# Smapti is Pitted

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 21, 2014, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907 "2014-05-21T08:14:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 71

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2015, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1401 "2015-01-03T18:19:26Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Try this:  
> _People, please be failing to respond to **Smapti** , it is not contributing anything of value to the thread. Ignore it and it will go away._
> 
> Put that in a handy place (e.g., in Shortcuts on your mobile device) and just fight shit with shit. Every time someone replies to **Smapti** , post that, until they stop.

Please to be not telling me who I should or shouldn’t respond to. Is there something wrong with your mouse’s scroll wheel, that you can’t go past a post without reading it?

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2015, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1402 "2015-01-03T18:22:11Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I really wish you would stop making false accusations about me. I am not a troll. I have never posted an opinion here that I did not believe. I have never gone into a thread thinking “I want to derail this thread and make it all about me”; I go in thinking “I have an opinion on this topic that I wish to share”. If people question me on that belief, of course I’m going to respond to it.

We can still call you a coward, a fascist, and an idiot, though, can’t we?

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2015, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1403 "2015-01-03T18:42:20Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> This board is the biggest significant social outlet I have in my life. Why would I set out to have people I consider friends call me the worst human being they know?

When one person tells you you’re drunk, ignore him. When two people tell you you’re drunk, stop drinking. When three people tell you you’re drunk, it’s time to lie down.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2015, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1404 "2015-01-03T18:59:57Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> We can still call you a coward, a fascist, and an idiot, though, can’t we?

Those are matters of opinion and you are welcome to them. Calling me a troll is a statement of fact and it is not a true one.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2015, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1405 "2015-01-03T19:08:30Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> In what way?

Start [here](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_gender_distinction). In brief, “sex” is “the biological makeup of an individual’s reproductive anatomy or secondary sex characteristics” and “gender” is the “social roles based on the sex of the person (culturally learned) or personal identification of one’s own gender based on an internal awareness”.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2015, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1406 "2015-01-03T19:18:43Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I don’t think teenagers _should_ be allowed to kill themselves. And yet, they do. Suicide is always the wrong choice, but it is always a choice (otherwise it’s not suicide, it’s homicide or misadventure).

Was suicide the wrong choice when slaves did it to avoid any further misery and abuse at the hands of their masters? Or when girls do it now to avoid being sold into slavery or married off to ISIS warlords?

I know it’s hard for you to comprehend, but some things are worse than death.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2015, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1407 "2015-01-03T19:18:45Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> When one person tells you you’re drunk, ignore him. When two people tell you you’re drunk, stop drinking. When three people tell you you’re drunk, it’s time to lie down.

Oh, and **Smapti** - when I’m _agreeing_ with **Hentor** and **iiandyiiii** there’s one of two possibilities - either you are hilariously wrong, or it is the prophesied end times, when the conservative will lie down with the liberal, police officers will dance in the streets with minorities, and deep-fried squid will rain from the skies\*.

\*I didn’t pay that much attention at Sunday School.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2015, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1408 "2015-01-03T19:24:07Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> Was suicide the wrong choice when slaves did it to avoid any further misery and abuse at the hands of their masters? Or when girls do it now to avoid being sold into slavery or married off to ISIS warlords?

Yes.

> [@](#):
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> I know it’s hard for you to comprehend, but some things are worse than death.

I can’t think of any possible state of affairs which I’d rather die than endure.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2015, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1409 "2015-01-03T19:25:11Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> Oh, and **Smapti** - when I’m _agreeing_ with **Hentor** and **iiandyiiii** there’s one of two possibilities - either you are hilariously wrong, or it is the prophesied end times, when the conservative will lie down with the liberal, police officers will dance in the streets with minorities, and deep-fried squid will rain from the skies\*.
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> \*I didn’t pay that much attention at Sunday School.

Fried calamari, you say? Sign me up.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2015, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1410 "2015-01-03T19:26:03Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Yes.
> 
> I can’t think of any possible state of affairs which I’d rather die than endure.

All people are not you. Other people can think of such circumstances, and other people have experienced such circumstances. Your experiences and imagination are not the experiences and imagination of every human.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2015, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1411 "2015-01-03T19:41:49Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I really wish you would stop making false accusations about me. I am not a troll.

In this case, calling you a troll is giving you the benefit of the doubt. The other option, that you actually believe the revolting things you post, is stomach-churning.

> [@](#):
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> This board is the biggest significant social outlet I have in my life. Why would I set out to have people I consider friends call me the worst human being they know?

I’m unsurprised to learn that you don’t have any friends in real life. I’m pretty sure you don’t have any friends on this message board, either. You know why? Because you are a horrible, horrible person.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2015, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1412 "2015-01-03T19:55:53Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I’m unsurprised to learn that you don’t have any friends in real life…

I have friends. And I have a girlfriend. This is where I do most of my socializing because my schedule doesn’t permit me to have an active social life.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1413 "2015-01-03T20:04:20Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I have friends. And I have a girlfriend. This is where I do most of my socializing because my schedule doesn’t permit me to have an active social life.

Is your girlfriend Canadian?

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2015, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1414 "2015-01-03T20:21:43Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I have friends. And I have a girlfriend.

Which, of course, is irrelevant.

> [@](#):
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> Luis Alfredo Garavito Cubillos, aka “La Bestia” (“The Beast”) or “Tribilín” (American Spanish translation of Disney’s “Goofy”) (born 25 January 1957 in Génova, Quindío, Colombia) is a Colombian rapist and serial killer. In 1999, he admitted to the rape and murder of 140 young boys. The number of his victims, based on the locations of skeletons listed on maps that Garavito drew in prison, could eventually exceed 300. He has been described by local media as “the world’s worst serial killer” because of the high number of victims.
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> . . . .
> 
> In several cities, he lived together with women who were the same age or older than Garavito and who sometimes had children. in fact, Garavito seemed to be a caring social father since his girl friends never complained about him or stated any form of abuse concerning themselves or their children. They even mentioned that he enjoyed friendly play with his social children. In at least one case, Garavito continuously sent money back to one of his girlfriends during his travels.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2015, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1415 "2015-01-03T20:36:37Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Why would I set out to have people I consider friends

The feeling ain’t mutual.

> [@](#):
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> call me the worst human being they know?

Then stop acting like it.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2015, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1416 "2015-01-04T00:12:23Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> Smapti must be a delight at parties. “Smapti, meet Bob and Patty.”
> 
> Smapti: “What are your real names?”
> 
> Bob: “Those are our real names.”
> 
> Smapti: “So, your parents named you Bob and Patty.”
> 
> Patty: “No. Robert and Patricia, but we very much prefer Patty and Bob.”
> 
> Smapti: “You’ll need to show me some governmental order then, _Patricia_. I will not be made a liar. You too, _Robert_.”
> 
> Patty: “Fuck off, you freak.”

I love you and want to follow you into combat.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2015, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1417 "2015-01-04T00:14:33Z")

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I don’t think Smapti is a troll. I think he’s got good credibility as merely crazy, stubborn, and dense.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2015, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1418 "2015-01-04T00:34:53Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I’ll tell you my real name if you really want to call me by it (and if it’s not against board rules for me to do so, I can’t recall.)

Well, nobody has told \*\*\*me \*\*\*otherwise.

I had a teacher in third grade who refused to use nicknames. I was Richard, even though nobody in my family calls me that. My cousin Nicki had her the year before me, and the teacher called her Naomi because that’s the name on her official records.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2015, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1419 "2015-01-04T01:34:24Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Yes.
> 
> I can’t think of any possible state of affairs which I’d rather die than endure.

Seriously? You’d rather spend a miserable existence being enslaved, beaten, raped, tortured?  
How could you possibly prefer that?

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2015, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1420 "2015-01-04T05:21:44Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I can’t think of any possible state of affairs which I’d rather die than endure.

Yeah, see…neither can I.

Thing is, though…

That doesn’t make other people wrong, when they encounter one that they would.

It doesn’t even mean that I, or you, won’t actually prefer to die than to endure some sort of misery we haven’t thought of, or overestimated our ability to endure.

Pretending that either of those cases is true is absurd, and rather obscene.

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