# Smapti is Pitted **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 21, 2014, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907 "2014-05-21T08:14:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/401 "2014-08-28T02:44:38Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > you forgot hateful Hateful? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/402 "2014-08-28T03:33:27Z")
Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/403 "2014-08-28T14:39:25Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I’m not the one who introduced the word “lunged” to the conversation. Er, next time, bring _relevant_ facts. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/404 "2014-08-28T14:42:06Z")
> [@Osiris\_the\_1st](#): > > The motivating factor of Smapti’s opinions seems to be fear. Dude, unclench a little bit. You live in what is most likely the safest time in human history in one of the safest nations on the face of the planet. And getting safer all the time, as the main threat (overreaching government) is increasingly hemmed in by power-to-the-people privacy technologies. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/405 "2014-08-28T14:45:57Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you. Fear is the path to the Derp Side. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/406 "2014-08-28T14:51:58Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > enables Republican terrorists to seize control of our government and push their omnicidal agenda. If you really want to derail the Republican Party, you need to do a quick 180 and push the Democrats to start straightening up and putting some serious effort into curtailing the government’s Big-Brother and race-relations abuses. Otherwise, [somebody you probably won’t like](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/08/14/his-op-ed-on-ferguson-shows-why-rand-paul-is-the-most-interesting-voice-in-the-gop-right-now/) will continue to pick up the issues and run with them… maybe all the way to the White House. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/407 "2014-08-28T15:01:24Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Hateful? very much so - here is just ONE example > [@](#): > > People who assault police officers are asking to be killed. Whether they’re mentally ill or not is of no consequence at that point. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/408 "2014-08-28T16:32:34Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > very much so - here is just ONE example Well, if the world inside your head was full of people trying to steal your kidneys, you’d be hateful too. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/409 "2014-08-28T21:55:28Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > And getting safer all the time, as the main threat (overreaching government) is increasingly hemmed in by power-to-the-people privacy technologies. “Overreaching government” is an oxymoron. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/410 "2014-08-28T21:57:25Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > If you really want to derail the Republican Party, you need to do a quick 180 and push the Democrats to start straightening up and putting some serious effort into curtailing the government’s Big-Brother and race-relations abuses. Otherwise, [somebody you probably won’t like](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/08/14/his-op-ed-on-ferguson-shows-why-rand-paul-is-the-most-interesting-voice-in-the-gop-right-now/) will continue to pick up the issues and run with them… maybe all the way to the White House. If the American people decide that electing a segregationist will solve their race problems, it won’t be my fault for supporting the party with the far better record. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/411 "2014-08-28T21:58:29Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > very much so - here is just ONE example What’s hateful about that? Is there some amount of love I ought to be expressing for criminals? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/412 "2014-08-28T22:33:30Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > “Overreaching government” is an oxymoron. This statement is an emission from the sort of fuel that burns to generate oxymorons. > [@Smapti](#): > > it won’t be my fault for supporting the party with the far better record. No, no, no; the reason it will be your fault is that you are acting as an enabler, relieving the pressure upon the party to align itself with the pro-privacy and pro-equality views of the public. Please try to keep up with the class. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/413 "2014-08-29T00:31:32Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > No, no, no; the reason it will be your fault is that you are acting as an enabler, relieving the pressure upon the party to align itself with the pro-privacy and pro-equality views of the public. Please try to keep up with the class. The Democratic party is ‘anti-equality’? Since when? How would an avowed segregationist be more pro-equality? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/414 "2014-08-29T11:49:25Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The Democratic party is ‘anti-equality’? Since when? How would an avowed segregationist be more pro-equality? This is in the context of the Democratic Party being much too soft on your sort of “the police are always right” nonsense. PTtKUWtC. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/415 "2014-09-09T13:55:32Z")
[And the hits keep on coming…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17675071&postcount=2326) ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/416 "2014-09-09T14:05:38Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you. Hey, now. Say what you will about **Smapti** , but he is already plenty down with the sickness. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/417 "2014-09-09T14:37:06Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > [And the hits keep on coming…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17675071&postcount=2326) I don’t want to believe he’s not trolling at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/418 "2014-09-09T15:03:26Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > I don’t want to believe he’s not trolling at this point. I don’t think he is trolling. I truly believe he is a fascist. In his world, the ends always justify the means and citizens are of no importance to the state except maybe as fuel to burn. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/419 "2014-09-09T16:33:17Z")
> [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](#): > > I don’t think he is trolling. I truly believe he is a fascist. In his world, the ends always justify the means and citizens are of no importance to the state except maybe as fuel to burn. The good of the citizenry is the reason the state exists and the reason that it must possess the authority to deal with those that have no respect for the social contract and the expectations of human behavior in a civilized society. When the state is too afraid of its own citizens to stop them from openly breaking the law, the result is anarchy. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/420 "2014-09-09T16:37:03Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > When the state is too afraid of its own citizens to stop them from openly breaking the law, the result is anarchy. Now we’re getting somewhere. Let’s start with one specific example of this phenomenon, and see how it might be addressed. What particular steps need to be to reinforce the state’s courage so that James Clapper can be clapped into the hoosegow for perjury? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907.md?page=22)