# Sloppy Joes

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sloppy-joes/931121>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** food-cooking\
**Created:** [January 21, 2021, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sloppy-joes/931121 "2021-01-21T17:35:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![FriendlyCurmudgeon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friendlycurmudgeon/32/5786_2.png) [@FriendlyCurmudgeon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriendlyCurmudgeon)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sloppy-joes/931121/101 "2021-01-22T22:43:29Z")

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Never tried it before but I have a can of it in the pantry. I’ve always used the seasoning packets. But from what I’ve learned in this thread. I’m going to take a pass not a fan of sweet meat sauces. Savoury and spicy all the way.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sloppy-joes/931121/102 "2021-01-23T01:24:59Z")

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Canned sauce (Hunt’s Manwich, Del Monte, whatever you got, or McCormick’s spice package plus tomato paste and some water) with vegetarian burger crumbles. We’re done. A gourmet treat that should take minimal prep time.

School cafeteria fare that deserves mention: the Pizzaburger. More sauce than meat; bright orange color, tastes nothing like pizza except perhaps in your imagination.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sloppy-joes/931121/103 "2021-01-23T02:31:54Z")

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Delaware is in an interesting place. Across from Cape May NJ and the DE Bay in the south and hemmed in by Maryland it is 3 whole counties. I can only speak to the southernmost county around Lewes and Rehoboth. Inland it’s still mostly corn, soy and chicken farms everywhere. Coastal DE is a gem.

That being said, you’ll find scrapple, crab (cakes) and some real local fried chicken (Kick’n Chicken for example) and local fish (rockfish/striped bass, flounder, drum) as what you’d find locally. The Grotto Pizza/Pizza Boli franchises make pizzas with sweeter sauces than I like.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sloppy-joes/931121/104 "2021-01-23T02:41:11Z")

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Made [Sloppy Joes](https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/219635/chef-johns-sloppy-joes/) for dinner, with air fryer French fries.

Living the life.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sloppy-joes/931121/105 "2021-01-23T12:26:22Z")

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Anyone else ever hear them referred to as _Untidy Josephs_?

Or did my dad make that up himself.

mmm

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sloppy-joes/931121/106 "2021-01-23T16:02:41Z")

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When we lived in the U.S., I always used the [McCormick Sloppy Joes seasoning mix](https://www.mccormick.com/spices-and-flavors/recipe-mixes/home-style-classics/sloppy-joes-seasoning-mix) on top of [Martin’s Potato Rolls](https://potatorolls.com/products/sandwich-potato-rolls/), neither of which are available locally.

Now I use [this](https://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/sloppy-joes-3) recipe, but normally with red or yellow bell pepper, because my husband finds green bell peppers to be too bitter. I serve them on pre-sliced bread, similar to Wonder or a whole wheat variant, depending on what I bought.

To finish up the bread I’ll make tuna melts.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sloppy-joes/931121/107 "2021-01-23T17:48:58Z")

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My mother used to call them that. How she came by it, I don’t know.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sloppy-joes/931121/108 "2021-01-23T19:22:29Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Made [Sloppy Joes](https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/219635/chef-johns-sloppy-joes/) for dinner, with air fryer French fries.

Ah, good ole’ Chef John. He never (well, rarely) fails. That consistency looks like it might work for me, as opposed to the soupier versions of my youth. It’s tempting…

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sloppy-joes/931121/109 "2021-01-23T19:53:23Z")

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It started out looking like soup, but simmering for 45 minutes it came out perfect. Just had a leftover for lunch

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**Author:** ![FriendlyCurmudgeon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friendlycurmudgeon/32/5786_2.png) [@FriendlyCurmudgeon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriendlyCurmudgeon)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sloppy-joes/931121/110 "2021-01-23T20:03:34Z")

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Yeah I love his recipes my niece loves making his [cheddar biscuits](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du90n1B-U6M) with me. His vids are relaxing as well.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sloppy-joes/931121/111 "2021-01-23T20:06:01Z")

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Next time add a corn starch or flour slurry if you want to thicken it up quicker. Raise the temp add the slurry then lower the temp and stir.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sloppy-joes/931121/112 "2021-01-23T20:09:34Z")

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> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> Anyone else ever hear them referred to as _Untidy Josephs_ ?

Since this thread started, I’ve been trying, and failing, to find a solid cite, but I could swear that Mr. French, the very proper English “gentleman’s gentleman” on the 1960s TV sitcom _Family Affair_, called them either “Untidy Josephs” or “Untidy Samuels.”

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sloppy-joes/931121/113 "2021-01-23T20:19:45Z")

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> [@FriendlyCurmudgeon](#):
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> Next time add a corn starch or flour slurry if you want to thicken it up quicker.

On that subject, I’ve gotten some arrowroot to use as a thickening agent, advised to by an Indian Food Truck friend of mine. He suggested arrowroot because it is “healthy for the bowels” (he ascribes ulterior motives to many ingredients).

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sloppy-joes/931121/114 "2021-01-23T20:47:53Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> He suggested arrowroot because it is “healthy for the bowels” (he ascribes ulterior motives to many ingredients).

Or posterior motives.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sloppy-joes/931121/115 "2021-01-23T21:09:40Z")

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As I said earlier (post 98), that’s what my aunt used to call them.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sloppy-joes/931121/116 "2021-01-23T21:17:26Z")

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Ah, so you did. I obviously missed that.

mmm

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sloppy-joes/931121/117 "2021-01-24T04:13:17Z")

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sloppy-joes/931121/118 "2021-01-24T04:28:45Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> What do we prefer for buns?

Martin’s potato rolls.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sloppy-joes/931121/119 "2021-01-24T12:55:10Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> What do we prefer for buns?

What are popularly known as [Sheboygan hard rolls](https://johnstonsbakery.com/sheboygan-hard-rolls/), aka Semmel rolls.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sloppy-joes/931121/120 "2021-01-24T13:45:02Z")

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Baguettes are good. You need something crusty to contrast with the softness of the Joe, and to keep your hands clean.

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