# Slip Slidin' Away Toilet **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 19, 2019, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slip-slidin-away-toilet/845078 "2019-12-19T12:47:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slip-slidin-away-toilet/845078/21 "2019-12-19T23:18:18Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > For people complaining about _this_ design, [maybe stay away from Asia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squat_toilet). I’ve used squat toilets. Then again, I’m still flexible enough to do so. If you spend your whole life using squats you’re likely to be able to use them into old age. I’ve also seen squats with handrails, which help the user steady him/herself while using it. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slip-slidin-away-toilet/845078/22 "2019-12-19T23:27:11Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Do they have to spend a longer time sitting on the toilet? Plus add on tampon/pad removal and replacement. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slip-slidin-away-toilet/845078/23 "2019-12-19T23:30:50Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > 40 hours year is still about $500 per year, per employee that does it, that’s money that that ultimately comes out of the owners pocket or gets passed on to customers.[. . .]. I have to walk the line between not being overly harsh You think it’s money stolen out of the owner’s pocket if people working all day shifts spend even 10 minutes a day to go to the bathroom, and you don’t think that’s overly harsh? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slip-slidin-away-toilet/845078/24 "2019-12-20T00:04:34Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > You think it’s money stolen out of the owner’s pocket if people working all day shifts spend even 10 minutes a day to go to the bathroom, and you don’t think that’s overly harsh? Again, this isn’t about people using the bathroom, this is about people that are not only specifically waiting until they get to work to take a long bathroom break (instead of just doing it home before they leave for it), but then bragging about how they get paid for 40ish hours a year for doing it. Also wrapped into this, is people not using the bathroom, just hiding out in the bathroom for 10 minutes here and there. Again, it’s less about doing it and more about how they’re literally telling me that they wasted time, how they wasted the time and how much money they made wasting the time. If you’re going to do it, fine whatever, but maybe not tell the person who signs your paycheck. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slip-slidin-away-toilet/845078/25 "2019-12-20T00:05:45Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Given that women more or less have to sit on the toilet to either piss or shit, whereas generally men only sit to shit, the answer would seem to be “yes”. I was asking about time per use, not total time. The OP’s quote said that the toilet in question “is designed to make it uncomfortable to spend longer than about five minutes on it”; and I wondered whether women were more likely than men to have to spend that long on the toilet, but maybe I should have asked that specifically. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slip-slidin-away-toilet/845078/26 "2019-12-20T00:33:33Z")
Ah, fuck it. Just piss on the floor and be done. Serves the bosses right. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slip-slidin-away-toilet/845078/27 "2019-12-20T00:35:44Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > I was asking about time per use, not total time. > > The OP’s quote said that the toilet in question “is designed to make it uncomfortable to spend longer than about five minutes on it”; and I wondered whether women were more likely than men to have to spend that long on the toilet, but maybe I should have asked that specifically. If we women are on the toilet that long, we may be having a good cry. It keeps us from shooting up the place. You men oughta try it. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slip-slidin-away-toilet/845078/28 "2019-12-20T02:40:41Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > Plus add on tampon/pad removal and replacement. I was trying to be delicate. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slip-slidin-away-toilet/845078/29 "2019-12-20T02:42:23Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Again, this isn’t about people using the bathroom, this is about people that are not only specifically waiting until they get to work to take a long bathroom break (instead of just doing it home before they leave for it), but then bragging about how they get paid for 40ish hours a year for doing it. Also wrapped into this, is people not using the bathroom, just hiding out in the bathroom for 10 minutes here and there. > > Again, it’s less about doing it and more about how they’re literally telling me that they wasted time, how they wasted the time and how much money they made wasting the time. > If you’re going to do it, fine whatever, but maybe not tell the person who signs your paycheck. People wait to defecate until they are at work? That is ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slip-slidin-away-toilet/845078/30 "2019-12-20T02:49:10Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > People wait to defecate until they are at work? That is ridiculous. Ha! Only fools poop for free! ---
**Author:** ![VOW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vow/32/3043_2.png) [@VOW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VOW)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slip-slidin-away-toilet/845078/31 "2019-12-20T05:39:27Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > People wait to defecate until they are at work? That is ridiculous. I’ve never had the type of control where I can POD–Poop On Demand. ~VOW ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slip-slidin-away-toilet/845078/32 "2019-12-20T12:54:12Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > People wait to defecate until they are at work? That is ridiculous. Not so much depending. Sometimes there are things, I guess this could be one of them, where the person has a choice. Get to work early or on time, then take care of the issue, or get there late because of the issue. Depending on the job and supervisor, one might feel pressured to get there first, even early then take care of business. What I believe may be happening in Joey’s P’s situation is that Joey watches his employees too closely in terms of working time on the clock. If he calculates how much money bathroom breaks are costing him annually\*, it seems likely that he also has a problem with anyone arriving late or leaving early or taking a longer then allowed lunch or other such breaks. In generally people appreciate a little flexibility, and if held to such rigid standards will tend to rebel in ‘legal’ ways. It is a form of self comfort for them (at least I can get paid to shit and the boss can’t say anything about it, and yes a message to you to push your button, perhaps for pushing their’s. As such he may have very well invited the bragging he hates so much. - . Also studies have generally shown that to some degree breaks/flexibility increase productivity and morale, paying them to shit may help them be happier, easier to deal with and more productive. After all he hires humans, not robots and humans have maintenance needs, and one would not expect to hire a robot and not allow for oil changes or whatever it needs as part of it running correctly. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slip-slidin-away-toilet/845078/33 "2019-12-20T13:37:20Z")
> [@](#): > > After all he hires humans, not robots and humans have maintenance needs, and one would not expect to hire a robot and not allow for oil changes or whatever it needs as part of it running correctly. This shows a huge lack of comprehension for what I’ve been saying. If you’re not going to read what I wrote, don’t criticize the things you think I do. Let’s use your sarcastic robot comment. If you got a brand new car with zero miles on it and it told you it needed an oil change a week/100 miles after you got it, and then every 1000 miles after that, it would be really obnoxious. If after a few years of this, the car maker put out a press release stating there’s no actual need to change the oil every 1000 miles like you’ve been doing. You can change it every 7500 miles, they just set the car to turn the light on more often to help generate revenue for their dealerships…you’d be okay with that, right? To get back to the OP, my first post in this thread, which I still stand by, is that if employees don’t brag about how much time they waste, employers are going to be less likely to implement things to make it harder for them to do so. That’s all I’ve been saying. Waste time, whatever, just don’t rub it in your boss’ face. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slip-slidin-away-toilet/845078/34 "2019-12-20T13:47:12Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > This shows a huge lack of comprehension for what I’ve been saying… . and you did the exact same thing as to what I am saying. But anyway… > [@](#): > > To get back to the OP, my first post in this thread, which I still stand by, is that if employees don’t brag about how much time they waste, employers are going to be less likely to implement things to make it harder for them to do so. … This is the part that shows you have a ‘huge lack of comprehension for what I’ve been saying’, in that I was saying if the employees are doing this, it is most likely a response to what the employer is doing. As such the solution is in the employer’s hands, not the employees. If the employer may a rule somehow that made this forbidden to brag about it, the problem would still exist and would manifest in some other way. That is the part I feel you are not understanding - it is a employer issue to correct, not a employee issues to stop. I said it once, now twice, thus I have said my piece on this aspect. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slip-slidin-away-toilet/845078/35 "2019-12-20T13:57:29Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > - . Also studies have generally shown that to some degree breaks/flexibility increase productivity and morale, paying them to shit may help them be happier, easier to deal with and more productive. Let me ask you this. What if it was your money? Lets say you called a handyman to fix your fridge, replace a sink and paint a bedroom and he told you it would take him 6 hours at $15/hour to do so. He does the work and comes to you to collect. He gets to your house at 10am and finishes up at 5pm. He tells you it ended up taking 7 hours. You ask him why he said he started at 10, but he was in his truck for the first hour. He tells you that he likes to talk to his mom every morning, but always waits until he arrives at a job so he can get paid while he’s doing it. You’re okay with that, right? I mean, you’re okay with paying him the extra hour and bragging to you about how you’re about to hand him $15 to sit in your driveway and chat on the phone? I wouldn’t be. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slip-slidin-away-toilet/845078/36 "2019-12-20T14:13:16Z")
The public reacts: > **[Social media awash with scorn for 'sloping toilet'](https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50835604)** > > The toilet, being uncomfortable to sit on at length, is an attempt to improve office productivity. One person suggested constructing a “counter-angle” piece that would go on top of the toilet and regain the horizontal surface. Another suggested sitting backwards on the toilet. I suspect both of these people would end up sliding off the toilet. More interesting was that this has been invented before – 108 years ago by Twyfords – The Twyfords “Natura” Wash-Down W.C. Basin with sloping top". Their version didn’t catch on. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slip-slidin-away-toilet/845078/37 "2019-12-20T14:16:53Z")
Commentary about the reporting o this toilet: > **[Downward Tilting Toilet – Truth or Fiction?](https://www.truthorfiction.com/downward-tilting-toilet/)** > > Are companies really installing downward tilting toilets to discourage long bathroom visits? ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slip-slidin-away-toilet/845078/38 "2019-12-20T14:19:13Z")
I like the suggestion in the sketch on this site: > **[How people are reacting to new sloping toilets that reduce how much time you...](https://indianexpress.com/article/trending/trending-globally/uk-company-invents-sloping-toilets-to-stop-employees-from-taking-long-loo-breaks-irks-all-online-6176741/)** > > UK's Standard Toilet received a patent for a toilet seat that is at a 13-degree angle, that makes it difficult for people to sit on it for more than five minutes. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slip-slidin-away-toilet/845078/39 "2019-12-20T16:53:09Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > The public reacts: > > [Social media awash with scorn for 'sloping toilet'](https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50835604) > > One person suggested constructing a “counter-angle” piece that would go on top of the toilet and regain the horizontal surface. Another suggested sitting backwards on the toilet. I suspect both of these people would end up sliding off the toilet. > > More interesting was that this has been invented before – 108 years ago by Twyfords – The Twyfords “Natura” Wash-Down W.C. Basin with sloping top". Their version didn’t catch on. What about just shoving a roll of TP or 2 under the seat in the front? ---
**Author:** ![VOW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vow/32/3043_2.png) [@VOW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VOW)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slip-slidin-away-toilet/845078/40 "2019-12-20T17:48:34Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > What about just shoving a roll of TP or 2 under the seat in the front? No. Just…no. You’ve got balance issues to begin with. Add slick porcelain, then a flat seat connected to a hinge. Somebody will end up on the floor or in the water, while other restroom visitors call 911. The EMTs will be snorting and giggling, and the ER doctors will be treating “very interesting” bruises and lacerations. Oh, the humanity! ~VOW [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slip-slidin-away-toilet/845078.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slip-slidin-away-toilet/845078.md?page=3)