# Smapti is Pitted **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 21, 2014, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907 "2014-05-21T08:14:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 97
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1921 "2025-12-20T09:23:37Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Which, per your cite, resulted in multiple people going to prison and facing criminal charges. …there are still hundreds of people being tortured at Sde Teiman. Thousands held without charge throughout detention centres in Israel, subject to beatings, humiliation and torture. That in a single particular case that only came to light because it got anonymously leaked by the former top-lawyer who presumably was too scared to release it officially does not mean the torture regime is over. A reminder: they even beat, threatened, kicked, humiliated and abused _Greta Thunberg_. [https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/they-kicked-me-while-the-flag-touched-my-face-greta-thunberg-details-5-days-of-abuse-in-israeli-custody/3717954](https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/they-kicked-me-while-the-flag-touched-my-face-greta-thunberg-details-5-days-of-abuse-in-israeli-custody/3717954) If they can do that to an international citizen with a high profile like Thunberg just imagine what they are doing to the thousands of Palestinian detainees every single day. > [@Smapti](#): > > Israel holds people criminally responsible when they cross the line. In response to the treatment of Thunberg, Ben Gvir, the Minister of National Security said this: > [@](#): > > Ben Gvir said during the course of the day that he was **“proud” of the way the Israel Prison Service (IPS) was treating the activists,** and that he himself had instructed that they **be subject to the same, severe conditions as received by Palestinian security prisoners.** No, they don’t hold people criminally responsible when they cross the line. Instead, they often celebrate it. > [@Smapti](#): > > On this week’s episode of _Quantum Leap_, Banquet\_Bear has leapt into the body of Benjamin Netenyahu. It is October 8th, 2023. If we are going to play hypotheticals, then let’s jump back decades earlier, and I will end the occupation of the Palestinian territories and end the apartheid. Because I’ve answered your question. What I personally would have done is irrelevant to everybody in the world except you. And it’s relevant to you because you literally have no other argument. All you’ve got is a ridiculous hypothetical that I’ve already answered. Israel can do what they like within the constraints of the Geneva conventions and international humanitarian law. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1922 "2025-12-20T09:28:46Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > A reminder: they even beat, threatened, kicked, humiliated and abused _Greta Thunberg_. Which she provoked and which she deserved. If she wants to be the next Rachel Corrie, then I say let her. > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Ben Gvir Ben Gvir can also kiss my ass. > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > If we are going to play hypotheticals, then let’s jump back decades earlier, and I will end the occupation of the Palestinian territories and end the apartheid. Sorry, we’re saving that episode for next season. It’s 10/8. What are your orders? > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > What I personally would have done is irrelevant to everybody in the world except you. I’m the one you’re trying to convince, aren’t I? And you’re unwilling to do that. Because you can’t answer the question. You’re not arguing in good faith. You don’t want Israel to coexist peacefully with the Palestinians. You want the population of Israel to link arms and march into the ocean. > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Israel can do what they like within the constraints of the Geneva conventions and international humanitarian law. Such as…? ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1923 "2025-12-20T09:37:48Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Which she provoked and which she deserved. …for the record: Smapti endorses beating, threatening, kicking, humiliating and abusing prisoners. > [@Smapti](#): > > If she wants to be the next Rachel Corrie, then I say let her. Rachel Corrie was guilty of _nothing_. She didn’t deserve to die. But its telling who Smapti believe is deserving of human rights and who deserves to get beaten or killed. > [@Smapti](#): > > Ben Gvir can also kiss my ass. Why? You obviously share his views on how to treat prisoners. You _endorse_ them. > [@Smapti](#): > > I’m the one you’re trying to convince, aren’t I? Fuck no. You are being pitted. I’m not trying to convince you of anything. You are spreading disinformation. I’m countering it. That’s all. > [@Smapti](#): > > Because you can’t answer the question. I answered your question multiple times. > [@Smapti](#): > > You’re not arguing in good faith. I’m arguing in good faith. > [@Smapti](#): > > You don’t want Israel to coexist peacefully with the Palestinians. I want apartheid to end. I want the occupation to end. I want the genocide to stop. Those are my red lines. > [@Smapti](#): > > You want the population of Israel to link arms and march into the ocean. I don’t want this at all. > [@Smapti](#): > > Such as…? Such as, for one example, not deliberately targeting hospitals. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1924 "2025-12-20T09:44:02Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Smapti endorses beating, threatening, kicking, humiliating and abusing prisoners. It’s what she wanted. Who am I to deny it to her? > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Rachel Corrie was guilty of _nothing_. She didn’t deserve to die. Rachel Corrie was an ignorant stooge who got herself killed in the name of people who would have killed her themselves if she’d lived under the kind of society they wanted. I make a habit of flipping off her memorial in downtown Olympia every time I pass by it. > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Why? Because he’s a lunatic whose agenda is counterproductive. > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > I want apartheid to end. I want the occupation to end. I want the genocide to stop. Then you already have what you desire. > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Such as, for one example, not deliberately targeting hospitals. Then I assume you hold Hamas responsible for using hospitals as staging areas for their attempts to murder Jews. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1925 "2025-12-20T09:50:49Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > It’s what she wanted. Who am I to deny it to her? …no, it isn’t what she wanted. What a ridiculous thing to say. > [@Smapti](#): > > Rachel Corrie was an ignorant stooge who got herself killed in the name of people who would have killed her themselves if she’d lived under the kind of society they wanted. I make a habit of flipping off her memorial in downtown Olympia every time I pass by it. What an utterly deranged thing to do to a memorial. > [@Smapti](#): > > Because he’s a lunatic whose agenda is counterproductive. But you endorse his agenda. That makes YOU a lunatic. > [@Smapti](#): > > Then you already have what you desire. Israel are physically occupying half of Gaza right now. They control everything that comes into Gaza and everything that comes out. There is no right of return. You are incorrect. > [@Smapti](#): > > Then I assume you hold Hamas responsible for using hospitals as staging areas for their attempts to murder Jews. I assume you’ve got evidence for this assertion of yours? Can we start with say…the Turkish-Palestinian Friendship Hospital? It was occupied by Israel and illegally turned into an IDF military base. Then when they left it…they demolished it. Why did they demolish the Turkish-Palestinian Friendship Hospital? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1926 "2025-12-20T09:56:33Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > No, I’m claiming it was the worst and that it’s what the word was coined to describe No. Wrong. Lemkin coined the term _before_ the Final Solution was even decided on, and very specifically his original conception didn’t even require _any_ killing ([Cite](https://www.elgaronline.com/edcollchap/book/9781800379343/book-part-9781800379343-9.xml)). ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1927 "2025-12-20T09:57:02Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …no, it isn’t what she wanted. So you’re suggesting that she ran a blockade with a token amount of contraband because she earnestly thought it would benefit the greater good? Bullshit. Her intent was for Israel to detain her so she could cry “Help! Help! I’m being repressed!” > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > But you endorse his agenda. No, I don’t. > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Why did they demolish the Turkish-Palestinian Friendship Hospital? Because Hamas had turned it into a staging area for their attempts to murder Jews. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1928 "2025-12-20T10:01:13Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Which they are being paid to do by Iran. Again this completely unsubstantiated bullshit rumour, **paid for by Israel**. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1929 "2025-12-20T10:02:47Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > So you’re suggesting that she ran a blockade with a token amount of contraband because she earnestly thought it would benefit the greater good? …I’m suggesting she didn’t want to get beaten, threatened, kicked, humiliated and abused. And even if she did: a regime that allowed this is evil and needs to be bought down. The very last thing we should be doing is endorsing it. > No, I don’t. Ben Gvir endorses beating, threatening, kicking, humiliating and abusing prisoners. Smapti endorses beating, threatening, kicking, humiliating and abusing prisoners. Yes: you clearly do endorse his agenda. > Because Hamas had turned it into a staging area for their attempts to murder Jews. Cite please. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1930 "2025-12-20T10:04:36Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > unsubstantiated [https://www.jns.org/did-iran-and-qatar-pay-anc-to-prosecute-israel-at-the-icj/](https://www.jns.org/did-iran-and-qatar-pay-anc-to-prosecute-israel-at-the-icj/) > Shortly after the Oct. 7, 2023, Hamas-led onslaught on the northwestern Negev, South Africa released a statement inferring that Israel was responsible for the massacre. The former minister of international relations, Naledi Pandor, spoke to the then-leader of Hamas, Ismail Haniyeh, reiterating South Africa’s solidarity with the Palestinians. > > Shortly after that, Pandor visited Tehran. On Dec. 29, 2023, South Africa filed a formal application against Israel at the International Court of Justice… > > “Curiously, in early January 2024, S.A. President Cyril Ramaphosa announced that the ANC had mysteriously managed to stabilize its finances, pay off its staggering debt, and recover from the verge of bankruptcy, without providing any specifics on how this had occurred. > > “Crucially, this money appeared in the ANC’s coffers without explanation, mere days after the South African government brought its case against Israel at the ICJ,” the report notes. > **[SA\_Report\_Final\_121124-1.pdf](https://isgap.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/SA_Report_Final_121124-1.pdf)** > > 3.08 MB > Further avenues of questionable funding connected to the ANC may also be linked to Russian sources. Financial information in the ANC’s 2022-2023 political funding disclosure report shows that the party declared a total of R32 million ($6.4 million) in the third quarter as a funding boost to settle part of its multimillion-rand tax debt and fund its national conference.45 It received a donation of R15 million ($797,535) from the Batho Batho Trust, a company run by Patrice Motsepe, who is ANC President Cyril Ramaphosa’s brother-in-law and a significant ANC donor.46 It also provided R15 million in 2021.47 A second donation of R15 million was received from United Manganese of Kalahari (UMK),48 which was paid to the Johannesburg Expo Centre, the venue that hosted the ANC’s national conference.49 In Q1 2020-2021, UMK also donated R7.5 million ($398,756) to the ANC, becoming the largest single donor during that quarter.50 Overall, UMK’s R30 million ($1.5 million) in donations to the ANC over the past two years accounts for over 27 percent of the party’s disclosed funding.51 This is noteworthy because UMK, a top ANC funder, is partially owned by Viktor Vekselberg, a sanctioned Russian oligarch with close ties to Vladimir Putin. Vekselberg owned 49 percent of UMK, with the remaining shares of the mining group belonging to an ANC funding front, Chancellor House, and an ANC-linked community group. The narrative that “Israel is committing genocide in Gaza” is a psyop perpetrated by Hamas’ backers in Qatar and Iran, and boosted by Russian propaganda farms, for the purpose of splitting the American left in 2024 and getting Donald Trump reelected so that he would stop the US government from interfering in the Ukranian genocide. Congrats on being a stooge for Putin. This is hurting your country too, BTW. Trump thinks you’re committing “white genocide” and is inflicting unjustified sanctions on you, and you’ve helped make it possible. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1931 "2025-12-20T10:09:35Z")
Said the stooge for Bibi… ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1932 "2025-12-20T10:10:09Z")
Bibi can kiss my ass. He’s a would-be tyrant and he belongs in prison. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1933 "2025-12-20T10:10:19Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The narrative that “Israel is committing genocide in Gaza” is a psyop perpetrated by Hamas’ backers in Qatar and Iran, and boosted by Russian propaganda farms, for the purpose of splitting the American left in 2024 and getting Donald Trump reelected so that he would stop the US government from interfering in the Ukranian genocide. …conspiracy theory. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1934 "2025-12-20T10:17:12Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Bibi can kiss my ass. So it’s to be a 69 of ass-kissing, then, since you clearly have your own tongue so far past his sphincters it’s touching tonsils. > [@Smapti](#): > > He’s a would-be tyrant and he belongs in prison. Exactly the sort you’ve always loved, bootlicker. _Plus ça change_… “Meet the new boots, same as the old boots.” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1935 "2025-12-20T10:22:04Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > conspiracy theory. And demonstrably true. > **[How Russia uses the Israel-Gaza Crisis in its disinformation campaign against...](https://icct.nl/publication/how-russia-uses-israel-gaza-crisis-its-disinformation-campaign-against-west)** > > On 29 October a large crowd took over the Makhachkala Airport in the Republic of Dagestan, a region with a diminishing minority Jewish population of about 300 - 400 families. > **[Russia is trying to exploit America's divisions over the war in Gaza](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/russia-trying-exploit-americas-divisions-war-gaza-rcna149759)** > > The effort includes artificial intelligence, fake social media accounts and a spike in state-sponsored Russian propaganda. > **[Russian Influence Campaign Against Israel: Strategic and Cognitive...](https://www.inss.org.il/publication/russia-disinformation/)** > > For at least two years, Russia has been running a global disinformation campaign that has targeted Ukrainian, French, German, and Israeli audiences. The campaign targeting Israelis mimics similar campaigns directed at European states and Ukraine in... [https://www.npr.org/2024/06/06/g-s1-2965/russia-propaganda-deepfakes-sham-websites-social-media-ukraine](https://www.npr.org/2024/06/06/g-s1-2965/russia-propaganda-deepfakes-sham-websites-social-media-ukraine) > **[Putin hijacks Israel-Gaza war to fuel tensions in the West](https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-vladimir-putin-hijacks-israel-gaza-war-to-fuel-tension-in-the-west/)** > > Kremlin-backed propaganda has fused the Middle East and Ukraine wars together online. Real-world attacks, in France and elsewhere, are starting to follow. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1936 "2025-12-20T10:59:49Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > And demonstrably true. …Russian propaganda hasn’t “shaped the narrative.” It isn’t demonstrably true. People think Israel is committing genocide in Gaza because that is what the _evidence overwhelmingly says_. Amnesty International, HRW, the South African case at the ICJ, the UN, they all have laid out the case for genocide. They weren’t fooled by Russian propaganda. One of your cites is Politico, which holds this editorial stance: > [@](#): > > The chief executive of the Berlin-based company, Mathias Döpfner, has long said that support for Israel is [“a German duty.”](https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/the-good-murdoch) > > [He told The Journal](https://www.wsj.com/articles/politicos-new-owner-plans-to-grow-staff-launch-paywall-11634325249) on Friday that this sentiment – and others such as support for a united Europe and a free-market economy – “are like a constitution, they apply to every employee of our company.” Employees who disagreed “should not work for Axel Springer, very clearly.” > **[New Politico owner says will enforce pro-Israel policy](https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2021-10-17/ty-article/new-politico-owner-says-will-enforce-pro-israel-policy/0000017f-f763-d47e-a37f-ff7f63b90000)** > > Axel Springer's CEO Makes Clear That Tenets Such as Support for Israel's Right to Exist 'Apply to Every Employee of Our Company,' Even if They Won't Have to Pledge This in Writing The reality is when it comes to propaganda, disinformation and narrative, Israel [spends millions of dollars](https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/article-879369) on that. But I’m not whining about Isreali propaganda. Because I’ve got facts on my side. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1937 "2025-12-20T11:11:15Z")
You have not remotely proven this. Show some inaccuracies in Wikipedia articles of you want anyone else to believe this. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1938 "2025-12-20T11:13:41Z")
And yet somehow you trust everything he says about Gaza, and about the IDF, and every decision he’s made since Oct 7th… ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1939 "2025-12-20T11:46:08Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > They weren’t fooled by Russian propaganda. Yes, they were. > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > The chief executive of the Berlin-based company, Mathias Döpfner, has long said that support for Israel is [“a German duty.”](https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/the-good-murdoch) Support for Israel is a _human_ duty. The people of Israel have been a role model for human civilization for 3,000 years. They have advanced the ideals of rule of law, supporting the poor as a moral obligation, equal rights and respect for all people of all nations, the pursuit of knowledge and wisdom for its own sake, mercy for those who deserve worse than what they get, opposition to those who hoard wealth and refuse to help the needy, and the pursuit of a better world in which all will be free and safe and prosperous. They have maintained these ideals despite countless attempts to exterminate them because they refused to assimilate into base societies that did not respect these values. They survived the most evil act in human history and finally achieved that which millions of Jews had prayed for every day for 2,000 years - the restoration of the people to their ancestral homeland. You would deny them this respite. Because you are an antisemite. Am Yisrael chai, motherfucker. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > And yet somehow you trust everything he says I have no idea what he says. I don’t listen to him. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1940 "2025-12-20T11:49:39Z")
You’re a delusional weirdo with no real understanding of the lessons of the Holocaust. You don’t love Israel or Judaism, any more than Trumpers love America. You love some fantastical construct in your mind with little to do with the real world. Someday you’ll be ashamed of your complete lack of human decency when it comes to the deaths of so many thousands of children. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907.md?page=96) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907.md?page=98)