# Sleepy Hollow **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 17, 2013, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020 "2013-09-17T01:55:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/21 "2013-09-17T14:39:50Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > There’s a struggle between good and evil, and (I’m predicting) almost everyone in Sleepy Hollow falls on one side or the other. > > …[snip]… Kind of a mix-up of elements from _Supernatural_, _Grimm_, and _Charmed_, with a dusting of _The X-Files_. Thanks. When I read the first few words of your post, I immediately thought\* X Files.\* ---
**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/22 "2013-09-17T14:56:07Z")
I liked the two leads but the story has been done to death. How many TV shows have this same premise: A law enforcement officer discovers super natural events in town and starts digging. It soon turns out that every - single - person in that town knows all about what is going on, except the LEO who has been completely oblivious until now. Plus, a giant headless man rides around on a huge horse with red eyes and nobody in town notices until it appears right behind them! The references to the bible, Revelations anyway, turned me off too. Far too many stories have been to that well already. Do the writers assume everyone has a working knowledge of Revelations that they can expand on? Why aren’t Christians (which I’m not) bothered by reinterpretations of the holy book and it’s use as a magical prop? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/23 "2013-09-17T15:41:11Z")
The one thing I did enjoy is that the long-lifed priest wasn’t a complete pushover. Maybe install some thicker chains in your garden next time padre. But yeah, I hope this doesn’t got the route of all the townspeople being in on the cult. Reminds me too much of the line from **Tremors** “Oh, sure Earl. Everyone knows about them we just didn’t tell _you_” ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/24 "2013-09-17T16:06:34Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > Ichabob seems to adapt rather well. Ya think? Geez, the guy walks 250 years into the future and barely blinks. My guess is that I would freak out and at least be amazed or shocked or fascinated or something - but he just sort of acts like it is no big deal. At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if he suddenly becomes a computer hacker in the next episode and mentions he has 50,000 friends on Facebook. Cop and sidekick - sort of Castle meets Elementary? And I think I am going to very quickly get tired of chasing a headless horseman around…but no matter. My guess there will be other better shows on in this timeslot, so it will be deleted from my DVR rather quickly. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/25 "2013-09-17T16:58:24Z")
> [@shiftless](#): > > The references to the bible, Revelations anyway, turned me off too. Far too many stories have been to that well already. Do the writers assume everyone has a working knowledge of Revelations that they can expand on? As you wrote - tons have stories have covered that ground already, to the point people unfamiliar with the bible can get the gist. It _is_ tiresome how often powerful forces want to end the world. I once spent months working on a story where a near-omniscient being creates a huge conspiracy solely to get American society to fully adopt a dollar coin. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/26 "2013-09-17T17:04:16Z")
I’ll give it another episode maybe two. It was a little silly and way ambitious. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/27 "2013-09-17T17:16:57Z")
Can the show maintain its pace of killing off two relatively well known actors per episode? ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/28 "2013-09-17T17:29:06Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > The one thing I did enjoy is that the long-lifed priest wasn’t a complete pushover. Maybe install some thicker chains in your garden next time padre. What was he saying in, I guess, latin? During that scene I kept expecting to hear “Expelliaramus.” And someone burned as a witch wouldn’t be buried in a churchyard. But overall, I liked it more than I thought it was cheesy. ---
**Author:** ![Merejane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@Merejane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merejane)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/29 "2013-09-17T17:44:39Z")
I enjoyed it, and will definitely give it a chance. I’m encouraged by the fact that the creators, Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci (along with J.J. Abrams), also created _Fringe_, one of my all-time favorite shows. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/30 "2013-09-17T17:47:23Z")
I enjoyed the show very much though I have doubts about how long it’ll last. FOX has burned me so much in the past with shows like Freakylinks, the first iteration of Family Guy, and the show I will never forgive them for canceling, Vanished. So I’ll watch this, but throwing a brick at Rupert Murdoch if they whine about poor ratings and cancel or move it under 10 episodes. This is a show that needs to grow and if they can’t spare 10 fucking weeks to try to put together a new IP, then its going to be years before I give another FOX show a try That said, I liked the show, I did roll my eyes at the bad history, but this is TV so as long as its kinda interesting, I’ll watch it and ignore the revisions. I’m not watching this for historical accuracy, I’m watching this for demons and beheadings ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/31 "2013-09-17T18:10:24Z")
If George Washington was part of a secret cult trying to ward off the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (since didn’t he say humanity hung in the balance when he sent Ichabod to kill him, I was on a play, and may have messed that up), I can pretend that it is our history that is incomplete in terms of knowing where Washington was when. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/32 "2013-09-17T19:47:32Z")
I can ignore some of the poor history by saying it is a parallel world to ours, where witches were actually burned, Sleepy Hallow has 100,000+ residents, and so on. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/33 "2013-09-17T21:23:57Z")
> [@obfusciatrist](#): > > Can the show maintain its pace of killing off two relatively well known actors per episode? Clancy Brown’s name was in the opening credits, so he’ll be back, in some form or another. Is the other “relatively well known actor” the Asian cop? I don’t remember where I’ve seen him before. I agree it was silly, but it was sincere, even while winking a bit, with the reference to seven years of tribulations. I’m okay with Ichabod appearing to adapt quickly, but we don’t know what’s going on in his head. It’d be a waste of time for him to walk around with his mouth hanging open. His adaptability makes him come off as resilient, and maybe that’s one of his character traits. ---
**Author:** ![Merejane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@Merejane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merejane)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/34 "2013-09-17T21:42:22Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Is the other “relatively well known actor” the Asian cop? I don’t remember where I’ve seen him before. I think so. He was played by [John Cho](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0158626/). ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/35 "2013-09-17T22:09:01Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Clancy Brown’s name was in the opening credits, so he’ll be back, in some form or another. Only as a guest star, as was John Cho. Which is a great shame, as I think Clancy Brown would’ve been amazing as a regular. It was an in-joke to have him beheaded, though, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/36 "2013-09-17T22:34:03Z")
I enjoyed it well enough. (It reminds me of Grimm) But really, I could have done with out the Three Stooges moment where the girl bites the dude’s finger in the back of the squad car. [Curly](http://www.threestooges.net/albums/sounds/woowoo.wav) ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/37 "2013-09-17T22:39:00Z")
I missed a few minutes of this show so many someone can explain for me If the HH was supposed to have been Death and never human in the first place, and he’s trying to reclaim his head in order to usher in the other 3 Horsemen, why didn’t he do that when he had his head 200 years ago? ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/38 "2013-09-17T22:40:35Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > Only as a guest star, as was John Cho. Which is a great shame, as I think Clancy Brown would’ve been amazing as a regular. > > It was an in-joke to have him beheaded, though, of course. C’mon - an entire generation doesn’t know he was the Kurgan. They’re probably wondering why he sounds like Lex Luthor from the cartoons. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/39 "2013-09-17T23:21:14Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > Only as a guest star, as was John Cho. Which is a great shame, as I think Clancy Brown would’ve been amazing as a regular. Well phooey. And John Cho is Harold of Harold and Kumar – I love those movies. Double phooey. **YogSosoth** , logical question, and I don’t think it was explained, or will be. The answer is probably “because there wouldn’t be a show if he’d recovered his head earlier.” ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020/40 "2013-09-18T01:06:10Z")
I’m watching it now, partly out of local interest, as I lived near Sleepy Hollow (North Tarrytown, at the time) during the 1990s. I was hoping to see something of the area but like every other show, it’s obviously not filmed where it’s set. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sleepy-hollow/669020.md?page=3)