# Slipknot? Could someone explain this fucking shit! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 2, 2002, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slipknot-could-someone-explain-this-fucking-shit/117072 "2002-07-02T18:21:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Osbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/cdc98d/32.png) [@Osbie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Osbie)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slipknot-could-someone-explain-this-fucking-shit/117072/21 "2002-07-02T22:51:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Siddhartha Vicious \* > \*\*Makes you wonder whether parents bitched about their kids’ tastes in Mozart’s day. “Eine Klein Nachtmusik? Keep that shit down!” \*\* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! (Actually, they probably did.) ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slipknot-could-someone-explain-this-fucking-shit/117072/22 "2002-07-02T23:17:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by WSLer \* > \*\* > > Well let’s see, N’SYNC don’t go around bleating about killing your parents like Slipknot do, and N’SYNC don’t hide their faces like Slipknot do. And N’SYNC don’t scream fuck or shit or cocksucker every 3 seconds in any of their songs, unlike Slipknot. \*\* No they just sing about “doing you all night long baby”, which is simply the other end of the spectrum. ---
**Author:** ![Taran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Taran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taran)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slipknot-could-someone-explain-this-fucking-shit/117072/23 "2002-07-02T23:31:22Z")
I was so sure that this thread was going to be about **pkbites** ’s trials and tribulations as a sailor. ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slipknot-could-someone-explain-this-fucking-shit/117072/24 "2002-07-02T23:50:09Z")
**pkbites** , if you don’t want him listening to it, there’s one simple thing you can do. Enjoy it. Go up to his room and say “Slipknot? Groovy! Mind if I join?” Then just start happily snapping your fingers and tapping your toes in time with the music. Be sincere. Wear a Slipknot T-shirt around the house. Have a Slipknot CD already waiting in your car stereo the next time you go driving together and start banging your head to the music. Basically do everything you can to make Slipknot look as uncool as your are, but always being loving and supportive of your son. At worst, if it backfires, you’ll have bonded. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slipknot-could-someone-explain-this-fucking-shit/117072/25 "2002-07-03T00:56:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sublight \* > **Basically do everything you can to make Slipknot look as uncool as your are** As **uncool** as me? But I’m Mr. Cool! The King of cool. Why, I have cool I haven’t even used yet! Look up the work cool in the dictionary and… Awwww, who am I kidding! I’m 42, it’s over.☹ ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slipknot-could-someone-explain-this-fucking-shit/117072/26 "2002-07-03T02:02:06Z")
> [@](#): > > Go up to his room and say “Slipknot? Groovy! Mind if I join?” Then just start happily snapping your fingers and tapping your toes in time with the music. Be sure to use the word “groovy” and snap your fingers; that way he’ll know you’re for real, 'cause all the kids do that these days. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slipknot-could-someone-explain-this-fucking-shit/117072/27 "2002-07-03T02:18:45Z")
I worry I’m getting to the age where I need to think more ‘slipdisk’ than ‘slipknot’. ---
**Author:** ![butter\_pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@butter\_pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butter_pie)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slipknot-could-someone-explain-this-fucking-shit/117072/28 "2002-07-03T03:29:13Z")
Hell, I’m only 22 and I hate that crap. Give the kid some Iron Maiden or Judas Priest or something. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Cynical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Mr.Cynical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Cynical)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slipknot-could-someone-explain-this-fucking-shit/117072/29 "2002-07-03T04:21:11Z")
My only exposure to Slipknot was when they played on Conan O Brien, or some such thing. I specifically recall thinking to myself, “Man, that lead shouter is way short.” Personally, I couldn’t distinguish a single note, let alone a chord. I think of them as performance art for the challenged. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slipknot-could-someone-explain-this-fucking-shit/117072/30 "2002-07-03T04:28:43Z")
Wait till you kid discovers **Coal Chamber** Makes Slipknot sound good. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slipknot-could-someone-explain-this-fucking-shit/117072/31 "2002-07-03T04:59:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jinwicked \* > \*\*Hell, I’m only 22 and I hate that crap.Give the kid some Iron Maiden or Judas Priest or something. \*\* Now heres a post I want to point out. First, the kid I’m talking about is 17, and his older brother is almost the same age as **jinwicked** , yet he’s always telling my youngest that the music he listens to is absolute crap. What does this mean? The generation gap can’t only be 4 years, can it? 'Maiden and Priest would have driven my parents to gouging their eyes with a salad fork, yet I’m perfectly content with it. What does young son say about it? “Lame. Wuss rock!” He says the same about Zepplin, Kiss, and AC/DC. Apparently if the lead singer isn’t growling into the mike like a rabid bear, is not “real” music.:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Sylkyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@Sylkyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylkyn)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slipknot-could-someone-explain-this-fucking-shit/117072/32 "2002-07-03T05:02:56Z")
Hey, I’m almost forty-two (will be in twenty-three days) and I have no idea who SlipKnot is. You’re a step ahead of me! My oldest son (aged twenty-one) listens to stuff (I refrained from using another word, so gimme a break) that makes my ears fold forward and slam shut. I pretend it’s “all good” (god, I hate that expression, but it fits here) and bob my head merrily when he turns my radio up to ear-splitting decibals in the car. I remember my mother shrieking at me to _turn down that sh_\*!!\* when I had Alice Cooper, David Bowie, The Tubes, Black Sabbath and whoever was on at the moment back when I was a kid. (Of course, I was an Elvis freak, too, so maybe that was a pacifier, in her case…) The only thing I won’t tolerate is what they call “rap”, and I mean that crap that spews obscenities into my car, and that’s mainly because I have much younger children. I really can’t abide that. My mama would have literally killed me if she’d heard _that_ bellowing from behind my closed doors. **pkbites** …in other words, welcome to the other side of the equation. Yeah, I hate a lot of the newer stuff. I also like a _little_ of the newer stuff. Not much, though. Even the old stuff gets on my nerves these days. Does the word “curmudgeon” hold any meaning for ya? If not, it should. Works for me. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slipknot-could-someone-explain-this-fucking-shit/117072/33 "2002-07-03T06:04:19Z")
Let me remind some of you that I have 2 kids that are a bit older than my 17 year old. NONE of their music ever bothered me. In fact, my oldest introduced me to Collective Soul, now my 3rd all time favorite band behind Wings and The Sweet. I mentioned SlipKnot because of their fucked up appearance. I have no Idea what the names of the actual bands are that are making the screaming, growling noises coming out of his stereo. I do on occassion get even with him, though. Whenever we go on vacation or any other road trip, I always play ooey gooey, sticky sweet “bubble gum” music from the late 60’s early 70’s. The Archies, Paper Lace, Joey Levine; that kind of stuff. He absolutely hates it!!!😃 ---
**Author:** ![Azargoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/aeb1de/32.png) [@Azargoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azargoth)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slipknot-could-someone-explain-this-fucking-shit/117072/34 "2002-07-03T06:07:43Z")
I can see it now the next N’Sync CD and tour they all come out in jumpsuits with masks and sweetly croon how they are going to kill their girlfriends, stuff their mouth with dirt, and put their bodies in bleach. Oh yes and they are also now going to refer to the fans as “maggots.”😕 ---
**Author:** ![Eternal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@Eternal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eternal)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slipknot-could-someone-explain-this-fucking-shit/117072/35 "2002-07-03T07:43:43Z")
Slipknot does create some interesting tunes. Their first album at least was full of good music. I think their second album is just more of the same. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slipknot-could-someone-explain-this-fucking-shit/117072/36 "2002-07-03T07:52:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Munch \* > \*\* > > I don’t see the difference between the two. I simply see Slipknot as the angry crowd’s answer to N’Sync. Coordinated head banging? Check. Rebel Slipknotter, cute Slipknotter, ugly Slipknotter, demon Slipknotter? Check, check, check, check. Demographically targetting highschoolers? Check. > > All the elements are there. They parallel each other nearly identically. If ever you hear some kid laud their praises and claim that their _such_ an alternative to The Backstreet Boys, point and laugh at them. \*\* Um, no. Slipknot writes songs. Love them or hate them, they don’t merely sing a bunch of bullshit written for them to suck in a stupid underage crowd. I don’t much care for their marketing either, but they do write their own music. Very well. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slipknot-could-someone-explain-this-fucking-shit/117072/37 "2002-07-03T07:53:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Reeder \* > \*\*Wait till you kid discovers **Coal Chamber** > > Makes Slipknot sound good. \*\* Oh, Christ. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slipknot-could-someone-explain-this-fucking-shit/117072/38 "2002-07-03T08:02:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Reeder \* > \*\*Wait till you kid discovers **Coal Chamber** > > Makes Slipknot sound good. \*\* :smack: ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slipknot-could-someone-explain-this-fucking-shit/117072/39 "2002-07-03T08:10:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Reeder \* > \*\*Wait till you kid discovers **Coal Chamber** Makes Slipknot sound good. \*\* Like I said, I only mentioned Slipknot because of their looks. (he **had** a poster of them up in his room. I ripped the mother fucker down!) Anyway, I went on KaZaA and listent to some Coal Chamber “songs”:rolleyes:. I think he’s already listening to this fucked up shit. And that’s what I’m talking about. What the mother fuck is that shit? Why would anyone want to listen to it? I was there, I didn’t see the doctor drop my kid on his head when he was born! And, most important, if I play 10 minutes of it to the judge, do you think he’ll let me off when I smack the shit outta my kid for driving me nuts with it?😛 ---
**Author:** ![Lockfist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/838e76/32.png) [@Lockfist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lockfist)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slipknot-could-someone-explain-this-fucking-shit/117072/40 "2002-07-03T08:17:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pkbites \* > \*\* > Now heres a post I want to point out. First, the kid I’m talking about is 17, and his older brother is almost the same age as **jinwicked** , yet he’s always telling my youngest that the music he listens to is absolute crap. What does this mean? The generation gap can’t only be 4 years, can it? > > 'Maiden and Priest would have driven my parents to gouging their eyes with a salad fork, yet I’m perfectly content with it. > What does young son say about it? “Lame. Wuss rock!” He says the same about Zepplin, Kiss, and AC/DC. Apparently if the lead singer isn’t growling into the mike like a rabid bear, is not “real” music.:rolleyes: \*\* **pkbites** - the issue you have identified is not so much a generation gap as a “taste gap”. You see in the world of Heavy Metal there are two main camps. **Slipnot** falls in the “nu-metal” category which is despised by fans of more “traditional” metal. In fact, you can find way more extreme music in the traditional metal community. **Slipnot** is derivative not only of **KISS** and **Alice Cooper** but of bands you might not have heard of such as **Napalm Death, Carcass, Emperor** etc. The fans of bands such as **Iron Maiden, Judas Priest,** and **Megadeth** cannot stand crap like **Slipnot, Limp Biskit, Korn** etc… The reason being that this “nu-metal” is simple and manufactured by record executives in cahoots with MTV. The music of nu-metal does not embrace the spirit of traditional metal. Furthermore, nu-metal fans dont even acknowledge or respect traditional metal. By the way **Iron Maiden** just released a live album and their latest studio album was just released a few years ago. They _still_ sell-out stadiums across the globe and have sold millions of records over the last 25 years… I don’t think we’ll be able to say the same about **Slipnot** in the year 2025. Up the Irons, Lockfist [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slipknot-could-someone-explain-this-fucking-shit/117072.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slipknot-could-someone-explain-this-fucking-shit/117072.md?page=3)