# Sleepy Hollow **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 17, 2013, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020 "2013-09-17T01:55:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/281 "2013-11-19T19:18:23Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > Did anyone notice they said “Book of Revelation (no 's)”? The writers are learning! > > Strong episode, I think. The personal connection to the Horseman is a nice touch and brings and element that wasn’t there in the previous episodes. Now we know that Death has a personal vendetta against Crane, its more believable to me to watch him stalk him for no reason other than “our fates are entwined”. > > I think I heard somebody say that Death was a servant of Molech, did I get that right? They said Revelation last week too. But they’re still saying Hessss-ians. Yes, I think it was Brooks who said Death served Moloch. I’m not up on my mythology. Moloch is stronger than Death? Was it odd that Moloch’s minions were so easily killed? Do minions not evolve to keep pace with weaponry? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/282 "2013-11-19T20:05:31Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Do minions not evolve to keep pace with weaponry? [Apparently not.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QnYKR9vMh4&t=2m37s) 😉 (relevant bit ends at 2:43) ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/283 "2013-11-19T20:34:20Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > That was fun. So much so that I barely noticed Icky’s annoying freaking clothes. And who didn’t know what was coming when Icky didn’t see that bayonet go through Abraham’s chest? > > So, is this the Scooby Gang? I sure hope The Master hasn’t taken Kumar away for ever because every team needs an unreliable dead guy in desperate need of a chiropractor. > [@](#): > > Captain: A dead man, a mental patient and a time traveler from the Revolution . . . > > Abby: That’s our team. But it looks like they’re going to actively try to recruit Katherine now too. You always need a witch in a Scooby gang. So it was written. So shall it be. I’ve given up on the costume thing. We’re stuck with it for the season it looks like. Sigh. And who knew that demons were really just evil Hummel figurines? How convenient. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/284 "2013-11-19T20:58:52Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > Did anyone notice they said “Book of Revelation (no 's)”? The writers are learning! > > Strong episode, I think. The personal connection to the Horseman is a nice touch and brings and element that wasn’t there in the previous episodes. Now we know that Death has a personal vendetta against Crane, its more believable to me to watch him stalk him for no reason other than “our fates are entwined”. > > I think I heard somebody say that Death was a servant of Molech, did I get that right? Captain Irving said that Moloch was “the demon at the head of the org chart.” Yeah, he’s the boss of Headless. Now known to be Abraham–loosely related to Brom Bones, swain of Katrina in _Washington_ Irving’s version… I liked hearing & seeing the glass harmonica. Franklin is one Founding Father not mentioned so far–but his bust was the trigger that opened the secret room at the antique shop. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/285 "2013-11-19T21:02:47Z")
> [@deltasigma](#): > > And who knew that demons were really just evil Hummel figurines? How convenient. No doubt. I called them the “One Shot Stops” while that scene was ongoing. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/286 "2013-11-19T21:13:13Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > They said Revelation last week too. But they’re still saying Hessss-ians. I;m going to assume they are following Ichy’s lead as Brits do pronounce is Hess-ee-an. However has none of these people had a history lesson in a town that had a battle take place within it? ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/287 "2013-11-24T16:41:43Z")
someone has let his hair down! [http://www.screenspy.com/tv/sleepy-hollow-sneak-peeks-ichabod-blues-finds-family-holiday-booze-abbie/](http://www.screenspy.com/tv/sleepy-hollow-sneak-peeks-ichabod-blues-finds-family-holiday-booze-abbie/) ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/288 "2013-11-24T18:19:37Z")
I’ve just now discovered this series. The first episode was playing on the entertainment system during a flight I took recently. I would have had to pay to watch further episodes, so I didn’t. But I will – I think past episodes are available on demand on my local cable system. So I’ll catch up. I liked it. I thought the writing was decent, and the acting was quite good. Also, I could happily marry Nicole Beharie (well, except that I’m already married, and she’s at least twenty years younger than me, and more than a foot shorter). More thoughts to come after I get a chance to have a _Sleepy Hollow_ film festival at home. Some night when I can’t sleep. . . ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/289 "2013-11-25T13:09:15Z")
> [@deltasigma](#): > > I’ve given up on the costume thing. We’re stuck with it for the season it looks like. Sigh. I’m of the opinion that the second they pull Katrina out of whatever pocket dimension she’s in, she’s headed straight to the mall, and will buy Icky a pair of jeans and tell him to stop being a historical re-enactment extra. Witches are practical. _nod_ ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/290 "2013-11-26T02:43:51Z")
was that an ent??!! ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/291 "2013-11-26T03:35:00Z")
Hand Axe +2, Demonslayer. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/292 "2013-11-26T03:41:44Z")
A short, cranky ent. You find them in surprising places, like The Wizard of Oz. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/293 "2013-11-26T03:43:40Z")
Do small suburban town police always drive around with a bunch of axes in their trunks.l? ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/294 "2013-11-26T03:47:15Z")
i would think so, lots of trees/branches fall after a storm. also evil ents! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/295 "2013-11-26T03:58:38Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > i would think so, lots of trees/branches fall after a storm. also evil ents! Chain saws for both, I should think. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/296 "2013-11-26T04:43:19Z")
I felt so bad for Ichabod, and then I felt bad for everyone who’s missing family over the holidays. Then Abbie’s message made me feel better. On the nitpick side, we saw the ent confine Lena right away. So did she get away, and the ent dragged her back? :dubious: And the bodyguard dead in the chair – the ent killed him and then sat him down? That part didn’t make sense. Excellent episode though. I assume we’ll see Ichy’s son, eventually, or a descendant. Very cool. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/297 "2013-11-26T10:56:10Z")
I was also very glad to see that The Games didn’t kill Rue-- just put her in a wheelchair. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/298 "2013-11-26T12:17:41Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Chain saws for both, I should think. now that would have been quite something. ichabod may have had quite a time with one of those. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/299 "2013-11-26T16:51:34Z")
Something else that bugged me – Irving’s wife bitching that he didn’t spend enough time with Macy, and then threatening to file for full custody, so he’d have even less time to spend with her. Kinda like suspending a kid for skipping school. Counter-productive. If Irving’s wife wants him to be part of their daughter’s life, why didn’t they move to Sleepy Hollow too? ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/300 "2013-11-26T17:47:38Z")
I had two Icky, Jr theories. One was that Junior _was_ the Ent but that one was killed before the episode was over. The second is that he isn’t Icky, Jr but Morloch, Jr. and Katrina is a stinking slutty bad witch. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020.md?page=16)