# Smapti is Pitted **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 21, 2014, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907 "2014-05-21T08:14:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 55
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1081 "2014-12-09T23:18:25Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > For one, I’m not going to see it because I’m not going to be opening this thread again after this post. Does that mean I can call certain folks cunts without fear of censure? ---
**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1082 "2014-12-09T23:55:15Z")
Idle Thoughts knows nothing, sees nothing. Miller, OTOH, knows all, sees all and will stick his jack booted foot up your ass. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1083 "2014-12-10T00:26:46Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Got it – according to **Smapti** , [Hosea Williams](http://www.theawl.com/2011/05/two-horses-two-races-the-civil-rights-movement-goes-to-the-kentucky-derby), the [Southern Christian Leadership Conference](http://www.lokashakti.org/encyclopedia/groups/144-southern-christian-leadership-conference), and [Martin Luther King Jr.](http://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/malu/hrs/hrs2a.htm) were terrorists. Heck, according to **Smapti** , anyone who sends a sternly worded letter to the editor is a terrorist. > [@Smapti](#): > > Those who are blocking roads and freeways, starting fires, jumping on cars, throwing things at police, and _sending lists of “demands” to the media_? Terrorists. (emphasis added) ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1084 "2014-12-10T00:45:52Z")
> [@Cyros](#): > > Idle Thoughts knows nothing, sees nothing. Miller, OTOH, knows all, sees all and will stick his jack booted foot up your ass. Right you are. I moddled my muds, er, muddled my mods. Makes me [del]mod[/del] mad. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1085 "2014-12-10T05:05:40Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Someone can commit a crime and still turn around their life and be a “hard-working father”. True, but Garner had not done so. At the time of his demise, he had three outstanding charges against him in Criminal Court, and was out on bail. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1086 "2014-12-10T05:11:47Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > True, but Garner had not done so. At the time of his demise, he had three outstanding charges against him in Criminal Court, and was out on bail. And also, he was black. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1087 "2014-12-10T10:27:54Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > True, but Garner had not done so. At the time of his demise, he had three outstanding charges against him in Criminal Court, and was out on bail. And being charged means one is guilty, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1088 "2014-12-10T10:33:52Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > And being charged means one is guilty, of course. I thought that rule only applied to cops. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1089 "2014-12-10T12:17:06Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I thought that rule only applied to cops. No, guy who thinks MLK Jr. was a terrorist. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1090 "2014-12-10T13:12:59Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I thought that rule only applied to cops. I thought you didn’t think _any_ rules applied to cops. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1091 "2014-12-10T14:34:20Z")
[Terrorist](http://imgkid.com/tiananmen-square-tank-man.shtml). Here is [another terrorist](http://beautifultrouble.org/case/the-salt-march/). Blocking traffic. Really? Smapti, I don’t know what is wrong with you and your moral compass (if you even have one), but with your ideology you align yourself with the worst regimes in history. You do know that, don’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1092 "2014-12-10T14:47:40Z")
I guess Chris Christie is one of the worst terrorists around, due to the Ft. Lee bridge incident. I thought it was horrible, but I didn’t think to cast it as terrorism. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1093 "2014-12-10T16:43:22Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > No, guy who thinks MLK Jr. was a terrorist. If he used the threat of violence or civil unrest to strongarm the government into meeting his demands, then he was a terrorist. Terrorism doesn’t stop being terrorism just because you agree with the goals of its perpetrator (which I do). ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1094 "2014-12-10T16:46:01Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > If he used the threat of violence or civil unrest to strongarm the government into meeting his demands, then he was a terrorist. Terrorism doesn’t stop being terrorism just because you agree with the goals of its perpetrator (which I do). That’s not what you said earlier – are you changing your view? Are any protesters who disrupt traffic or send out lists of “demands” (like “we demand to be treated equally”) terrorists, or not? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1095 "2014-12-10T16:48:37Z")
> [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](#): > > [Terrorist](http://imgkid.com/tiananmen-square-tank-man.shtml). > Here is [another terrorist](http://beautifultrouble.org/case/the-salt-march/). > > Blocking traffic. Really? [Blocking](https://ronewzakcleveland.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/protest-shoreway.jpg?w=300) [traffic.](http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/img/photos/2014/10/22/5e/3e/protest_block-1.jpg) [Really.](http://tribktla.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/san-diego-5-freeway-protest.jpg) Causing massive disruption, personal and economic, to the lives of thousands of innocents in order to subvert the democratic process and intimidate the government into acceding to an ideological agenda is the very _definition_ of terrorism. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1096 "2014-12-10T16:52:24Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > [Blocking](https://ronewzakcleveland.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/protest-shoreway.jpg?w=300) [traffic.](http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/img/photos/2014/10/22/5e/3e/protest_block-1.jpg) > > [Really.](http://tribktla.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/san-diego-5-freeway-protest.jpg) > > Causing massive disruption, personal and economic, to the lives of thousands of innocents in order to subvert the democratic process and intimidate the government into acceding to an ideological agenda is the very _definition_ of terrorism. So you’re changing your view, then. One would think you’d have learned by now to be specific, as often as you need to clarify or change your statements on various topics. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1097 "2014-12-10T16:58:04Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Those who are blocking roads and freeways, starting fires, jumping on cars, throwing things at police, and sending lists of “demands” to the media? Terrorists. > [@Smapti](#): > > [Blocking](https://ronewzakcleveland.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/protest-shoreway.jpg?w=300) [traffic.](http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/img/photos/2014/10/22/5e/3e/protest_block-1.jpg) > > [Really.](http://tribktla.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/san-diego-5-freeway-protest.jpg) > > Causing massive disruption, personal and economic, to the lives of thousands of innocents in order to subvert the democratic process and intimidate the government into acceding to an ideological agenda is the very _definition_ of terrorism. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > So you’re changing your view, then. Where did my view change? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1098 "2014-12-10T17:00:12Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Where did my view change? You said any Civil Rights protester who disrupts traffic is a terrorist. Do you still feel this way? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1099 "2014-12-10T17:05:46Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Causing massive disruption, personal and economic, to the lives of thousands of innocents in order to subvert the democratic process and intimidate the government into acceding to an ideological agenda is the very _definition_ of terrorism. So, the government shutdowns we’ve been getting every few years are terrorist acts, then. Glad you could clear that up. (I wonder if Boehner’s orange face coloring is waterboarding-safe…) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1100 "2014-12-10T17:13:24Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > So, the government shutdowns we’ve been getting every few years are terrorist acts, then. Glad you could clear that up. (I wonder if Boehner’s orange face coloring is waterboarding-safe…) **Smapti** probably agrees – IIRC, he’s advocated that the President should arrest and prosecute Republicans in Congress. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907.md?page=54) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907.md?page=56)