# Smapti is Pitted

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 21, 2014, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907 "2014-05-21T08:14:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1561 "2015-03-19T05:51:29Z")

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Meh. He’s okay in my book. I disagree with his views, but I don’t have to share a house with him.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1562 "2015-03-19T16:31:09Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> Which you offer no counter argument too.

If you were actually reading the other posts in the thread, you’d know that he hasn’t been on good behavior for two months.

Do you require each person to explain the same thing to you?

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1563 "2015-03-19T16:38:49Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> If you were actually reading the other posts in the thread, you’d know that he hasn’t been on good behavior for two months.
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> Do you require each person to explain the same thing to you?

He didn’t provide any links to **Sampti** recent behaviour. Someone who’s been here for over ten years knows to do that. And let’s not kid ourselves. He wasn’t referring to anything new. He was reading a two month old thread and bumped it to make an offhand comment.  
Had he made that offhand comment two months ago when the thread was still relevant, nobody would have thought anything of it.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1564 "2015-03-19T16:41:19Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> Had he made that offhand comment two months ago when the thread was still relevant, nobody would have thought anything of it.

As far as I’m concerned, nobody thinks anything of it now.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1565 "2015-03-19T16:45:59Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> He didn’t provide any links to **Sampti** recent behaviour. Someone who’s been here for over ten years knows to do that. And let’s not kid ourselves. He wasn’t referring to anything new. He was reading a two month old thread and bumped it …

How wedded are you to this narrative?

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1566 "2015-03-19T16:57:53Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> As far as I’m concerned, nobody thinks anything of it now.

again, I wasn’t going to say anything until somebody else said something first.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1567 "2015-03-19T17:06:19Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> again, I wasn’t going to say anything until somebody else said something first.

It’s weird that you keep repeating this, as if you think it makes you look better.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1568 "2015-03-19T17:27:09Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> It’s weird that you keep repeating this, as if you think it makes you look better.

It’s weird that you think I’m the only one who had a WTF reaction to **Acsenray** ’s post.

I had to repeat myself because apparently you’re not reading all the posts. Or else you wouldn’t have made the moronic comment that I’m the only one that thought anything of **Acsenray** ’s post.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1569 "2015-03-19T17:28:08Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> It’s weird that you think I’m the only one who had a WTF reaction to **Acsenray** ’s post.
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> I had to repeat myself because apparently you’re not reading all the posts. Or else you wouldn’t have made the moronic comment that I’m the only one that thought anything of **Acsenray** post.

I think you need to reread what I actually said.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1570 "2015-03-19T17:37:03Z")

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Now that **Smapti** ’s current asshattery has been brought to light, I’m formally rescinding my WTF. I’d prefer that this thread not turn into the **Acsenray** show.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1571 "2015-03-19T17:38:10Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> I think you need to reread what I actually said.

I know exactly what what said: ‘As far as I’m concerned, nobody thinks anything of it now.’

Which I took to mean, you think I’m the only one who thought anything of **Acsenray** ’s post.

Would you be so kind to tell me how I’m misinterpreting that?

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1572 "2015-03-19T17:39:41Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Now that **Smapti** ’s current asshattery has been brought to light, I’m formally rescinding my WTF. I’d prefer that this thread not turn into the **Acsenray** show.

good point. I’m done.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1573 "2015-04-04T16:58:16Z")

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Oh, now [THIS](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=699353&page=3) is rich: Smapti is now protesting about how organ donation is handled. Apparently, it should be a lottery system, because it’s somehow wrong to “condemn people to die, based on certain criteria”.

> [@Family says DeKalb teen being denied heart transplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-dekalb-teen-being-denied-heart-transplant/666139/149):
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> And those laws are wrong.

This from a guy, who’s such a miserable, low-life coward, he claims he wouldn’t even risk his own life to save his own child from drowning, that it was wrong to hide Jews from the Nazis during the Holocaust (because they were disobeying the law), now claims a LAW is wrong? Oh, what a sickening bastard.

The more I read from him, the more he disgusts me.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1574 "2015-04-04T17:07:35Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> This from a guy, who’s such a miserable, low-life coward, he claims he wouldn’t even risk his own life to save his own child from drowning, that it was wrong to hide Jews from the Nazis during the Holocaust (because they were disobeying the law), now claims a LAW is wrong? Oh, what a sickening bastard.

There is no contradiction in saying that a law is wrong and saying that you would obey the law anyway.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1575 "2015-04-04T17:10:15Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> There is no contradiction in saying that a law is wrong and saying that you would obey the law anyway.

In the past you’ve been unwilling to say that laws are wrong, including Nazi laws that targeted Jews.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1576 "2015-04-04T17:13:10Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> In the past you’ve been unwilling to say that laws are wrong, including Nazi laws that targeted Jews.

I don’t recall being _asked_ if they were wrong - I was asked if I would follow them.

For the record, I believe that laws targeting Jews are wrong.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1577 "2015-04-04T18:03:51Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I don’t recall being _asked_ if they were wrong - I was asked if I would follow them.
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> For the record, I believe that laws targeting Jews are wrong.

I asked you specifically if various things or laws were wrong, and you said you were unable to answer – the law was the only way to determine right and wrong.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1578 "2015-04-04T18:06:53Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I asked you specifically if various things or laws were wrong, and you said you were unable to answer – the law was the only way to determine right and wrong.

In the sense that there is no objective right and wrong, yes.

I can tell you what I _believe_ is right and wrong, but my beliefs don’t have any objective value.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1579 "2015-04-04T18:11:13Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> In the sense that there is no objective right and wrong, yes.
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> I can tell you what I _believe_ is right and wrong, but my beliefs don’t have any objective value.

At the time, you weren’t even willing to tell me your beliefs about whether they were right or wrong.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1580 "2019-03-11T12:48:13Z")

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Bumping due to **Smapti** spreading his batshit insanity about how it is always wrong to break the law into another thread: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21530562#post21530562](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21530562#post21530562)

IIRC, he hasn’t been this nuts (at least on this board) in a few years.

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