Smapti is Pitted

I dont know about the other charges, but can he be called a coward if he is willing to support an unpopular opinion single-handedly?

Can you be a coward and support unpopular opinions single-handedly?

If online, fuck yeah.

Let’s see: voicing an opinion on an anonymous internet message board versus stating that he would not risk his own life to save the life of his own child.

Yes. Extreme pussy. Coward of almost unheard of magnitude.

And that if he had been alive in Nazi Germany, he would not have hesitated to turn in any Jews he knew of that were hiding somewhere. Because, you know, it’s wrong to break the law, and he didn’t want to get killed himself.

That’s seriously psychotic.

Ok, but enough about yourself. Isn’t this thread about Smapti?

I am not convinced that there is a worthwhile distinction. Kind of like saying “he absconds with people’s stuff, but he is not a thief”. I mean, I have some pretty extreme opinions, but I do not feel compelled to flog them relentlessly here. Engaging in what is effectively trollesque behavior is not different from being a genuine troll if the end result is the same.

Wow, I missed that thread.

Please note Smapti according to what he has shared does not have a child, and does not want a child.

So sure it is easy to say you’d do that when you don’t even have a kid, if he had a kid and still said that yea then I’d join in the dogpile.

I used to say I hated kids, now I spend most of my free time playing with my son. Funny how reality is different than hypotheticals.:slight_smile:

So did I.

Just when I think the mindset can’t get any worse, it does.

Smapti,
Wow. 29 pages on what a douchebag you are. I’m not familiar with your earlier douchebaggery, but I read your posts on gender. You are so wrong.

My 12-year-old daughter started referring to black people as, “niggers.” Her mother and I corrected her, but she persisted. In fact, she became persistent, consistent, and insistent. It really caused discord in our home so we took her to a doctor. One exchange:

Wife and I: “She keeps saying: nigger, porch-monkey, jungle-bunny, spear-chucker, etc.”
Dr: “Yeah, she’s a racist.”
Us: “We don’t like it.”
Dr: “Oooooh, I hope she doesn’t internalize your disapproval.”
Us:“We hope she outgrows it.”
Dr:“Wow. You two really are ignorant. Your daughter is a racist. It’s who she is. She didn’t choose it. It chose her.”
Us: “Well, we want it to stop.”
Dr: “So you want to tell her she’s wrong about a central aspect of her identity?”
Us:“Yes.”
Dr:“I foresee serious psychology harm, including depression and suicidal ideation.”
Us:“But it’s already causing trouble at school. She has few friends, only other racists, and the teachers don’t really know how to respond to her. They’re compassionate, but not really supportive.”
Dr:“Yes, our schools are hotbeds of ignorance and intolerance. It’s really quite shocking. They don’t realize that this isn’t a fad or a phase: THIS IS WHO SHE IS. Denying its existence or accuracy only makes it worse.”
Us:“But we don’t even think she understands what race or racism are.”
Dr:"So, more ignorance from you, huh? She understands it as a 12-year-old understands it. Her feelings are perfectly valid, AND ACCURATE. "
Us:“Huh? What does that even mean? So what does she think racism is?”
Dr:“It’s really not relevant. Her definition, whatever it is, is accurate for her. That is enough.”
Us:“There’s another thing. She gave us a list of offensive nouns she wants US to refer to black people as. We flat out refused. This nonsense has gone too far.”
Dr:"That is a mistake. Do you want her to kill herself? How hard is it to toss out an occasional, “nigger,” or “spook,” or “spade”? Are you really going to risk your daughter’s life over some insignificant NOUNS?
Us:“But she’s so young, can’t we just tell her she can be as racist as she wants when she’s an adult?”
Dr:“Transitioning to racism at 18 is much more difficult than if it starts now. I’m afraid the clock is ticking.”
Us:“OK, so let’s suppose we go along with this. What happens when she’s 15 and realizes her folly? Isn’t she going to be irritated we ever supported this nonsense?”
Dr:“Folly? Nonsense? Who cares? What’s wrong with being a racist for 3 years? I suggest you stop worrying about what everyone else might think and support your daughter. We have children transition back and forth between racist and non-racist all the time. You can’t help how ignorant outsiders think, so I suggest you stop worrying about it.”

So, Smapti, I was convinced that I knew better than the professionals, continued saying, “black,” and, “African-American” when referring to people, and largely ignored her growing racism. Other than that, we supported her in every way. Frankly, often at home, it wasn’t an issue. We would change the channel when the President came on (discretion being the better part of valor, and all that).

Well, Smapti, she killed herself. Are you happy? I have the blood of my own daughter on my hands because I didn’t support her racism! Would it have been so hard to agree with her? Damn my stupid Christian Church with all their nonsense about racial equality! Oh, why oh why did I listen to that ignorant Minister and his antiquated superstition?!

You may think it’s illogical or coercive, but it’s science!!! Do what a 12-year-old requests or you’re her killer! This whole intolerant society is full of murderers! I love my dead, racist daughter!

I just wanted to add my voice to the growing number who disagree with you.

From the typical reaction of racists, it is almost like they want to kill themselves over not being able to use the n-word.

ETA: Oh, and: Analogy fail. But you did use lots of words, so it was a pretty spectacular fail.

What analogy?

Wow. I only have one leg and this is lamer than me.

Wow. It takes work to wade into a thread about Smapti and mark yourself as a serious contender for “worst person present”. Major props, Grotonian. Oh, and in case anyone missed the memo: this guy claims to be a social studies teacher. Double points for being a bigot in a position to hurt children.

While the N word has staying power, the only place I’ve heard the rest is in really old media like 70s and before, or real old people.

Your daughter either had odd taste in media, or hung out with old racists.

(yes I know it is a joke)

I am not familiar with the kind of thing I’m seeing.

You have attempted to polish the “intolerance of tolerance” turd that stupid-ass conservatives have become fond of lately.

We should teach children to not harm others and to not harbor irrational hatred of others. Racism harms others.

Expressing your gender preference harms nobody.

ETA: And your response, denying your attempted analogy, is cowardly and fucking stupid.

Competition?

For whatever reason, possibly drugs or mental illness, lately every time I see analogy I think of it as “anal oogee” mentally. I’m afraid I’m going to say it out loud one day.

I’m not sure what an anal oogee is BTW, not sure I want to speculate.

Lighten up, Francis, this is the Pit. Standards of literary and intellectual rigor are lower here. If I thought my post had any logical or academic merit, I’d have posted it elsewhere, like maybe where people who were actually reading about the topic would have seen it.

Moreover, its “support” of Smapti is pretty spurious: he never argued anything remotely connected to my post. The phrase that comes to mind is, “Damning with faint praise.” I hope you weren’t whooshed.

I am curious, though, about what you think marks me as a bigot. Care to elaborate?