up, regardless of how blatantly illogical those justifications are… -“every culture has tales of a sin eater”. What? They do? If you’re going to claim that something is deep in the shared human experience like that, ie hurts you if it’s something that we’ve never heard of which makes no sense -the visiting-on-death-row but no one knew what name he was using and the death row people didn’t notice that it was the same as previously executed convicts and then he kept using the most recent name and used it for his dwelling made ZERO sense -oh, we want to see the two sisters in action together again, so of course she happens to know all about sin eaters and the captain can get her a 24-hour release from an insane asylum, why not -so the horseman, who is not just a spooky guy, but DEATH HIMSELF, is somehow linked to Ichabod, so that if Ichabod dies, he’ll die? But wasn’t the horseman trying to kill Ichabod several episodes ago? And if that IS true then it’s hard not to think that the freemasons were doing the right thing. Oh, and how did the sisters find the freemason place? Just wandering around tunnels randomly hoping for the best? ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2013, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/231 "2013-11-05T18:30:35Z")
But it had John Noble! Brian ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2013, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/232 "2013-11-05T22:17:38Z")
I was disappointed that they didn’t move forward with getting some modern clothes for him. the stench of those is starting to leak through the telly! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/233 "2013-11-06T03:00:00Z")
At the cemetery where his wife is buried, there is a cross tombstone with a magen David on it. What the hell? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/234 "2013-11-06T03:41:30Z")
The grass around his wife’s grave sure grew back fast, didn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/235 "2013-11-06T04:11:57Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > The grass around his wife’s grave sure grew back fast, didn’t it? Might have something to so with Jewish symbols on crosses. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/236 "2013-11-06T04:33:24Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > -“every culture has tales of a sin eater”. What? They do? If you’re going to claim that something is deep in the shared human experience like that, ie hurts you if it’s something that we’ve never heard of which makes no sense. I’ve heard of sin eaters, and I’m pretty sure Twilight Zone had a sin eater episode. John Boy Walton was the sin eater, IIRC. I wasn’t surprised that Abby hadn’t heard of them, but Jenny knew, so I was okay with that. I don’t know that “every culture” has them though. I thought it was an Appalachian thing. > [@](#): > > -the visiting-on-death-row but no one knew what name he was using and the death row people didn’t notice that it was the same as previously executed convicts and then he kept using the most recent name and used it for his dwelling made ZERO sense Yeah, that’d make sense only if the convicts were from different prisons, in different states. Wasn’t that the case? I don’t remember. > [@](#): > > -oh, we want to see the two sisters in action together again, so of course she happens to know all about sin eaters and the captain can get her a 24-hour release from an insane asylum, why not What’s stupid about that is that Jenny is still in the asylum. Why? > [@](#): > > -so the horseman, who is not just a spooky guy, but DEATH HIMSELF, is somehow linked to Ichabod, so that if Ichabod dies, he’ll die? But wasn’t the horseman trying to kill Ichabod several episodes ago? I don’t remember if the horseman/Death has tried to kill Crane since Crane was revived. > [@](#): > > And if that IS true then it’s hard not to think that the freemasons were doing the right thing. They were, and Crane and Abby knew it, but the sin eater found another way. Since Death isn’t the only threat, best to keep Crane alive and put Death on the back burner. ?? > [@](#): > > oh, and how did the sisters find the freemason place? Just wandering around tunnels randomly hoping for the best? Can we assume there aren’t that many tunnels? What I didn’t get was how the sin eater found them so quickly. I rewound thinking I’d missed the scene where he was searching for them. I’m giving the writers credit for at least trying to make a sensible mythology. Not sure how well they’re succeeding, because if I like a show, I don’t look too closely at the details. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/237 "2013-11-06T05:36:03Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > I’ve heard of sin eaters, and I’m pretty sure Twilight Zone had a sin eater episode. John Boy Walton was the sin eater, IIRC. I wasn’t surprised that Abby hadn’t heard of them, but Jenny knew, so I was okay with that. I don’t know that “every culture” has them though. I thought it was an Appalachian thing. I believe that it is European in origin. I think a sin eater figured in a Silver John Appalachian story by Manly Wade Wellman. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/238 "2013-11-06T05:55:05Z")
[The Wiki on sin eating has already been updated to include this week’s episode.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin-eater) ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/239 "2013-11-06T10:21:48Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > What’s stupid about that is that Jenny is still in the asylum. Why? Though Abbie said she would get her out, I seem to recall someone saying the process would take weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/240 "2013-11-06T12:52:52Z")
His clothes really bother me. It’s just stupid that he hasn’t gotten any new ones. Also, his “sin” was a really big, fat cheat. I understand that the writers want to keep him sympathetic and heroic but his greatest sin is that he can’t forgive himself? Really? I must remember “basketface” the next time I’m yelling at an ump. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020.md?page=13)