# Smallville 10/13 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 14, 2005, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smallville-10-13/326251 "2005-10-14T17:35:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Taran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Taran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taran)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smallville-10-13/326251/21 "2005-10-15T21:18:41Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > So who’s going to have to die? I’d second the vote for the teleporter girl. Clark loves her, plus she’s the only one who “fully understands” what it’s like to be Clark Kent. Season four spoiler:She marries Clark and then dies, never to be mentioned again > [@](#): > > Could also be Chloe. She’s not originally from the comics anyway, right? So she’s got to go at some point. I hope not; Chloe is the only reason I still watch, now that Lex’s morality switch is set to “evil”. I think Papa Kent is going to bite it. He’s less crucial to the plot than Chloe, and Jor-El seems to hate him for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smallville-10-13/326251/22 "2005-10-15T21:29:17Z")
> [@Love Rhombus](#): > > I think they’re writing Chloe into the comics now, actually. Really? First I’ve heard of it. Not even sure what she would do. Lana has the smokin’ old flame from Smallville area covered. Oracle has the hawt haxxor area covered. > [@](#): > > My theory is that Lana’s mutant power is surviving head wounds and whining about her parents. BWA HA HA! > [@Taran](#): > > I think Papa Kent is going to bite it. He’s less crucial to the plot than Chloe, and Jor-El seems to hate him for some reason. I think he’s dead in the comics too so that could work. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smallville-10-13/326251/23 "2005-10-15T22:11:26Z")
> [@Taran](#): > > Season four spoiler:She marries Clark and then dies, never to be mentioned again Oh, OK. Well, since I don’t think they’ll off anyone from the comics, and Chloe is apparently in, or will be in the comics, who does that leave? It’d be lame if they kill someone, then resurrect them so that “technically” they died. It’d be even lamer if they kill the dog. But who else is left, that Clark is both close to and loves? > [@Wolfian](#): > > I think he’s dead in the comics too so that could work. No, no, no! Please not Jonathan! Unfortunately, I can kinda see it. Depends on which comic history you go with. I guess in one, he & Martha are both dead. In another, they’re alive. They did give him heart problems, and he gets beaten up every dang episode. Plus, helping his dad keep the farm going is what’s holding Clark in Smallville. I could almost see something like, his dad is dying and that’s the life/price Clark will have to eventually pay, but it won’t happen until the end of the series, at which point his father’s death will be a big part of Clark’s accepting his destiny and embracing the Superman role. If Lex ends up having having something to do with Jonathan’s death, it would also cement the future Lex/Superman hate. ---
**Author:** ![HoldenCaulfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/22d042/32.png) [@HoldenCaulfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoldenCaulfield)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2005, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smallville-10-13/326251/24 "2005-10-17T06:27:24Z")
I really don’t want to see any of the characters go. Even Lana, as whiny as she is, is very nice to look at. I hope they do the lame thing and opt-out somehow. Kill someone and then resurrect them; that’s the way to do it. Or bring Pete back and kill him; I don’t miss him at all, and I won’t miss him more if he dies. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2005, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smallville-10-13/326251/25 "2005-10-17T12:46:21Z")
Nope, Pete’s alive in the comics. He was the president for about five minutes. Then again he is scheduled to make an appearance this season. **levdrakon** , I could have sworn that in one history both Kents were dead and in the other Martha was a widower… Wait a sec, Clark spoke to his “father” in **OMAC**. Nevermind… ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2005, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smallville-10-13/326251/26 "2005-10-17T13:49:42Z")
Side comments: The Kents being alive was one of the few brilliant changes Byrne made. It really humanized Clark Kent. I do love how they used Martha as the ‘cool, kind of crazy’ mother, too. She wound up being the kind of person who _would_ make that suit for Clark. Aquaman, like the Sub-Mariner, date back to WWII. I recently, as in about two minutes ago, realized that their existance probably has a lot to do with the convoy ships in WWII. It was a very dangerous thing, and a sort of ‘guardian angel’ type would have been very welcome at that point. Sort of like how everything is about computers today. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2005, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smallville-10-13/326251/27 "2005-10-17T14:10:48Z")
I have to be honest, I’d rather see Lana go than just about anybody else, though I’d be cool with a Pete guest spot/merciful death. It’s just about got to be Jonathan or Chloe, though. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2005, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smallville-10-13/326251/28 "2005-10-17T14:44:09Z")
I think **Xixox** nailed it. The person to die is going to be the lurve-child of Clark and Lana. It’s sad but that’s exactly what I would expect them to do. sex=bad=lots of unintended consequences. I’m surprised Chloe didn’t come back from Metropolis distended from the spawn of Jimmy. Man that creature would have been funky. Probably would have come out wearing a bow tie and richocheting off the wall of the weird. ---
**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2005, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smallville-10-13/326251/29 "2005-10-18T00:28:16Z")
I didn’t bother watching Season 4, largely because a change in cable scheduling meant it wasn’t shown in this area (Enterprise either). Found I didn’t miss either one. Another change made Season 5 available, and time had dimmed my memory of how very excruciating the Clark-Lana circle of trust-and-secrets had become. Plus I now have a Tivo (hello 21st century!), so I decided to record a few episodes and see what I thought. Last week’s show, the 5 minutes immediately after Clark & Lana got caught trying to sneak her out of the house, this was amusing enough to make all those horribly similar scenes (‘Clark, can’t you tell me what’s wrong?’ ‘Nothing, Lana.’) fade into that past, ne’er to return. It was _funny_! And then the end of the show brings us back to the same ol’ grind. ‘You’re going to tell her, right, Clark?’ ‘I can’t take that risk.’ Uh, why, exactly? Whatever, I don’t even wanna know at this point. Geek that I am, I _will_ still be checking out next week’s Aquaman episode. And then there’s the Brainiac angle… ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2005, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smallville-10-13/326251/30 "2005-10-18T00:32:59Z")
Well, purely speculative on my part, but did Jor-El actually use the word “die”? Or did he say “lose” and “sacrifice”? Because, if it’s the latter, then Lex turning to evil would mean that Clark loses a friend… without having to kill anyone off. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2005, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smallville-10-13/326251/31 "2005-10-18T04:27:03Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > I think **Xixox** nailed it. The person to die is going to be the lurve-child of Clark and Lana. It’s sad but that’s exactly what I would expect them to do. sex=bad=lots of unintended consequences. I’m surprised Chloe didn’t come back from Metropolis distended from the spawn of Jimmy. Man that creature would have been funky. Probably would have come out wearing a bow tie and richocheting off the wall of the weird. _Takes a shot._ ---
**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2005, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smallville-10-13/326251/32 "2005-10-18T17:51:44Z")
Is it wrong that when Jor-el made his whole “someone you love will die” (or “be lost,” because **C K Dexter Haven** makes a good point), that I half expected Clark to look away, think for a second, then look up and say, “Pete. Man, I really loved Pete.” (I know, I know, I’m a bastard. You’ve gotta admit that the writers didn’t seem to want to do much with his character, though.) ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2005, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smallville-10-13/326251/33 "2005-10-18T18:36:48Z")
> [@KKBattousai](#): > > Is it wrong that when Jor-el made his whole “someone you love will die” (or “be lost,” because **C K Dexter Haven** makes a good point), that I half expected Clark to look away, think for a second, then look up and say, “Pete. Man, I really loved Pete.” > > (I know, I know, I’m a bastard. You’ve gotta admit that the writers didn’t seem to want to do much with his character, though.) If Clark were smart, he’d say ‘But I only love YOU, Daddy!’ _snicker_ ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2005, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smallville-10-13/326251/34 "2005-10-18T18:46:38Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#): > > If Clark were smart, he’d say ‘But I only love YOU, Daddy!’ > > _snicker_ That image will haunt me for the rest of the day. I’ll get you for that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smallville-10-13/326251.md?page=1)