# Smapti is Pitted **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 21, 2014, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907 "2014-05-21T08:14:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 1064
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907/1064 "2014-12-09T15:05:39Z")
Pittings like this present me with a quandary. I agree with **Smapti** ’s side on the OP: The fact that the CIA was secretly exploiting vaccination programs to combat terrorism does not detract from the value of those programs, and they could have continued to serve two purposes until the whistle-blower committed treason. Blame can be shared of course, but it seems twisted not to find major fault with the whistle blower who took it upon himself _both_ to cause thousands of children to go unvaccinated _and_ advanced the terrorist cause. But to support **Smapti** on one issue, doesn’t mean I support all of his positions: :eek: > [@Why wasn't the police officer who killed Eric Garner indicted?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wasnt-the-police-officer-who-killed-eric-garner-indicted/706271/404): > > No, we can’t, because as far as I can tell he did nothing wrong aside from _maybe_ temporarily applying a submission hold that is administratively prohibited. > > Pantaleo didn’t kill Eric Garner. Eric Garner killed Eric Garner. It’s stupid to focus on whether or not Pantaleo violated a specific regulation or not. He used stupidly excessive force in a stupid arrest. He killed a hard-working father whose crime was that America’s system made it difficult for him to feed his family. And to blame the victim, Eric Garner, for his own death goes beyond stupidity to some sort of insanity. It’s vicious comments like this one that make rational good-spirited Americans want to vomit whenever a right-winger opens its mouth. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smapti-is-pitted/688907)._