# Smapti is Pitted

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 21, 2014, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907 "2014-05-21T08:14:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1641 "2019-09-14T11:29:56Z")

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Yep. You’re just a fucking idiot.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1642 "2019-09-16T03:58:29Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> According to the article you yourself cited;
> 
> No, because they failed.
> 
> To obey his master.

_puke_  
You remind me of Jeff Sessions using bible verses to justify separating families at the border, claiming that upholding the law is the moral thing to do, consequences be damned:

> **[Why is Jeff Sessions quoting Romans 13 and why is the bible verse so often...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/06/16/jeff-sessions-bible-romans-13-trump-immigration-policy/707749002/)**
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> Attorney General Jeff Sessions defended the Trump administration’s policy of separating immigrant children from their families at the border this week by citing a passage from the Apostle Paul’s epistle to the Romans.

He did not know or did not care that forcibly taking children from one group and placing them into the hands of another group is a part of genocide:

> **[Forcible Transfer | Encyclopedia.com](https://www.encyclopedia.com/international/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/forcible-transfer)**
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> Forcible TransferThe forcible transfer of children of a protected group to another group is the fifth punishable act of genocide. It originally formed part of the definition of cultural
> genocide. The definition was contained in a draft by the UN...

Fuck Sessions and his twisted reasoning–and you and yours.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1643 "2019-09-16T04:08:06Z")

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I’m starting to think he’s just trolling us, at this point. Either that or he’s just completely batshit.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1644 "2024-02-20T04:56:27Z")

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So, in four years he’s gone from “slaves must obey”  
to “genocide is OK if you wear a white hat”  
(Israel in Gaza MPSIMS thread)

What an absolute nutjob. He does Hamas’ work for them.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1645 "2024-02-20T05:35:26Z")

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Oh, wow. There was already a pit thread? Good to know, because I was thinking of starting one for his staunch defense of _totally not genocide_ in Gaza.

I fucking hate to see dumb fucking sociopaths pretending that utilitarianism justifies the mass killing of civilians, but he’s all over it.

> [@MrDibble](#):
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> So, in four years he’s gone from “slaves must obey”  
> to “genocide is OK if you wear a white hat”

At least he’s consistent on this point:

> [@Grumman](#):
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> Smapti has never met a war crime he didn’t like.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1646 "2024-02-20T17:53:19Z")

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[Moderating]  
I’ve edit the title of this older thread to bring it into line with current rules about insults in Pit thread titles.  
[/Moderating]

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1647 "2024-02-20T18:04:02Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> The rules of the pit forbid me from truly expressing my hatred for this sniveling, spineless piece of shit, so I shall attempt to work around that.

> [@Grumman](#):
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> In short, he is a poor effigy of a human being, an invertebrate that somehow learned to mash a keyboard to create a crude semblance of human conversation, without once engaging in that practice he so despises: thought.

Um … … actually, I think you did an excellent job. 🤣

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2024, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1648 "2024-05-08T08:54:05Z")

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Smapti continues to be a brainless tool in the Gaza threads. If you’re reading, Smapti, you’ve turned into the old Smapti on this issue - no nuance, and unwilling to criticize the conduct of your chosen side at all; the new Smapti should recognize that the Gazan people do not deserve this atrocious collective punishment they’ve been suffering for months, and the IDF has shown itself to be an incompetent and highly flawed organization.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2024, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1649 "2024-05-08T15:11:46Z")

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The “Kill all Palestinians because people on a message board had the gall to criticize me when the only innocent deaths I get upset about is non-Palestinians” Smapti? Say it ain’t so!

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2024, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1650 "2024-05-09T00:01:16Z")

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> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> Say it ain’t so!

Alas, it ain.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2024, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1651 "2024-05-09T02:00:21Z")

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There’s something ironic about being accused of lacking nuance by a crowd who seem unable to process any worldview more complicated than “ISRAEL BAD” and think that wanting to help your neighbors means you’re racist.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2024, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1652 "2024-05-09T02:17:22Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> …think that wanting to help your neighbors means you’re racist.

As you know, this is not anything anyone actually said.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2024, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1653 "2024-05-09T02:52:08Z")

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There’s something ironic when no one has argued such a simplistic view, yet you seem to think you’re exhibiting any nuance at all.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2024, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1654 "2024-05-09T02:55:57Z")

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> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> no one has argued such a simplistic view

Really? Because I’ve been told as recently as a few posts ago that I’m not allowed to believe that Israel’s war is justified and that bombing aid workers is unacceptable, because everyone knows that aid workers can only be white, and if I’m only upset about white people dying then I must be a racist.

Either I’m required to believe thar Israel is 100% in the wrong in every single interaction it has with Palestinians or I’m “pro-genocide”, genocide having been defined at this point as “when one side is better at war than the other”.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2024, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1655 "2024-05-09T03:19:22Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Either I’m required to believe thar Israel is 100% in the wrong in every single interaction it has with Palestinians or I’m “pro-genocide”, genocide having been defined at this point as “when one side is better at war than the other”.

Still not a thing that’s been said.

> [@Smapti](#):
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> I’m only upset about white people dying then I must be a racist.

Weird, because I’m pretty sure it was you arguing laws of war don’t matter when it was Palestinians dying, but immediately changed your tune when it was other people, refusing to provide any alternate explanation.

Oh, and your current “Arabs aren’t helping Gaza, why should we?” bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2024, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1656 "2024-05-09T03:30:27Z")

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> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> “Arabs aren’t helping Gaza, why should we?”

I never said that we shouldn’t be helping Gaza. I said that the Arab states have an obligation to help Gaza that they aren’t living up to and people put words in my mouth to twist that into “you should only help your own race” despite my never once mentioning race as a factor.

The US is providing aid to Gazans caught in the crossfire, and that’s a good thing.

> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> Still not a thing that’s been said.

Ahem.

> [@Discussion for the Israel-Hamas War: A thread in the Pit](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/322):
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> So Israel “accidentally” blew up more aid workers. Including U.S. citizens. World Central Kitchen was trying to feed the starving in the middle of a man made famine. This is shameful, disgusting, on and on.

> [@Discussion for the Israel-Hamas War: A thread in the Pit](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/324):
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> Alright. I give. If this is what it looks like, then Israel has gone too far.

> [@Discussion for the Israel-Hamas War: A thread in the Pit](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/325):
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> When it was deliberately sniping Palestinian grannies and 5 year-olds, that was “just what happens in war”
> 
> Foreign aid workers, and suddenly it’s “too far”.
> 
> What’s the difference, I wonder…?

> [@Discussion for the Israel-Hamas War: A thread in the Pit](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/326):
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> Well, the people the IDF targeted weren’t, you know…those people.

> [@Discussion for the Israel-Hamas War: A thread in the Pit](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/341):
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> “They’re killing tens of thousands of Palestinian children!”  
> You: Tough shit, bombs happen. War crimes aren’t even a real thing, so it doesn’t matter.
> 
> “They killed seven white people!”  
> You: Israel has crossed a line!
> 
> And you wonder why people think you’re a racist.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2024, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1657 "2024-05-09T05:56:09Z")

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> [@Discussion for the Israel-Hamas War: A thread in the Pit](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/325):
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> Ahem.
> 
> […]
> 
> > [@Discussion for the Israel-Hamas War: A thread in the Pit](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/325):
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> > When it was deliberately sniping Palestinian grannies and 5 year-olds, that was “just what happens in war”
> > 
> > Foreign aid workers, and suddenly it’s “too far”.
> > 
> > What’s the difference, I wonder…?

Why quote just that, and not the one where I said:

> [@Discussion for the Israel-Hamas War: A thread in the Pit](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/401):
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> That wasn’t calling you a _racist_. Despite what @Miller said, the foreign aid workers _weren’t_ all White.
> 
> But they weren’t _Palestinians_. Who, you’ve made it abundantly clear, you consider lesser human beings.

I know, it doesn’t serve the “poor, persecuted Smapti” lie. Man, you can lick boots, but you can’t stand up in them, that’s for sure.

And just to remind everyone: Miller was _responding_ to you, _after_ you said:

> [@Discussion for the Israel-Hamas War: A thread in the Pit](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/332):
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> Y’all’s response was “fuck you you racist, not good enough”.

That he was mistaken about the workers doesn’t mean he called you a racist first. Like I said:

> [@Discussion for the Israel-Hamas War: A thread in the Pit](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/397):
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> the first person in this thread to call Smapti racist was Smapti.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2024, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1658 "2024-05-09T06:07:03Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Why quote just that, and not the one where I said

Because that statement it demonstrably false as evidenced by the multiple posters I quoted above. I am not the one who brought race into this and I’m STILL not bringing race into it no matter how much you want “Racist Smapti hates brown people and that’s why he supports Israel” to be the narrative.

I wasn’t upset because the aid workers were white, I was upset because the aid workers were AID WORKERS.

But I see I forgot the lesson I learned in that thread, which is that NOTHING short of the streets running red with Jewish blood will satisfy your lot.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2024, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1659 "2024-05-09T06:42:14Z")

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Okay, let me try again:

Please accept that 99.8% of ceasefire advocates care just as much about Israeli and Jewish lives as you do. I promise that their vision of Gaza absolutely positively does _NOT_ include an entire country of 9.5+ million people sitting around passively while Hamas bombs them. A one sided peace isn’t peace at all, and I swear to God that every serious person discussing this issue who wants a ceasefire absolutely knows and internalizes this. There is no apathy for Israeli lives, and a ceasefire can preserve their well being in addition to that of Palestinians. I hope you can believe this sometime.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2024, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1660 "2024-05-09T06:47:43Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Because that statement it demonstrably false

You quoted my own words as evidence, but didn’t quote the post where I explicitly disavowed what you said it said.  
The only thing demonstrably false there is you.

> [@Smapti](#):
>
> as evidenced by the multiple posters I quoted above

The “multiple posters” are irrelevant, since it’s just my post I’m referencing in the second post. You quote the first post, but not the second. And it was only my post that you responded to before you said:

> [@Discussion for the Israel-Hamas War: A thread in the Pit](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-for-the-israel-hamas-war-a-thread-in-the-pit/992653/332):
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> Y’all’s response was “fuck you you racist, not good enough”.

> [@Smapti](#):
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> I am not the one who brought race into this

Yes, you are.

> [@Smapti](#):
>
> I’m STILL not bringing race into it

Yes, you are.

> [@Smapti](#):
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> no matter how much you want “Racist Smapti hates brown people and that’s why he supports Israel” to be the narrative.

No, it’s clear you specifically hate Palestinians. They are brown people, but that’s not why you hate them.

You hate them because the current fascists whose boots you’re licking this year hate them. Anything to please the Boss. Last time it was the police and their innocent Black victims, next time, who knows?

I suspect it’s a fetish by this point.

> [@Smapti](#):
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> I was upset because the aid workers were AID WORKERS.

What about all the _Palestinian_ AID WORKERS killed by the IOF up to then, motherfucker?

> [@Smapti](#):
>
> But I see I forgot the lesson I learned in that thread, which is that NOTHING short of the streets running red with Jewish blood will satisfy your lot.

Hey, Smapti, you sure you’ve got enough wood for that cross?

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